So pumped for this
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My baby... Hope you had a good death at least...
But also pause... heart of the Eye of Abendego, you say?
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Was anything mentioned re an .epub version as well? This will likely be the first hardback I’ve picked up in quite some time, but love the flexibility of digital.
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But also pause... heart of the Eye of Abendego, you say?
It makes sense to me. If you want bits of godstuff to rain down on large portions of Golarion, ripping a deity apart high up in a magically massive hurricane seems like a good mechanism.
I am curious as to how the Eye connects to Rovagug's prison, though. Perhaps the deity's death taking place there is significant.
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Finally doing something with your iconics (aside from the comics). :) Yeah, I'm gonna get this.
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Novels are back yay!
Liane is writing also yay!
Woo! Novels are back, baby!
Was anything mentioned re an .epub version as well? This will likely be the first hardback I’ve picked up in quite some time, but love the flexibility of digital.Godsrain will be available as an e-book and audiobook as well.
Same day as the hardcover or later?
Is there any news about the two remaining novels as audiobooks?
"Through the Gate in the Sea" and "Gears of Faith" are still missing from the audiobook releases.
Was anything mentioned re an .epub version as well? This will likely be the first hardback I’ve picked up in quite some time, but love the flexibility of digital.Godsrain will be available as an e-book and audiobook as well.
Awesome, thanks Mark!
Was anything mentioned re an .epub version as well? This will likely be the first hardback I’ve picked up in quite some time, but love the flexibility of digital.Godsrain will be available as an e-book and audiobook as well.
Awesome, I was hoping audiobook would be an option!
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Godsrain will be available as an e-book and audiobook as well.Same day as the hardcover or later?
Is there any news about the two remaining novels as audiobooks?
"Through the Gate in the Sea" and "Gears of Faith" are still missing from the audiobook releases.
Should be same day across all formats.
As for the two missing audiobooks you mention, MacMillan Audio has the rights to publish those (or not) still, and when TOR didn't renew the Pathfinder Tales license in 2017, the audiobooks for these were cancelled.
When the rights to those novels reverts to Paizo, we will explore making audiobooks of them, because I certainly don't like there being this gap in our catalogue, but there are costs associated with producing those, and the return on that investment for books that are otherwise out of print and years old is much less than the potential return on new material, so we'll have to strike a balance.
Should be same day across all formats.
As for the two missing audiobooks you mention, MacMillan Audio has the rights to publish those (or not) still, and when TOR didn't renew the Pathfinder Tales license in 2017, the audiobooks for these were cancelled.
When the rights to those novels reverts to Paizo, we will explore making audiobooks of them, because I certainly don't like there being this gap in our catalogue, but there are costs associated with producing those, and the return on that investment for books that are otherwise out of print and years old is much less than the potential return on new material, so we'll have to strike a balance.
Thanks for the info. That is perfectly understandable.
But that Godsrain will be at the same day will help me tremendously.
I hope that using Audible will help the decision for more novels as well.
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If you would like to see more novels, it would likely behoove you to buy this and encourage all your friends to do the same.So is fiction coming back coming back, or is this a special release only?
I would love to see more novels, but a cheaper paperback option would be appreciated.
Was anything mentioned re an .epub version as well? This will likely be the first hardback I’ve picked up in quite some time, but love the flexibility of digital.Godsrain will be available as an e-book and audiobook as well.
HOLUP
Paizo is gonna give me audiobooks!?
Desna smiles on me TvT
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I would love to see more novels, but a cheaper paperback option would be appreciated.If you would like to see more novels, it would likely behoove you to buy this and encourage all your friends to do the same.So is fiction coming back coming back, or is this a special release only?
Problem is the cheap paperbacks don't make money.
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Yeah the E-Book has pretty much eaten the paperback's lunch.
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Was anything mentioned re an .epub version as well? This will likely be the first hardback I’ve picked up in quite some time, but love the flexibility of digital.Godsrain will be available as an e-book and audiobook as well.HOLUP
Paizo is gonna give me audiobooks!?
Desna smiles on me TvT
Audible does have the audiobooks of the other novels we have released (and the audio dramas too if you like full cast with sound effects)
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Audible does have the audiobooks of the other novels we have released (and the audio dramas too if you like full cast with sound effects)Was anything mentioned re an .epub version as well? This will likely be the first hardback I’ve picked up in quite some time, but love the flexibility of digital.Godsrain will be available as an e-book and audiobook as well.HOLUP
Paizo is gonna give me audiobooks!?
Desna smiles on me TvT
The audiobook for Shy Knives is quite good!
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I would love to see more novels, but a cheaper paperback option would be appreciated.
If the hardcover sells well enough, trade paperback and maybe eventually mass market paperback are distinct possibilities. Purchasing it as an ebook or audiobook in the meantime will also help us determine how viable other formats are.
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I hope that using Audible will help the decision for more novels as well.
