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Chris Lambertz wrote:
Anguish wrote:
The paizo.com front page. It shows "January February March". It didn't take much for figure out why, but those dates are without context. I am aware of the 2010+ style of "obfuscate the interface" but don't approve of it. There really should be a (even small) header saying something like "Products released in the month of" above/below/beside the months.
There was some wavering internally about this one. I'm leaning towards it having a header and possibly a call to action button underneath. What do you think of a title like "Newest Paizo Releases"?

Very much like it. Succinct, accurate, informative. Good++.

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Also, I'd suggest "Digital Content" should probably say "Digital Content Downloads". I'm been an IT guy for a quarter century and even I wouldn't be looking for my digital content in a menu called digital content.
Part of this naming convention speaks to some down-the-road changes to how we show you items related to your account. We provide not only downloads, but software keys, e-tickets, and redemption codes. Knowing this, does this change your opinion on its name, or would you name it something different?

I actually guessed that was the thought behind it. You guys don't do things without reason. That said, yes, I'd still recommend a change. Even "Downloads/Digital Assets" (or "contents"). Anyone not familiar with the site's peculiarities isn't going to intuitively find their downloads if it's labelled "Digital Content". Anyone else looking for other assets might. But get this... if it said only "Downloads", both newbie visitor would find their content. The problem is that in common parlance, "Downloads" conveys the message of "stuff I want to GET from here" while "Digital Content" could easily just be some links to vlogs or something. Put another way, "download" is a verb, which I will look for when I'm looking to DO/GET/ACTIVATE/ACQUIRE something, and "Digital Content" is a noun, where I might expect to just peruse more "stuff". Nitpicky, but I think accessibility = less frustration = more sales.

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Something weird. I primarily use Firefox (64-bit, Windows). I have an add-on, "Forecastfox". It's normally a tiny widget overlaid in the upper right corner, on top of whatever content I am viewing. So if I'm at Slashdot.org, there's this tiny box in the upper right, almost never interfering with their pages, but it always can if a site were to have something all the way up there. (Sometimes a site might have a Logoff button or something, but this is so small it's rare there's a total overlap.) Anyway, on any paizo.com site, Forecastfox is freaking out and producing a horizontal grey bar the usual height, but literally the entire right-hand...
Hm... I'm not certain what could cause such a behavior, but we typically don't test against browser addons (there's just too many and we got a lot of spinning plates). If it's truly an issue with how the header is formed, we would want...

No worries. I'll do some more platform testing at my end and let you know (in another thread some day) if I learn anything interesting to you. I mainly wanted to bring it up in the event other people start with "hey, has anyone see this behaviour?" Sample of one, established.

Once again, thank you.


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Tacticslion wrote:
I approve! (Though I'm totally not Anguish*!)

Or are you?

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Thank you both for your input! I'll keep this in my notes and see what all we can do.


I'll give a thumbs up to the whole Digital Content vs Downloads (the part about putting Downloads in there). I had no idea it was downloads. I found out by accident because I clicked on it thinking it would be a new thing, like a bunch of character pictures or something (art warehouse of character pics used by Paizo publications for example). I wanted to see what kind of art you had put up.

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Last update for the night:

  • A redirect is in place that *should* help with folks who had old bookmarks. If you had old bookmarks, let us know if you're still running into issues.
  • Gamer Life is restored!


  • One thing :

    [color=red]Color isn't working on Explorer, but it is working on my chrome client. My players report it's not working on their firefox clients. They get the color tags displayed instead of red text.[/color]

    Link to screenshots of both Chrome and Internet Explorer


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    Chris Lambertz wrote:
    Anguish wrote:
    The paizo.com front page. It shows "January February March". It didn't take much for figure out why, but those dates are without context. I am aware of the 2010+ style of "obfuscate the interface" but don't approve of it. There really should be a (even small) header saying something like "Products released in the month of" above/below/beside the months.
    There was some wavering internally about this one. I'm leaning towards it having a header and possibly a call to action button underneath. What do you think of a title like "Newest Paizo Releases"?

    That'd probably be a better choice, but I also agree with the comment of not approving of obfuscating interfaces.

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    Also, I'd suggest "Digital Content" should probably say "Digital Content Downloads". I'm been an IT guy for a quarter century and even I wouldn't be looking for my digital content in a menu called digital content.
    Part of this naming convention speaks to some down-the-road changes to how we show you items related to your account. We provide not only downloads, but software keys, e-tickets, and redemption codes. Knowing this, does this change your opinion on its name, or would you name it something different?

