chbgraphicarts |
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Well, Unchained is coming out in a little over 2 weeks, so in preparation I wanted to get the jump on the bandwagon and start the conga-line of Bloat threads a little early.
Because, as we know, PFU is set to absolutely and forever ruin Pathfinder, just like the Advanced Player's Guide, Ultimate Combat, Ultimate Magic, Advanced Race Guide, Advanced Class Guide, Ultimate Equipment, GameMastery Guide, Ultimate Campaign, NPC Codex, Monster Codex, Mythic Adventures, and Bestiaries 2-4 completely ruined Pathfinder before it.
The question is, HOW is Pathfinder Unchained going to "RUIN PATHFINDER FOR-EVAR!!!"?
I personally think it's going to ruin everything by instituting a requirement whereby players must attach angry squirrels to their nether-regions before making a Combat Maneuver, while simultaneously having Paizo send a player a check for $23 every time they use a Social Skill in place of roleplaying - with a bonus $5 if you refuse to roleplay your character AT ALL, and instead simply communicate in character EXCLUSIVELY by rolling combinations of Intimidate, Diplomacy, and Bluff checks!
And just remember, everybody - it's gonna be the Bloatiest Bloat that ever Bloated!
Kieviel |
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We've actually been using that squirrel rule at our table for about six months now. I was skeptical at first but it's really grown on me as a way of providing a more immersive experience. We're experimenting with electrodes, matches and liquefied sour gumballs for our wizard to apply to himself whenever he uses an appropriate spells.
Snowblind |
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I will miss rogue bashing, I am simply not used to taking the class seriously any more. Oh well there are always rangers
Don't worry. We can refer to them as Old Rogue and New rogue. There will be plenty of opportunities to bash Old Rogue
Think of all the players starting off with CRB only. We can "enlighten" them when they come in and complain about how useless the Rogue is. The only difference is that now we can say "Go play New Rogue" instead of "Go play Slayer/Investigator/Bard".
Who knows. New Rogue might suck as well. Then we can b**** and moan about two Rogues. Happy Days, right?
bugleyman |
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Alternatively we could acknowledge that bloat and character class power levels are matters of opinion. The world has plenty of real conflict without us inventing more.
Personally I find the idea that Pathfinder doesn't have a bloat problem patently ridiculous. And judging from so-called "conga line of bloat threads" it would appear I'm not the only one.
And yet somehow I'll refrain from passive-aggressively insulting anyone's parentage. Carry on.
Chengar Qordath |
We're experimenting with electrodes, matches and liquefied sour gumballs for our wizard to apply to himself whenever he uses an appropriate spells.
Nah, everyone knows the new rules in Unchained are going to include doubling the number of spell slots for all 9th level casters, letting them replace all other stats with their primary casting stat, and the new rule that requires anyone playing a martial to service the caster players in whatever way the require for the length of the game. It's Paizo's latest effort to correct the martial/caster disparity.
Skeld |
I dunno.
I sorta enjoy all the drama, derp, and wharblegarble. It can be entertaining and cathartic to watch people lose their ever-loving minds over a game. I certainly don't take much that goes on here seriously any more.
-Skeld
Helcack |
Ugh this is so much bloat that every character sheet is going to weigh a minimum of 500 Kg from all the optional rules added on. Minimum 70% of that will be an extensive backstory that will justify the characters extensive knowledge of wallaby's with the lore skill, and how they killed the character's parents yadda yadda yadda.
Seranov |
Ugh this is so much bloat that every character sheet is going to weigh a minimum of 500 Kg from all the optional rules added on. Minimum 70% of that will be an extensive backstory that will justify the characters extensive knowledge of wallaby's with the lore skill, and how they killed the character's parents yadda yadda yadda.
Trash Disintegration Day is a very dangerous day.
wraithstrike |
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Dude, your username is the poster child of bloat.
What? I don't know spell you are talking about. Oh crap you did not even mention a spell did you? Um well I uh have to go now <backs out of thread>
Off-topic-->Real story: I was in a debate on the wizards 3.5 forums a few years ago, and someone tried to dismiss my arguments by stating that my name was the same as that spell. :)
It wasn't even a debate on something being OP or broken, and I would suggest that none of you ever let this spell into your PF games.
christos gurd |
TOZ wrote:Dude, your username is the poster child of bloat.What? I don't know spell you are talking about. Oh crap you did not even mention a spell did you? Um well I uh have to go now <backs out of thread>
Off-topic-->Real story: I was in a debate on the wizards 3.5 forums a few years ago, and someone tried to dismiss my arguments by stating that my name was the same as that spell. :)
It wasn't even a debate on something being OP or broken, and I would suggest that none of you ever let this spell into your PF games.
gotta ask...what did it do?
chbgraphicarts |
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wraithstrike wrote:gotta ask...what did it do?TOZ wrote:Dude, your username is the poster child of bloat.What? I don't know spell you are talking about. Oh crap you did not even mention a spell did you? Um well I uh have to go now <backs out of thread>
Off-topic-->Real story: I was in a debate on the wizards 3.5 forums a few years ago, and someone tried to dismiss my arguments by stating that my name was the same as that spell. :)
It wasn't even a debate on something being OP or broken, and I would suggest that none of you ever let this spell into your PF games.