It certainly will! While we'll make more money off of audiobook sales directly on paizo.com (assuming we go with a digital distribution partner that allows such), we will be looking at sales numbers overall, not just raw revenue, to see how successful this experiment is. So buy the novel in whatever format works best for you, on whatever marketplace is most convenient, and we'll count that as a win!
Okay, gotta ask this, but is this "in continuity" or "out of continuity" for those characters? By this, I mean are we getting some sort of canon story which will affect them and be remembered by them in the future (as far as their personality and character growth goes... of course Amiri is going to have to deal with the death of her god) or is this just as much of a "okay, we set this particular set of iconics in this situation, next time we use them they won't remember that this happened and will be across the world in a different story" thing, like with adventure paths? By this I mean, is this the Star Trek: The Next Generation or Star Trek: Deep Space Nine approach?
Both approaches have their advantages and disadvantages, but since the iconics are, well, the iconics, of course it has more meaning to me if they experience permanent character growth or remain in their character stasis they've been in for the last decade and a half.
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is this the Star Trek: The Next Generation or Star Trek: Deep Space Nine approach?
Probably more TNG than DS9, in the sense that we don't want someone who comes to these characters in a few years to be missing something by not having read this book. But there are some major changes to the characters that come about in the novel, so maybe it's a bit of both? You'll have to read it and report back on which of the two narrative styles you feel it fits more into.
is this the Star Trek: The Next Generation or Star Trek: Deep Space Nine approach?Probably more TNG than DS9, in the sense that we don't want someone who comes to these characters in a few years to be missing something by not having read this book. But there are some major changes to the characters that come about in the novel, so maybe it's a bit of both? You'll have to read it and report back on which of the two narrative styles you feel it fits more into.
Alright, will do! :)
I can see why you would be hesitant to involve the iconic characters in ongoing storylines, for the reason you mentioned. In the cases of Amiri and Seelah, they already are part of the Owlcat CRPG's, which are not canonical to the "true timeline" of Golarion (which is established by the AP's), yet make those two have very definite personalities in the minds of people who have played those games.
Is this book gonna have a chronicle sheet like the novels released during 1e did?
Can you pre order digital copies or just the Hardcover?
I also assume that the Digital copy and the Hardcover copy are two separate buys, as in I wont get a PDF as well when buying the Hardcover?
Where can I pre-order the audiobook?
This might be a silly question, but will this be part of the old Pathfinder Tales subscriptions? Or do we need to order it as a standalone product?
I am cool with either, but want to make sure that if I need to pre-order that I do so.
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Paizo, you have such great, deep, well thoughtout lore and world building. Please do yourselves and us simple folks a favor and continue the novels. You have such great characters that you shelved, like Salim Gadafar, the Atheist priest hunter that sold his soul to Pharasma... bring these characters back. Cheers
The novels stopped not becasue Paizo wanted to stop, but because they couldn't find any publisher interested in doing them anymore, sadly.
So yeah, the success of this new one will be very important for the future prospects.
Nice. Is this the first time the Iconics have been put in a novel? I like the look of this.
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Hope it does well enough for the trade or mass market paperback. I avoid hardcovers for their size and weight primarily. If it was priced the same I'd still buy the paperback. But hopefully in a year I'll be able to.
We hope so too, but the easiest way to help us feel comfortable publishing this in other formats is if sales on this one are high enough. So consider getting the hardcover as a gift for someone who doesn't mind the weight and size, or pick it up in eBook or audiobook format while we wait to see how well it does and assess the viability of a trade or mass market option.
Is the eBook going to be available from the Google Play store? (Or library services like Libby/Overdrive?)
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Is the eBook going to be available from the Google Play store? (Or library services like Libby/Overdrive?)
Yes, it should be. We are in the process of setting up wider eBook and audiobook distribution channels for this book and our back catalogue, and all three of those should be among those available to readers. For Libby/Overdrive, you'll need your local library to buy a copy to lend, of course, but it will be available for them to do so.
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Okay, I pre-ordered this ages ago, when it was first announced. I am super excited about this.
Reading through this thread though... I think I'll buy a Kindle copy as well, use my hardcover as a display piece in my bookshelf and use the kindle copy to read. In about a month or so afterwards, basically the next time I have to drive to Florida, I'll probably get the audio book.
Speaking of the audio book, has there been a release about who is narrating it?
Preordered Hard Cover and Getting the Audiobook on Audible.
I want to see the Tales line return :)
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Surprise! This will be an October release! :)
The audiobook, which is still in production, will not be moving up to an earlier release date, and may, in fact come out a few weeks after Godsrain shows up in bookstores other than Paizo.com. We will have a product page and release date for it as soon as a few production-based elements are clarified.
This might be a silly question, but will this be part of the old Pathfinder Tales subscriptions? Or do we need to order it as a standalone product?
I am cool with either, but want to make sure that if I need to pre-order that I do so.
Did we get an answer on whether Tales Subscribers need to Pre-Order this or it will be sent as part of that subscription?