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Swarm that Walks and Hivemind Swarm The Swarm that Walks Template showed up in 1E Bestiary 2 (see Worm that Walks) and the Hivemind Swarm Template showed up in 1E Bestiary 6. I am not entirely sure this is a Mythic Destiny, but a Hivemind Swarm Archetype would definitely set up a Mythic Swarm that Walks Archetype.
Animal Lord The Animal Lord Template showed up in 1E Bestiary 3. I recommend checking it out on Archives of Nethys. This Template is already set up perfectly to be a Mythic Destiny.
** spoiler omitted **I can very easily see Dretha fit and fare much better in the new pantheon than she did in the old one.I will say this much... my beloved Dretha, it is still unclear what your fate may be.I really wanna knooooow Orc Pantheon lore x'D Oh my goodness, yes, I saw the back matter... but... but... it's still ambiguous right... right? I may be in a little bit of denial. Divine Mysteries cannot come soon enough.
I really wanna knooooow Orc Pantheon lore x'D I will say this much... my beloved Dretha, it is still unclear what your fate may be.
For those who might be looking for it, this is the first Quest Adventure published with the ORC License. I believe all Pathfinder lines are now under the ORC, Yay!!!
The Front Matter and Back Matter of The Resurrection Flood has related lore, especially in regards to the Orc Pantheon.
Isn't there minotaur warspawn going around in Isle of Kortos claiming to be Voradni Voon and recruiting harpies, minotaurs and etc? Yes! I didn't mention it because I didn't want to spoiler to much. My personal hope is that a new minotaur is claiming the mantle of Voradni Voon, but is an animist so it's legit. And that a remorseful Voon spirit is providing guidance to lead the minotaurs, centaurs, and harpies back through the Brazen Gate to establish their lost homeland on Casmaron.
Agreed! All the developments in Arcadia are super exciting!!! I can't help but feel that an Arcadia book is on the 2-3 year horizon.
Ohhhhhhhhhh! "Nightmares riddled with Star-Worm bile," - War of Immortals pg. 136 They mentioned the Star-Worm!!!! Oh snap, that is some cosmic horror goodness!!!!!!!
War of Immortals - Casmaron Recap Keyword Searches: Casmaron Divine beings supply their blood to Bloodragers in Casmaron for wars involving hidden threats. - War of Immortals page 60
I am hoping for a Vassal Archetype to replace the 1E Samurai. Basically a Vassal Archetype would start similarly to the Cavalier Archetype, where you can be dedicated to an organization. Unlike the Cavalier Archetype, a Vassal Archetype would assume a character is on foot instead of mounted. Additionally, a Vassal Archetype would have feats that replaced the 1E Samurai’s Resolve abilities, Challenge abilities, and Last Stand ability. A Vassal Archetype would have access to the Cavalier’s Banner Archetype Feat, and the Cavalier could select any feats that replaced the 1E Challenge abilities.
Here is my list of every potential ancestry that I found in 1E sources. Please note that I pulled list together awhile ago and there are several things that have been updated in 2E. I have made annotations for some of them, but I have not kept up with it. I will inevitably give the list a deeper review at somepoint and make updates. Oh, and Giants are for the most part not on this list as I had assumed that large ancetries were mostly off the table, but that is not the case! If you want to learn about any of these, I recommend searching on Archives of Nethys in the 1E section. Some of these are really interesting peoples. Aasimar, Aballonian, Adaro, Adherer, Adlet, Amurruns [Catfolk], Android, Animate Dream, Apallie, Aphorite, Aquatic Elf, Astomoi, Atomie, Automaton, Azarketi [Gillman], Azer Beastkin [Skinwalker], Being of Ib, Boggard, Bugbear (Wikkawak), Buggane, Bog Strider, Caliban, Caligni [Dark Folk], Calikang, Caulborn, Cecaelia, Ceratioidi, Changeling, Charda, Charau-ka [Apefolk], Centaur, Contemplative (Enlightened), Cyclops Deep One (Elder), Deep One Hybrid, Denizen of Leng, Derhii, Derro, Dhampir, Dire Corby, Doppeldrek (Awakened), Doppelganger, Dragonkin, Drow (Drow Noble), Duergar, Duskwalker, Dwarf Elf, Enlightened Construct, Faun, Fetchling, Fleshwarp, Firbolg, Formian, Ganzi, Gargoyle, Gathlain, Ghoran, Ginever, Girtablilu, Gnoll, Gnome, Goblin (Monkey Goblin, Kijimuna), Graeae, Gray, Green Martian, Grindylow, Grioth, Grippli Half-Elf, Halfling, Half-Orc, Harpy, Herne, Hobgoblin, Human Ichthyocentaur, Ifrit, Iruxi [Lizardfolk](Scion), Kappa, Karkinoi, Kasatha, Kaava [Kech], Kerakinsi, Khaei, Kitsune, Kobold, Kuru, Lashunta, Lava Child, Leng Ghoul, Leshy (Vine+), Locathah, Maftet, Magmin, Mannequin Robot, Medusa (Euryale, Eygreas), Mephit, Mercane, Merfolk (Deep Merfolk), Merlucent, Mezlan, Minotaur, Mongrelmen, Morlock, Mortic (Angheuvore, Jitterbone, Gurgist, Lifeleecher, Etioling, Relictner), Muckdweller, Mudlord, Munavri, Murajau (Paguroida), Myceloid Nagaji, Naiad, Nephilim, Nephlei, Nightgaunt, Ningyo Ogrekin (Half-Ogre), Oneirogen, Onyvolan, Orang-pendak, Orc, Oread Panotti, Pech, Petitioner, Poppet, Primitive Human, Reptoid, Rougarou Sabosan, Saguaroi, Sahuagin, Salamander, Samsaran (Reborn), Sandman, Sasquatch (Fen Mauler), Saumen Kar, Saurian, Selkie, Sekmin [Serpentfolk], Shabti, Shae, Shobhad, Shulsaga, Siyokoy, Skeleton, Skulk, Skum, Soulbound (Doll, Mannequin, Shell), Spriggan, Sprite+, Strix, Stygira, Suli, Svirfneblin [Deep Gnome], Sylph, Syrinx, Tanuki, Tengu (Daitengu), Tenome, Thorgothrel, Thremindyr, Thriae, Tiefling, Tikbalang, Triaxian, Triton, Trox Udaeus, Umasi, Unfettered Phantom, Undine, Urdefhan Vanara, Vegepygmy (Thorny), Vishkanya, Vodyanoi Wayang, Witchwyrd, Wooden Protector, Wyrwood, Wyvaran Xill, Xulgath [Troglodyte] Yaddithian, Yeti, Ysoki [Ratfolk], Zhyen 1E Monstrous Humanoids Anunnaki, Basavan, Buggane, Gargoyle (2E = Beast), Gegenees, Ghole, Graeae, Grendel, Hag (2E = Humanoid), Humbaba, Jorogumo (2E = Humanoid), Kappa (2E = Beast), Krampus (2E = Unique Humanoid), Lamia (Matriarch) (2E = Beast), Maenad, Mothman (Elder) (2E = Aberration), Nependis, Ningen, Popobala (2E = Humanoid), Psoglav, Pukwudgie (2E = Fey), Qallupilluk, Rawhead, Rokurokubi (2E = Humanoid), Stormghost, Svathurim, Vouivre 1E Ooze
