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The Raven Black wrote:

I realize that I REALLY dislike charge items that are not staves. Most charging and/or charge-using mechanisms are far too complicated or out there for me to really enjoy the item.

Note to self : avoid non-staff charge item in the future.

Agree compltely.

x/day items don't bother me in the same way though. Probably cause I don't have to keep track of the recharge component.

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pH unbalanced wrote:
The Raven Black wrote:

I realize that I REALLY dislike charge items that are not staves. Most charging and/or charge-using mechanisms are far too complicated or out there for me to really enjoy the item.

Note to self : avoid non-staff charge item in the future.

Agree compltely.

x/day items don't bother me in the same way though. Probably cause I don't have to keep track of the recharge component.

I can make an exception for on/off type charge effects. If the item can gain a charge, but only hold one, then it is fairly easy to manage. What I don't like is having to do complicate accounting to see if that effect drained the last charge. My simple test for recharging items: if the GM questions you on if you really have the charges to do that, it should be as simple as saying, "I restored a charge when X happened, and haven't spent one since." If its more complicated than that, like going through a backlog of of your last 5 charges, it's too complicated for quick and easy play.

Marathon Voter Season 9

You should never say how or where your item can be found. That is tying the GM's hands, and removing it as an option for random loot unless the GM shoehorns something that might not make sense into their story. Also, it definitely doesn't make sense if the item was bought from a vendor or created by a PC. It has all the downsides of an item backstory, with the addition of forcing that back story to cross paths with the PCs. Avoid this like the plague. We are making tools and goodies for the GM to use to tell their story, not forcing them to tell ours.

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Pathfinder Companion Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

My suspension of disbelief ends when the item is making appraisal checks :-(

Even though the competitor is something I have already seen a thousand times (most recently as a typewriter in Fringe) :-(

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Thomas LeBlanc wrote:
F U game economy and WBL!!!

OK, I snorted my tea - PM me, I gotta know what that item was >.<

Dark Archive Dedicated Voter Season 9

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Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Ugh...thinking you read too much "Order of the Stick" when I see your item.....

Marathon Voter Season 9

Brigg wrote:
Such a shame. That's not how that particular special material works. I can't upvote for you in the face of your competition.

Would you mind PMing me? I'm curious about something. :)

Marathon Voter Season 9

Lucky Pips wrote:
You should never say how or where your item can be found. That is tying the GM's hands, and removing it as an option for random loot unless the GM shoehorns something that might not make sense into their story. Also, it definitely doesn't make sense if the item was bought from a vendor or created by a PC. It has all the downsides of an item backstory, with the addition of forcing that back story to cross paths with the PCs. Avoid this like the plague. We are making tools and goodies for the GM to use to tell their story, not forcing them to tell ours.

If it says where or how an item is FOUND, that's not the same as saying what circumstances would exist if the item were instead CREATED...

Star Voter Season 8, Marathon Voter Season 9

An item that invalidates a class or an item that breaks the bank
decisions, decisions

RPG Superstar 2014 Top 32 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 aka michaeljpatrick

An item that blatantly mentions the name of a non-Golarion IP.

Marathon Voter Season 9

Jason Dandy wrote:
Lucky Pips wrote:
You should never say how or where your item can be found. That is tying the GM's hands, and removing it as an option for random loot unless the GM shoehorns something that might not make sense into their story. Also, it definitely doesn't make sense if the item was bought from a vendor or created by a PC. It has all the downsides of an item backstory, with the addition of forcing that back story to cross paths with the PCs. Avoid this like the plague. We are making tools and goodies for the GM to use to tell their story, not forcing them to tell ours.
If it says where or how an item is FOUND, that's not the same as saying what circumstances would exist if the item were instead CREATED...

While that's true, that means that a line in the items description is meaningless if the item was CREATED or BOUGHT, which is just a bad use of precious words for the item, and if it is FOUND the GM either has to adapt the story to the items story or invalidate that line in the items write up. All of these options are bad. While it could create an interesting hook for a GM, so can any item with compelling uses. Items should be used as tools by the GM to tell their story, not a script of a story created by the designer.

Another issues with saying how a weapon is found: Random loot tables.

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Jason Dandy wrote:
Brigg wrote:
Such a shame. That's not how that particular special material works. I can't upvote for you in the face of your competition.
Would you mind PMing me? I'm curious about something. :)

PM Sent. ^.^

Marathon Voter Season 9

Lucky Pips wrote:
Jason Dandy wrote:
Lucky Pips wrote:
You should never say how or where your item can be found. That is tying the GM's hands, and removing it as an option for random loot unless the GM shoehorns something that might not make sense into their story. Also, it definitely doesn't make sense if the item was bought from a vendor or created by a PC. It has all the downsides of an item backstory, with the addition of forcing that back story to cross paths with the PCs. Avoid this like the plague. We are making tools and goodies for the GM to use to tell their story, not forcing them to tell ours.
If it says where or how an item is FOUND, that's not the same as saying what circumstances would exist if the item were instead CREATED...