    Nope, I'd still put downloads somewhere in the link description.

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    Something weird. I primarily use Firefox (64-bit, Windows). I have an add-on, "Forecastfox". It's normally a tiny widget overlaid in the upper right corner, on top of whatever content I am viewing. So if I'm at Slashdot.org, there's this tiny box in the upper right, almost never interfering with their pages, but it always can if a site were to have something all the way up there. (Sometimes a site might have a Logoff button or something, but this is so small it's rare there's a total overlap.) Anyway, on any paizo.com site, Forecastfox is freaking out and producing a horizontal grey bar the usual height, but literally the entire right-hand...
    Hm... I'm not certain what could cause such a behavior, but we typically don't test against browser addons (there's just too many and we got a lot of spinning plates). If it's truly an issue with how the header is formed, we would want...

    The way to avoid breaking addons is to keep stuff simple. From the drastically decreased page load time, and menu breakage (Chrome, Linux, no addons) Simple is not what happened here.

    I'm going to admit right now that I'm in the camp of "restore the backups". Here's why:

    1) Was a redesign of the site needed to provide content in the future?

    Based on everything I've seen from paizo, the answer to this is no. Digital Keys, and ticket management could be done in the same account/download page as users already had. Paizo's product line isn't going through a change that would require a different mechanism for distribution.

    2) Did the redesign improve load speeds, or existing functionality.
    This is already a huge NO. I'd say more below, but to be honest, I came here to double-check if there was a npc booklet for starfinder published or not because I have a game to prep for tomorrow. I needed to be here for 5 minutes to check, possibly buy, and download. It took me 10 to find my downloads page!

    3) Did the redesign improve new visitor navigation?
    This is a maybe, but not in it's current state of broken. And it is BROKEN, not some minor bugs, BROKEN. The Pathfinder and Starfinder links go to blank pages, the my account dropdown doesn't have anything that looks like a "here's how I sign in now" or any indication of if your signed in or not, and the text size on the downloads page is all out of whack. As someone who is also a network engineer, and project manager. THIS SITE IS NOT READY FOR LIVE PRODUCTION.

    That is not to say that this work isn't good work, or that a redesign wasn't worth considering, it's just this totally isn't it. Not in it's current state, this is a state I'd expect the devs to load on cheap test server or vm and throw staff and friends at for a few weeks to find all the things that aren't working.

    I got nothing else, except that I really would restore the old site, and tell web devs to pound on it for a few more weeks if it was my choice.

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    Just thought of something that is another pro for the return of the sidebar: it was extremely useful on product pages for seeing various other products/product discussions, in addition to the top ten best sellers for that company.

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    mdt wrote:

    One thing :

    [color=red]Color isn't working on Explorer, but it is working on my chrome client. My players report it's not working on their firefox clients. They get the color tags displayed instead of red text.[/color]

    These tags are not officially supported by Paizo, alas. You'll have to bring this up to the folks who manage the extension that is inserting it for you.


    Chris Lambertz wrote:
    mdt wrote:

    One thing :

    [color=red]Color isn't working on Explorer, but it is working on my chrome client. My players report it's not working on their firefox clients. They get the color tags displayed instead of red text.[/color]

    These tags are not officially supported by Paizo, alas. You'll have to bring this up to the folks who manage the extension that is inserting it for you.

    Then you need to remove it from your 'How to format your text' button at the bottom of the text entry section, Mr. Lambertz. Don't advertise things you don't support.

    Screenshot of Paizo supplied 'How to format your text listing Color and Unicode Code tags'

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    mdt wrote:
    Chris Lambertz wrote:
    mdt wrote:

    One thing :

    [color=red]Color isn't working on Explorer, but it is working on my chrome client. My players report it's not working on their firefox clients. They get the color tags displayed instead of red text.[/color]

    These tags are not officially supported by Paizo, alas. You'll have to bring this up to the folks who manage the extension that is inserting it for you.
    Then you need to remove it from your 'How to format your text' button at the bottom of the text entry section, Mr. Lambertz. Don't advertise things you don't support.

    I think the extension may be inserting it there as well. Our list in the How to format your text includes: quote tags, bold/italic/strikethrough, urls, email, lists, bigger/smaller, ooc, spoilers, and dice.


    Hmm, ok, in that case, I apologize. :)


    Regarding labeling the front page -- sure. I might go shorter than "Newest Paizo Releases" though. The visitor is on the Paizo site with a big Paizo logo on it and a Paizo URL in the location bar, so you could shorten it to just "New Releases".

