There's probably a way to exploit this bloat bonus stacking to win at DPR and thus be the best roleplayer.
But then the roll-players would complain!
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There's probably a way to exploit this bloat bonus stacking to win at DPR and thus be the best roleplayer.But then the roll-players would complain!
That's fine. They were having badwrongfun anyway.
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...And the bloatfighter, and the bloatpriest, and then we're all set to fight some normalorcs (sorry, Mikaze, no bloat for you).
Unfair! Orcs are players too. We deserve to be as bloated as Gothmog
...but whatever bloats your float
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*Crazy Look in Eyes* I'm mighty afeared of "the Unchaining", I'm stockpiling CRBs in my basement (secured with copious amounts of chain of course). Laugh at me now, but once it happens, you'll all be sorry and begging at my front door for core rule books. *Scurries away to buy more chains*
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Don't forget it's all piazo fault for making people buy new material. It's all their fault because DMs can't say no to their players. Or that gamers are not responsible with how their money is spent. That somehow new material equals forced to purchase. Option paralysis I'm not to sympathetic. Once or twice I can understand. More than that get over it, grow a pair and pick something already. It's playing a rpg. Not saving the world.
So, is bloat an AC bonus or does it ad to DR?
So, is bloat an AC bonus or does it ad to DR?
Bloat is a skill that only the unchained Monk, Barbarian, Summoner and Rogue have as class skills. This skills value automagically adds stacking Bloat bonuses to all AC and DR : )
Bloat Class is your character's imperviousness to GMBWMC (GM b8tch*ing whining moaning and complaining). It functions as additional bonuses to AC, Touch AC, CMD, SR, energy resistances (all), all checks [yep, ALL d20 rolls] *and* it permeates printed character sheets out-of-game in such a way that it adds DR/-- and resist fire.
No one is sure how the last one happens, but it does.
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We've actually been using that squirrel rule at our table for about six months now. I was skeptical at first but it's really grown on me as a way of providing a more immersive experience. We're experimenting with electrodes, matches and liquefied sour gumballs for our wizard to apply to himself whenever he uses an appropriate spells.
Sunstone...SUNSTONE! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SUNSTONE!!! (TaT)
Unreasonable demand, at least state the reason why with a reasonable reason.Well, until we get the book and have a review about it, we can't really make a judgement yet.You have to leave now.
No.
Oh, thanks for not saying mean things to me like Kobold Cleaver and actually telling things! I wouldn't know that if you haven't told me. Interesting...
Peas and carrots, peas and carrots.I say carrots and peas, carrots and peas!
Rhubarb, rhubarb.
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I always wanted to use it once, just to see the looks on the faces of the players, but I just could not bring myself to do it.gotta ask...what did it do?Dude, your username is the poster child of bloat.What? I don't know spell you are talking about. Oh crap you did not even mention a spell did you? Um well I uh have to go now <backs out of thread>
Off-topic-->Real story: I was in a debate on the wizards 3.5 forums a few years ago, and someone tried to dismiss my arguments by stating that my name was the same as that spell. :)
It wasn't even a debate on something being OP or broken, and I would suggest that none of you ever let this spell into your PF games.Second level spell; swift action personal spell that allows melee attacks to be resolved as touch attacks for 1 round. Thus it ignores any armor, shield, & natural armor bonuses.
Apply it to Gloves as an at-will ability for a custom magic item that costs all of 12,000gp and watch the DM cry tears of blood.
It's like Pandora's box, only with stabbings.
It's like Pandora's box, only with stabbings.
Who said I can't do stabbings?
Come now, we do need some common sense to balance out this madness.Well, until we get the book and have a review about it, we can't really make a judgement yet.You have to leave now.
No we don't! Don't you get it? The universe is doomed! DOOOOMED! Dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria!
I need more bloat. I allow any and all books in the d20 system. As a GM I use rules at random when adjudicating actions.
It seems to be working because I have yet had to deal with players who were not foaming at the mouth from an option driven seizure.
I can only hope the bars on my door can prevent James Jacobs from burning down my collection of CRBs (at various stages of errata, versions used at random), forcing me to only use the new unchained material.
Alternatively we could acknowledge that bloat and character class power levels are matters of opinion. The world has plenty of real conflict without us inventing more.
Personally I find the idea that Pathfinder doesn't have a bloat problem patently ridiculous. And judging from so-called "conga line of bloat threads" it would appear I'm not the only one.
And yet somehow I'll refrain from passive-aggressively insulting anyone's parentage. Carry on.
How dare they create optional rules that we're paradoxically forced to buy and use to increase some undefinable and subjective bloat! Time to pull out something MORE restrictive than core! Everyone's a human commoner without feats! :P
The Unwritten Feat of Commoners: Gather Large Mob. Uses the troop rules .
How dare they create optional rules that we're paradoxically forced to buy and use to increase some undefinable and subjective bloat! Time to pull out something MORE restrictive than core! Everyone's a human commoner without feats! :P
The author builds a nice, classic straw man. Unfortunately, he then veers into pandering, leaving the work ultimately unsatisfying. Shows promise, but needs to learn to appreciate subtlety. I would be willing to review this author's future trolling.
** (out of *****)
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As a newcomer, this thread fascinates me. I've vaguely managed to piece together the meaning of "bloat" within the context of PF (I think), and I find it hilarious that anybody could argue that too many options are a bad thing.
3.5e was the most popular edition of D&D and it had enough splatbooks to actually bury you.
Clearly, people's fear of change, innovation, progress and good things are making them drive straight down Irrationality Lane.
Do bloat bonuses stack, like dodge bonuses?
No. You don't add them; you multiply them.