Second level spell; swift action personal spell that allows melee attacks to be resolved as touch attacks for 1 round. Thus it ignores any armor, shield, & natural armor bonuses.
Apply it to Gloves as an at-will ability for a custom magic item that costs all of 12,000gp and watch the DM cry tears of blood.
Kobold Catgirl |
I expected this to be a KC thread for some reason. :P
*Sniff*
As if I'd stoop to referencing children's media.Pathfinder Unchained will actually trick you all. When you open the book, you and your precious "Pathfinder" will be chained. Probably to a railroad track or in a compromising position. It's the opposite of what you'd expect!
Kobold Catgirl |
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Well if that slaying and investigative class were not created we would not need a new rogue. Bloat killed the one true rogue. <cries in the corner>
I'm honestly really f%$#ing sick of all the complaints about bloat. I think bloat kicks ass. It's really great for the game and adds some really fascinating options.
Plus, leeches! Leeches are cool. Personally, I'm hoping we get the next installment of Bloatfinder: The bloatrogue. And the bloatfighter, and the bloatpriest, and then we're all set to fight some normalorcs (sorry, Mikaze, no bloat for you).
wraithstrike |
christos gurd wrote:wraithstrike wrote:gotta ask...what did it do?TOZ wrote:Dude, your username is the poster child of bloat.What? I don't know spell you are talking about. Oh crap you did not even mention a spell did you? Um well I uh have to go now <backs out of thread>
Off-topic-->Real story: I was in a debate on the wizards 3.5 forums a few years ago, and someone tried to dismiss my arguments by stating that my name was the same as that spell. :)
It wasn't even a debate on something being OP or broken, and I would suggest that none of you ever let this spell into your PF games.Second level spell; swift action personal spell that allows melee attacks to be resolved as touch attacks for 1 round. Thus it ignores any armor, shield, & natural armor bonuses.
Apply it to Gloves as an at-will ability for a custom magic item that costs all of 12,000gp and watch the DM cry tears of blood.
I always wanted to use it once, just to see the looks on the faces of the players, but I just could not bring myself to do it.
SiuoL |
No no no SiuoL, this thread is for raving about how the SKY IS FALLING RIGHT NOW!
OMG So much bloat! So many Feats! Option paralysis!
All ah need is power attack, Iron Will, and disruptive! Anything else is too much bloat!
Oh, thanks for not saying mean things to me like Kobold Cleaver and actually telling things! I wouldn't know that if you haven't told me. Interesting...
wraithstrike |
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Insain Dragoon wrote:Oh, thanks for not saying mean things to me like Kobold Cleaver and actually telling things! I wouldn't know that if you haven't told me. Interesting...No no no SiuoL, this thread is for raving about how the SKY IS FALLING RIGHT NOW!
OMG So much bloat! So many Feats! Option paralysis!
All ah need is power attack, Iron Will, and disruptive! Anything else is too much bloat!
Real comment--->He wasn't serious. Basically this is a joke thread so nothing here should be taken seriously unless it has a disclaimer.
wraithstrike |
wraithstrike wrote:And if it doesn't have anything to stack with, it bloats more until it can stack with itself?Umbral Reaver wrote:Do bloat bonuses stack, like dodge bonuses?Bloat stacks with everything, even other bloat. It doesn't care about sources or anything. It just stacks.
Such is the nature of bloat it seems.
SiuoL |
SiuoL wrote:Insain Dragoon wrote:Oh, thanks for not saying mean things to me like Kobold Cleaver and actually telling things! I wouldn't know that if you haven't told me. Interesting...No no no SiuoL, this thread is for raving about how the SKY IS FALLING RIGHT NOW!
OMG So much bloat! So many Feats! Option paralysis!
All ah need is power attack, Iron Will, and disruptive! Anything else is too much bloat!
Real comment--->He wasn't serious. Basically this is a joke thread so nothing here should be taken seriously unless it has a disclaimer.
Okay. Sorry, I take it back. Still kinda new to this forum thing. Thank for clarify this for me. lol