    @mdt -- I suspect the extension that does that for you is the Paizo Campaign Tools extension. It was created by Oladon, who maintains versions for Firefox and for for Chrome. I don't believe it's available for Explorer or Edge. Anyway, he knows, and he's on it.

    Oladon is undoubtedly going to have some work to do to update the extension for the new site. A lot of it depends on checking URLs to see whether the extension should do anything, and many of them have changed now.


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    CONSIDER TEST OF THING HAVING BEEN MADE.

    FOR RECORD, BARBARIAN MORE THAN WILL HELP SMASH ANYTHING, UP TO AND INCLUDING SYSTEM ERRORS.


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    Alias names are purple again, and the text is readable without giving me a headache, and the link text is blatantly blue again.

    That's wonderful! The only thing even remotely approaching an issue left is that I have to scroll to see all my campaign updates at once.

    Oh noooooo, not scrolling. It's so terrible. Just cdg me now, please.


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    New Request (from me anyway, someone else has probably asked for something similar):

    Under the home page, when I go to the community pulldown menu, I'd really like it if I could click on the title "Forums" and be taken here:

    Overview of the forums

    Maybe I'm not used to the new way of doing things yet, but it seems to me I can't directly go to that list of all forums and all subforums (which is my default starting point when browsing the site).

    What I have to do is to go to one of the subforums (like Paizo or whatever) and then click "outwards" from there.

    It's no big deal, but if that forum word could be turned into a link I think it would be both useful and intuitive.


    In terms of feedback/requests. Do the IT team want us to post everything like that in this thread?
    Start a new thread for every individual query?
    Will there be a new thread for each iteration of the rollout in coming days?


    Considering the amount of time spent on this site (and the forums), I'd happily throw some hours at helping solve some of these problems. While I understand that it's highly unlikely that you'd be interested in engineering assistance, is there a formalized QA/Bug submission process that would help streamline this? Leveraging something like Bugzilla or Fossil - heck, even Trac. A public JIRA form could be set up if you're using that internally. As either a PM or an engineer, I'd hate to have to root through forum posts to generate tickets.

    On another note, I have a lot of more technical questions about the technical roadmap around the site, and it would be awesome to meet some of the team behind something that is so near and dear to all of our hearts. Has there been any thought towards a *constructive* "Meet the team" style session at PaizoCon?


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    I went to work, disturbed, anxious, and nervous that I'd have to dial back my participation on the forums, or really use some work-arounds that weren't all that sound.

    So far, the QoL improvements have been amazing, and thank you for the quick attention to detail on them!

    *fingers crossed now for a color change to the top banner, perhaps a nice Paizo Purple?*


    I think everything looks nice. At first look, I thought it seemed clunky.. no.. it's just different. I gotta learn where things are again.

    My only issue is that my downloads area looks weird.. many things got duplicated and other things have broken links. Ahhh redesign growing pains are always fun. (I can't download the last Ruins of Azlant for example)


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    IMO, the site should support pretty much anything bbcode supports. That would include color and code tags. But I guess I won't explode if you don't.


    The text of the post at base level are a little on the large size for me (google chrome), but the quoted text is a bit smaller (though larger than it was before) and seems to be just the right size.

    Any chance we could bring the size of the base post text, to the quoted text size.

    Image of what I mean


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    Trinam wrote:
    Oh noooooo, not scrolling. It's so terrible. Just cdg me now, please.

    Okay, I...

    No, wait...

    Hold on...

    Dude, you gotta hold still, this is a full-round action!


    Here's a screenshot of the tabs at the top of my current PbP game.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/lgjq1bawgk3movo/paizo-sc-002.png?dl=0

    Observe that there is a gap separating the bottom of the tabs from the area below. It kinda breaks the "tab" illusion.

    I'd suggest tweaking this rule:

    .bordered-box.tp-front-tab, .bordered-box.tp-rear-tab {
    display: inline-block;
    margin: 0;
    }

    Thus:

    .bordered-box.tp-front-tab, .bordered-box.tp-rear-tab {
    display: inline-block;
    margin: 0 0 -6px 0;
    border-bottom: 1px solid #FFF;
    }

    In my (admittedly minimal) testing, that pulled the tabs down to meet the border of the .tp-content DIV below, and made it appear as though the content area and the tab are a single contiguous area of white. All the tabs got the white border on the bottom, but only the active tab has the z-index to overlay that border on top of the .tp-content border to create that illusion.