While that's true, that means that a line in the items description is meaningless if the item was CREATED or BOUGHT, which is just a bad use of precious words for the item, and if it is FOUND the GM either has to adapt the story to the items story or invalidate that line in the items write up. All of these options are bad. While it could create an interesting hook for a GM, so can any item with compelling uses. Items should be used as tools by the GM to tell their story, not a script of a story created by the designer.

Another issues with saying how a weapon is found: Random loot tables.

i wish round was was over so we could talk candidly, as i think it would be an interesting and fruitful discussion. :)

Sovereign Court Marathon Voter Season 8, Marathon Voter Season 9

Give it time, dude. The "Critique My item" Thread is just...

...well, go take a look at last season's.

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DmRrostarr wrote:
Ugh...thinking you read too much "Order of the Stick" when I see your item.....

I saw your avatar and did a triple take...I haven't seen anyone else using this on these boards and I was confused because I clearly did not remember writing that post!

Dedicated Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9

I never want you in any game i play but I will vote for you!

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Paizo Superscriber; Pathfinder Companion, Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber

Best thought bubble of the voting day for me:

"One Two Three Four, Let's start a thumb war!"

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theheadkase wrote:
DmRrostarr wrote:
Ugh...thinking you read too much "Order of the Stick" when I see your item.....
I saw your avatar and did a triple take...I haven't seen anyone else using this on these boards and I was confused because I clearly did not remember writing that post!

Well be thankful you don't have the same name!

RPG Superstar 2013 Top 32 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9 aka Phloid

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theheadkase wrote:
DmRrostarr wrote:
Ugh...thinking you read too much "Order of the Stick" when I see your item.....
I saw your avatar and did a triple take...I haven't seen anyone else using this on these boards and I was confused because I clearly did not remember writing that post!

I totally thought it was you, too.

Marathon Voter Season 9

That ability your item boosts, it hasn't been called that since 3.5.

Lantern Lodge Marathon Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 9

Lucky Pips wrote:
That ability your item boosts, it hasn't been called that since 3.5.

I found this statement amusing. If tracking by D&D versions, it is a couple versions back, but if counting by Pathfinder, it is only .25 versions back. Thanks for the chuckle...

(nonetheless, the item SHOULD conform to the current nomenclature, not grognard-speak)

Marathon Voter Season 8, Marathon Voter Season 9

I wonder if the authors of magical booze items dedicated to a party god stop to consider if anyone else has ever bothered with that same low hanging fruit.


Thunderfrog wrote:


I wonder if the authors of magical booze items dedicated to a party god stop to consider if anyone else has ever bothered with that same low hanging fruit.

Likely not. That's the thing with themed items, it's like one of those word association games. People think of a deity, or country, or organization, and choose the first thing that pops into their heads when they think of that theme. Of course, so does most everyone else. Part of designing something original is to step outside the norm and go beyond what's typically expected. Explore the design space. Usually there's something waiting there beyond the stereotypes and standard expectations.

Dedicated Voter Season 9

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This item is awesome. Or it would be. But then you tacked on that last bit and it suddenly became the most broken thing I can recall ever seeing.

RPG Superstar 2013 Top 32 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9 aka Phloid

You are the dumbest joke item I've seen in this competition and I can't believe you have not been culled. I don't even care what your competition is. I'm not voting for you.


Yes item I like you I really really like you. I like you in a house and with a mouse. IF only my item had come up 30 times so far so I could vote it up as thoroughly.


Wow! You could make your money back on this item in like a day if you are high enough level!

RPG Superstar 2013 Top 32 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9 aka Phloid

I totally saw this item in Killer Klowns from Outer Space.

Dedicated Voter Season 9

I think your designer has watched a fantastic (yet rather unknown) miniseries. You're just different enough that I can't be certain... but it's dangerous water to tread.

But you should really be an artifact anyway.


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Hey, I saw the ACDC item! NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA ... sing it!

Dark Archive Marathon Voter Season 9

Pathfinder Companion, Lost Omens Subscriber

Yes, I see you Wheel of Time item. Fortunately for you, you are up against Star Trek item.

Marathon Voter Season 8, Marathon Voter Season 9

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I keep reading you as the "Libidomancer". I suppose you would go well with last years mis-read, "Staff of the Viagra King".

I wonder what old Sigmund Freud would think of that.

Star Voter Season 9

Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

Your "I hate outsiders item" is too late. Wrath of the Righteous is over. Try again.

Marathon Voter Season 8, Marathon Voter Season 9

For only a modest gold fee, you can add a LOT of damage. And you can use those feats with it? I have to upvote the other guy, improving his outstanding record with me to 1-5

Marathon Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9

Hmmm, I think there comes a time, when after having read so much sci-fi and fantasy, after so many superhero movies and comics, animes, video games etc., you start believing that every second item is a copycat.

Therefore my conclusion is:
Oiroke no Jutsu

explosive runes


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Mike Franke wrote:
Hey, I saw the ACDC item! NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA ... sing it!

KATAMARI DAMACY!

Marathon Voter Season 8, Marathon Voter Season 9

I think they part out certain items to each of us and make us vote over and over.

