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I find that the amount involved in a heist scenario is less interesting than the reasons behind the heist and the demonstration of skill required to access and acquire the to-be-heisted property or entity. But as long as it's not an insignificant amount - or if there's a good reason for the heist even if the target isn't all that valuable, like sentimental reasons over monetary....
... or wait, are we talking budget?
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Is $10 billion a good target for a heist movie these days?
According to a random Google Search run that I just made, there is:
There is approximately $36.8 trillion worth of physical money around the world.
... of which, 10b would be a 3,600th of the world's physical supply cash. That doesn't sound like a huge amount in one regard, but the world populace is 7b, and thus the upper 1% of the world populace is a total of 70 million. That means that, you know, if you happen to succeed, you are vaulted well into the 1%. Heck, you'd be put into (approximately) the top 1,944,444.444... of the world's population, at least by this basic (wrong) off-the-top-of-the-napkin math.
That said, according to another, different Google search, you'd need,
To reach the top 1 percent worldwide in terms of wealth – not just income but all you own – you'd have to possess $770,000 in net worth, which includes everything from the equity in your home to the value of your investments. That's equal to roughly: 680,083 euros
... so at 10b, you'll need to ask fewer than thirteen people to make that break-even point. (Though if you have some resources you already own, given a "join the 1%" take is 12.987, you can go up to thirteen, though fourteen is right out. So, basically, you're alright and will hit the top 1%, even with thirteen, if you can secure) wait, no, I just realized I had rather badly misplaced my decimal point.
Dude, with 10b, even splitting it by 13, you'll net 769,230,769.23 bucks - that's almost 100 times what it takes to hit the top 1% of the world.
According to this article, the income of the top 1% of the top 1% (the top 0.01%) is $18.9 million; that means that at $769+ million, you'll cover forty years. As an aside, that puts you at an immediate boost above the presumed wealth-value of the top 0.01%: 400 million.
Even presuming you keep only half the take (or a little less via rounding down: from various bribes, liquidating large sums of cash, or simply one-off "fees" of various sorts to place this clearly-illegal cash into "legitimate" systems so the nefarious ne'er-do-wells can hypothetically spend their ill-gotten coin and filthy lucre... presupposing they're not killed or arrested, first, which is far more likely), half of 769 million is 384.5 million, dropped down to 384 million.
That's a very solid amount of capital to have, and, if people are criminal geniuses with a solid (of eclectic) series of talents and particular set of skills honed over the years to a perfect pitch, there might be a decent story in there.
Now, of course, the question becomes, "Where in the ever-loving crap does that much money reside?!" and, honestly, I'm not too sure.
According to this site (which was inspired by the famous movies involving seas and numbers-above-ten) Casinos do, in fact, have an absolute ton of cash, but it seems measured in the tens-of-millions, maaaayyyyyyybe in the hundreds-of-millions: that's 1/100th of what you'd need. Point in fact, the entire casino industry is aimed at about 40b a year. Your heist-themed heroes (or, at least, heist-themed protagonists) would literally be robbing 1/4 of the year's earnings for the entire industry. HOLY SMARGS. I imagine, then, that casinos are right out (at least any that I can think of).
I mean, this place suggests you'd need about 4,000 banks (or a single on-hand bank with 4,000 individuals of maximum-value accounts using it) to cover 1/100th of what you're searching for. That seems to nix most banks, too.
Wealthy corporations seem pour fits - I happened to stumble across something claiming Apple kept $246 billion in "cash" overseas, but it's just investments and diversified interests spread across a plethora of individual locations - there isn't some secret known cash pile somewhere.
So... that more or less leaves something reeeeaaaally weird, like Fort Knox - which (again, according to Google) has:
According to the U.S. Mint [1], there are currently 147.3 million ounces of gold in Fort Knox, KY. At a current price of about $1776 per ounce, this is worth 261.6 billion dollars.
... which is 26 times what you're looking for. Also, it would be worthless, because what are you going to do with that much gold. Also would be easily traceable, and stupidly heavy.
But, hey, grabbing 1/26 would... still be infeasable.
According to this horrible, horrible click-bate thing company cash piles at the lower portion of the top ten hover around the low-to-mid 20 billions, and all of the "cash piles" are actually spread around in larger regions - not neatly actually piled.
So, in conclusion, while 10b would be a fantastic amount for the would-be criminals, it's not really possible or feasible - there really aren't really large reservoirs of cash on-hand in any one place to acquire like that.
I mean, also, don't engage in criminal activity, because it's terrible and likely to get you killed, but, eh.
Hope this helps!
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Tacticslion |
Gary Teter wrote:Is $10 billion a good target for a heist movie these days?According to a random Google Search run that I just made, there is:
Quote:There is approximately $36.8 trillion worth of physical money around the world.... of which, 10b would be a 3,600th of the world's physical supply cash. That doesn't sound like a huge amount in one regard, but the world populace is 7b, and thus the upper 1% of the world populace is a total of 70 million. That means that, you know, if you happen to succeed, you are vaulted well into the 1%. Heck, you'd be put into (approximately) the top 1,944,444.444... of the world's population, at least by this basic (wrong) off-the-top-of-the-napkin math.
That said, according to another, different Google search, you'd need,
Quote:To reach the top 1 percent worldwide in terms of wealth – not just income but all you own – you'd have to possess $770,000 in net worth, which includes everything from the equity in your home to the value of your investments. That's equal to roughly: 680,083 euros
... so at 10b, you'll need to ask fewer than thirteen people to make that break-even point. (Though if you have some resources you already own, given a "join the 1%" take is 12.987, you can go up to thirteen, though fourteen is right out. So, basically, you're alright and will hit the top 1%, even with thirteen, if you can secure)wait, no, I just realized I had rather badly misplaced my decimal point.Dude, with 10b, even splitting it by 13, you'll net 769,230,769.23 bucks - that's almost 100 times what it takes to hit the top 1% of the world.
According to this article, the income of the top 1% of the top 1%...
Here is how ouch money is in the workd. Also my wife suggested the possibility of non-physical theft. So.
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What if the decoy heist team is mostly parkour ninjas riding these?
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There’s really no such things as venomous cats, right?
Depends on what you mean. (So, yes, there are venomous cats, if by "venomous" you mean "hosting brain-altering parasite.")
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