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    Redblade8 wrote:
    Trinam wrote:
    Oh noooooo, not scrolling. It's so terrible. Just cdg me now, please.

    Okay, I...

    No, wait...

    Hold on...

    Dude, you gotta hold still, this is a full-round action!

    Careful! You might provoke an attack of oppurtunity!


    thejeff wrote:
    GreenDragon1133 wrote:
    I don't have the time to read the whole thread. Let me just say, I don't like the interface. I have to try and remember where the threads I was following were, and hunt for them. I'll probably just abandon most of them - possibly the entire forum.

    This will take you to the top level of the forums. The Gamer Life section is missing and I believe they've acknowledged that as an issue they'll be fixing. Possibly the sidebar as well.

    It's a bit of a rocky rollout and it's not quite clear yet what are actual bugs and what are intentional changes. I'd be surprised if a lot of the most common issues aren't cleared up in a couple days.

    Thank you.


    Anybody know if the lack of a notification for new PMs has been fixed? I got one this morning, and there was no notification.

    Haven't gotten one since, so idk if it's been fixed or not.

    Silver Crusade

    Not yet.


    Note, haven't read the whole thread, though I did post a new one with my initial thoughts.

    Tallow wrote:
    To reiterate what many have said before. A point or two larger font, with a more pleasing, rounded style would be nice.

    Please for the love of god don't. I need more than 3 words across, I really really do.

    Responsive sites are hortible things, and thd absolute lack of size control is one of the worst parts of it, please don't make it worse.

    In fact, if you must insist on using the responsive design pattern non-sense, why don't you alleviate some of the worst problems, such as allowing us to choose the screen width we want?

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    The titles of sub-categories (Organized Play landing page) are links. But they are not obviously links. I think buttons rather than different colors for the links would be nice.

    Why? They've always been links, and using a different color to designate links as been a standard for as long as most kids have been alive. It also looks cleaner than making a bunch of buttons.

    If you really want to make their linky nature clearer, pick a color with greater difference from surrounding colors (and make sure link color is uniform throughout website, naturally).

    To be honest though, I'd rather they emulate the non-responsive rpol.net website. Nothing better exists for pbp period, and the entire look, feel, and functionality is one of the best I've ever used.

    Silver Crusade

    Rpol does have a lot of functionality in how to run PBPs but as a trade off it’s clunky as all hell and and not the most appeasing thing to look upon.


    Wait, there's a camp for restoring backups?

    Count me in! +1, no +10, or wait, +... +... oh blueberries, I can't find an infinity symbol. I have a fancy software keyboard consuming half my screen and I still can't find a simple infinity symbol. :(


    Rysky wrote:
    Rpol does have a lot of functionality in how to run PBPs but as a trade off it’s clunky as all hell and and not the most appeasing thing to look upon.

    Say what? You do know the looks can be adjusted in your account settings, right? It has a clean look with minimal extraneous non-sense, and the way the poster information is placed on the side is the best arrangement I've ever seen.

    Could it be better, yea, but nothing I've ever seen compares, though the old paizo was a really good runner up.

    The default colors is my only big complaint visually, but since you can change it, it's a non-issue.

    Small visual improvements could be made, such as rounding the frame corners, or have frames marked by subtle color variation instead of borders, thougn I really do like the borders myself,

    Amd the functionality is a bit clunky, yes I agree, but I'd rather have that functionality than not, and the pm system is lightyears better than paizo even including the clunkiness.


    On the links issue, looking back, I realized that while on the forums list, just about every scrap of text is a link. Aside from menu bars on top and bottom, only the "Forums" and "Subforums" are plain text, and they're black appropriately, and the "Defocus | Show" are blue like links despite only altering view, but the system might be changing view via links or something, but basically, there are all of two words on tge top level that don't do anything when clicked. That is way too many buttons to even contemplate adding.


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    TheAlicornSage wrote:
    Wait, there's a camp for restoring backups?

    There's always such a group.

    Last time Slashdot tried a major update they dramatically changed the functionality of the site, for the worse. The web-designer marketing droids behind the changes obviously had no grasp of what the site was, or how it was used, and the design changes literally defeated the whole point people visited. The users rebelled and the changes were rolled back and have never been reinstated. Because it was awful.

    Last time ArsTechnica tried a major update, they broke major site functionality and they too misunderstood a large part of how the site was used. It wasn't as bad as Slashdot, but it was bad. They too rolled back, discussed with users, and spent a couple months revisiting their changes. They then updated again, with the broken stuff fixed, and quality-of-life changes in place that made things usable again.