Some of my items have been voted on as many as 10-15 times.

Dark Archive Dedicated Voter Season 9

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

what the what??


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Jeff Lee wrote:
Thunderfrog wrote:


I wonder if the authors of magical booze items dedicated to a party god stop to consider if anyone else has ever bothered with that same low hanging fruit.
Likely not. That's the thing with themed items, it's like one of those word association games. People think of a deity, or country, or organization, and choose the first thing that pops into their heads when they think of that theme. Of course, so does most everyone else. Part of designing something original is to step outside the norm and go beyond what's typically expected. Explore the design space. Usually there's something waiting there beyond the stereotypes and standard expectations.

Cayden Calaen's cloak of sobriety and chastity !!!

Shadow Lodge Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9

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In all seriousness...

Body horror squicks me out. If I am not in exactly the right mood, an item which inserts, removes, or warps a part of the user's body will leave me with very little enthusiasm for reading the rest of the item.

It isn't an automatic downvote, but the rest of your item better be fantastic.

And undead creating items are that on steroids.

Marathon Voter Season 8, Marathon Voter Season 9

I feel that way about items that gib spellcasters. What spellcaster in his right mind would make an item that murders other spellcasters?

I guess Master Craftsman is an answer.

Sczarni RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32 , Champion Voter Season 6, Champion Voter Season 7, Champion Voter Season 8, Champion Voter Season 9

Requirements or a ritual?

RPG Superstar Season 9 Top 32 , Dedicated Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 aka Tothric

Thunderfrog wrote:


I feel that way about items that gib spellcasters. What spellcaster in his right mind would make an item that murders other spellcasters?

I guess Master Craftsman is an answer.

Or perhaps a spell-caster who feels they themselves should be the only spell-caster?

Or perhaps, a very angry oracle/sorcerer who feels his powers are a curse.

Perhaps: a caster with a death wish?


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pH unbalanced wrote:

In all seriousness...

Body horror squicks me out. If I am not in exactly the right mood, an item which inserts, removes, or warps a part of the user's body will leave me with very little enthusiasm for reading the rest of the item.

It isn't an automatic downvote, but the rest of your item better be fantastic.

And undead creating items are that on steroids.

Wait, so you have a mood for when you want to gouge your own eyes out?

OH YEAHH!!!

Scarab Sages

Remember - magic items don't kill casters. Murderhobos do.

Marathon Voter Season 8, Marathon Voter Season 9

That's true. Have laws against spell-casting ever stopped spell-casters who are casting spells with evil intent? I say nay!

The only effective defense against spell-casters are spell-casters ready to leap to public defense!


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Mike Franke wrote:
Jeff Lee wrote:
Thunderfrog wrote:


I wonder if the authors of magical booze items dedicated to a party god stop to consider if anyone else has ever bothered with that same low hanging fruit.
Likely not. That's the thing with themed items, it's like one of those word association games. People think of a deity, or country, or organization, and choose the first thing that pops into their heads when they think of that theme. Of course, so does most everyone else. Part of designing something original is to step outside the norm and go beyond what's typically expected. Explore the design space. Usually there's something waiting there beyond the stereotypes and standard expectations.
Cayden Calaen's cloak of sobriety and chastity !!!

I'm guessing that one won't win over many voters...

Seriously though, most times there's an item devoted to Cayden Cailean, it's a mug or has something to do with alcohol. Why is there never a magical version of his favored weapon? What about items that focus on his love of freedom, or accepting challenges, or bravery? It's like people take one look at his name and say "Oh! God of booze!" and that's that.

Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9

Jeff Lee wrote:
Mike Franke wrote:
Jeff Lee wrote:
Thunderfrog wrote:


I wonder if the authors of magical booze items dedicated to a party god stop to consider if anyone else has ever bothered with that same low hanging fruit.
Likely not. That's the thing with themed items, it's like one of those word association games. People think of a deity, or country, or organization, and choose the first thing that pops into their heads when they think of that theme. Of course, so does most everyone else. Part of designing something original is to step outside the norm and go beyond what's typically expected. Explore the design space. Usually there's something waiting there beyond the stereotypes and standard expectations.
Cayden Calaen's cloak of sobriety and chastity !!!

I'm guessing that one won't win over many voters...

Seriously though, most times there's an item devoted to Cayden Cailean, it's a mug or has something to do with alcohol. Why is there never a magical version of his favored weapon? What about items that focus on his love of freedom, or accepting challenges, or bravery? It's like people take one look at his name and say "Oh! God of booze!" and that's that.

Preach!

Wonder if it would be inappropraite to propose a toast to such an inspiring speech...


Papasteve08 wrote:
Jeff Lee wrote:


Seriously though, most times there's an item devoted to Cayden Cailean, it's a mug or has something to do with alcohol. Why is there never a magical version of his favored weapon? What about items that focus on his love of freedom, or accepting challenges, or bravery? It's like people take one look at his name and say "Oh! God of booze!" and that's that.

Preach!

Wonder if it would be inappropraite to propose a toast to such an inspiring speech...

I think Cayden would approve. Cheers!

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