    Those were extremes. Both sites were massively impacted and the redesign made them unusable. That's NOT what's happened here. Yes, there are some things that are still broken. Yes, there are things that need to change. But Paizo has indicated they're working on it, and we're talking days. It's easy enough to work around things like "no new PM notification" for a couple days; check manually every once in a while.

    Give the team some time. That's my advice. And again, I don't like change.


    Currently having issue with the menu navigation - the larger text has now shoved the menu text out of the box and off the screen. Anything to the right of Organized Play is inaccessible via menu.


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    Anguish wrote:
    TheAlicornSage wrote:
    Wait, there's a camp for restoring backups?

    There's always such a group.

    Last time Slashdot tried a major update they dramatically changed the functionality of the site, for the worse. The web-designer marketing droids behind the changes obviously had no grasp of what the site was, or how it was used, and the design changes literally defeated the whole point people visited. The users rebelled and the changes were rolled back and have never been reinstated. Because it was awful.

    Last time ArsTechnica tried a major update, they broke major site functionality and they too misunderstood a large part of how the site was used. It wasn't as bad as Slashdot, but it was bad. They too rolled back, discussed with users, and spent a couple months revisiting their changes. They then updated again, with the broken stuff fixed, and quality-of-life changes in place that made things usable again.

    Those were extremes. Both sites were massively impacted and the redesign made them unusable. That's NOT what's happened here. Yes, there are some things that are still broken. Yes, there are things that need to change. But Paizo has indicated they're working on it, and we're talking days. It's easy enough to work around things like "no new PM notification" for a couple days; check manually every once in a while.

    Give the team some time. That's my advice. And again, I don't like change.

    Any software change always triggers the "We hate it. Make it like it was!" response. Sometimes it's justified and long lasting. Other times users come to love the very features they were complaining about. Then you'll see them rant about changes to them in the next update. :)

    It's very frustrating from a software engineer's perspective: users are the only ones who really can know what they want from the system and they're massively unreliable.

    This particular rollout is marred by bugs and by it being hard to tell at first what were intentional design changes and which were bugs. It would have been nice if more of that had been caught in internal testing. In retrospect that delay in the initial rollout should have been worrying - suggests they were implementing features and fixes up to the last moment.
    They've been good at fixing things after the fact. The site's a lot better now than when it first rolled out. I suspect we'll see more of that in the days to come.


    I don't think this has been reported yet, but there's only so much searching I am willing to do:

    • Fonts between [ bigger][ /bigger] tags are actually smaller than normal <-- Example
    • Similarly, [smaller ][ /smaller] text is definitely smaller, but about the same size as "bigger"<-- Example

    Screenshot of example

    According to the CSS, the default font does not have an explicit size, but the "bigger" font class is set to 14px and "smaller" is 13px. That's not going to work. :) Really, these should be encoded as percentages (font-size: 110%, etc.) instead of explicit sizes if you aren't going to state a size for the default (or use font-size: large).

    I have verified this on Chrome, Firefox, and IE on Windows 10 desktop.

    Overall the default font is...pretty big. Too big. It's huge. Ugh.


    VixieMoondew wrote:

    I'll admit, I'm not overly fond of the "depressed French zebra" color scheme.

    It won't be so bad once the kinks are ironed out, though.

    UPDATE: My biggest complaint (that wasn't just "growing pains) was the "mime in The Giver" color scheme, so I'm quite well-appeased now. Many thanks!


    John Mechalas wrote:

    I don't think this has been reported yet, but there's only so much searching I am willing to do:

    • Fonts between [ bigger][ /bigger] tags are actually smaller than normal <-- Example
    • Similarly, [smaller ][ /smaller] text is definitely smaller, but about the same size as "bigger"<-- Example

    Screenshot of example

    According to the CSS, the default font does not have an explicit size, but the "bigger" font class is set to 14px and "smaller" is 13px. That's not going to work. :) Really, these should be encoded as percentages (font-size: 110%, etc.) instead of explicit sizes if you aren't going to state a size for the default (or use font-size: large).

    I have verified this on Chrome, Firefox, and IE on Windows 10 desktop.

    Overall the default font is...pretty big. Too big. It's huge. Ugh.

    The default's a little bigger than I'd like, but better than the one yesterday that it replaced.

    I'd guess the bigger/smaller didn't get updated when they changed the font size yesterday.


    I'll echo the font size comments of some others. I logged on this morning and thought my browser had gotten messed up since yesterday afternoon because the text was suddenly huge. The text in quotes is fine, but the actual posts and thread listings are much bigger (IMO) than the standard font on most web forums and pages.

    Hopefully when the tags are fixed it will reduce a bit. As was mentioned earlier, when tagging it as -bigger- actually makes it smaller, then maybe the normal text is too big.

    Also, it would be nice if the top-level forum was the default destination from the navigation header rather than listing all the sub-forums only. I already set my bookmark to the top level, but still.....


    Chris Lambertz wrote:
  • A redirect is in place that *should* help with folks who had old bookmarks. If you had old bookmarks, let us know if you're still running into issues.
  • My old bookmark asked me to sign in again, then got hung up and never went anywhere. Coming back later skipped the sign-in step but didn't get any further. Using Firefox.


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    Duamatef wrote:


    Also, it would be nice if the top-level forum was the default destination from the navigation header rather than listing all the sub-forums only. I already set my bookmark to the top level, but still.....

    1000 times this, with the entire top level menu. If I click My Account, it should go to my account page, if I click forums, it should go to the forums, if I click store IT SHOULD GO TO THE STORE. Work towards less clicks, not more.

    Also, I'm at work for this post. The time between clicking reply, and the quoted material in the text box was 8 seconds. Monday this was almost instantaneous.


    The website is incredibly buggy and unresponsive for 960x640 screens.

    Edit: It's also all VERY squashed together. I can't get to the starfinder page at all.

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    Gwaihir Scout wrote:
    My old bookmark asked me to sign in again, then got hung up and never went anywhere. Coming back later skipped the sign-in step but didn't get any further. Using Firefox.

    Heya, could you let us know which URL you're trying to navigate to?


    I'm on google chrome (OS X El Capitan 10.11.6) on macbook air (1366x768) and I cannot see bold font on the forums since the newest font change, it just looks like normal font. Bold font appears on Safari like normal. Bold font works for me on Chrome on other websites, and even on non-forum areas of Paizo (like the Need Help? section of the bottom of the website).

    Example Text. It appears slightly more bold, but it doesn't stand out at all.

    Here is a link to how it looks for me on Chrome

    Here is a link to how it looks for me on Safari

    Grand Lodge

    Not sure if its been reported, but clinking on an event name for organized play and it returns the golem screen.
    If its relevent, I am using Firefox Quantum 58.0.2

    Liberty's Edge

    LOVE the return of color - things seem like they are slowly but surely getting better and better!

    The main thing I see now that needs addressed is that all the thread titles on the main page(s) are crammed together without any space between them, making it really hard to visually separate threads

    Also REALLY hoping we can get some kind of more robust spam blocking, but I realize that's probably a separate issue ...

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    Tinalles wrote:

    Here's a screenshot of the tabs at the top of my current PbP game.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/lgjq1bawgk3movo/paizo-sc-002.png?dl=0

    Observe that there is a gap separating the bottom of the tabs from the area below. It kinda breaks the "tab" illusion.

    I'd suggest tweaking this rule:

    .bordered-box.tp-front-tab, .bordered-box.tp-rear-tab {
    display: inline-block;
    margin: 0;
    }

    Thus:

    .bordered-box.tp-front-tab, .bordered-box.tp-rear-tab {
    display: inline-block;
    margin: 0 0 -6px 0;
    border-bottom: 1px solid #FFF;
    }

    In my (admittedly minimal) testing, that pulled the tabs down to meet the border of the .tp-content DIV below, and made it appear as though the content area and the tab are a single contiguous area of white. All the tabs got the white border on the bottom, but only the active tab has the z-index to overlay that border on top of the .tp-content border to create that illusion.

    Howdy Tinalles,

    Thanks for your detailed feedback... I'm going to have the team look into this as soon as some other higher priority items are tackled.
    Dean


    I was hoping to start buying the Adventure Card Game Organized Play scenarios, since my group is almost done with Mummy's Mask. But every time I try to go to their webpage, it just takes me back to the home URL :(

    Any idea when this might be fixed? I want to give you money.


    The Organized Play forums break the boundaries of the Forums menu. Screenshot:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/3qqqiguptk5hgrg/paizo-sc-003.png?dl=0

    That's in Firefox Quantum 58.0.2.

    Also, at the bottom right corner of each forum thread, just below the "All Messageboards" link, there is a select box. Its name attribute is "path". It has no options defined. What's it for?

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