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Hmm... Thinking in terms of building blocks, this one is tricky. There are schools from 5 meta regions and the First World, so that doesn't seem to provide many clues. Maybe the building block is the focus on different magical traditions. Regardless this is a very exciting book!
Happy Pride Everyone!
I don't think they're live yet, because they can't be sold digitally for another 3 weeks or so Thank you!
Is this OGL or ORC? I am uncertain when the Quests line will make the transition.
I am having trouble locating the product pages for these two. Are they not live yet? Just making sure I am not overlooking them.
So, with the new standard that stand alone adventures will be larger hardback adventures, that bodes well for the eventual release of this adventure. Just food for thought.
This might be a silly question, but will this be part of the old Pathfinder Tales subscriptions? Or do we need to order it as a standalone product? I am cool with either, but want to make sure that if I need to pre-order that I do so.
I read it more akin to Razmir taking an extraplanar spa day and, by sheer bad luck, not only missing the Godsrain itself, but missing out on his chance to grab a chunk of godflesh while one might have been easily accessible. Sorry, yes this how I read it as well, but then my mind jumped to what happens next when Razmir learns he missed out. I could have made that clearer.
Also, just putting out there, Razmir is going to definitely want to get his hands on the sweet, sweet, deity making, god stuff.You know? That's fair. We don't really know what Razmir is going to do in response to this whole thing, but it isn't going to be "nothing". Now, I know you didn't just say that Razmir will be sending out his agents to kidnap exemplars so that he can run experiments on them to extract their God stuff and transfer it into him. But, it does kind of sound like that's what you said...
This may be a bit odd, but if we get an Inner Sea war, my money is on the Broken Lands. Brevoy has been on the edge of a civil war for a while. Mendev and the Sarkoris Scar are still dealing with remnants of the forces from World Wound invasion, not to mention the death of impending eidolon deity. Razmiran and any number River Kingdoms always have an eye out to expand territory. That leaves Numeria, which doesn't seem to be very war focused, except there has been simmering conflict between those who reject tech and want it eradicated and those who embrace it. If the temperature was turned up on that conflict that could easily grow into a civil war. Also, just putting out there, Razmir is going to definitely want to get his hands on the sweet, sweet, deity making, god stuff.
So, Paizo has often mentioned that they see their books as building blocks, with each new book helping to build towards a future release. So with that in mind, did I hear correctly during the stream that we will be following the two new iconics as they travel to Southern Garund in the War of Immortals book? Now, if I heard that correctly, I understand that is not an announcement of a Southern Garund book, but oh the implications…
Not sure if I understood correctly. So qlippoth is purely the creation of Paizo, but shoggti, nyogoth, chernobue, and Shiggarreb cannot be used in Pathfinder Remaster? I didn't know they were created by Green Ronin because they appeared in First Edition Bestiary 2 and Book of the Damned. But if they were created for Pathfinder in the first place instead of D&D, perhaps they are still usable in Pathfinder Remaster? Qlippoth is a real world term in the public domain and is therefore save to use by any publishing company. The first appearance of shoggti, nyogoth, and chernobue was in a book produced by a gaming company called Green Ronin. Green Ronin published using the OGL License. Because Green Ronin used the OGL License, this allowed Paizo to use those 3 qlippoth in there books that were also published with the OGL License. With Paizo moving to the ORC License, they are prohibited from using material from other companies that published using the OGL License. Which means Paizo is prohibited from using shoggti, nyogoth, and chernobue. There is additional nuance, but hopefully this helps with understanding.
I wonder if the term "Ulat-Kini" will be decoupled from the Alghollthus and instead become the ancestral name of the Deep Ones. Considering the Deep Ones lack an ancestral name, and that the Ulat-Kini and Deeps Ones are already extremely close in theme and presentation I could see that as a possibility.
Aaron has been an absolute delight, best of luck on your future endeavors Aaron!!!
Just close to two decades of print product containing a lot of examples in text that might be tricky to all track down. :-/ OH! This sounds like a fun research task! I will provide a full report when I am done.
My top guess is marked safe. So, I am going to go with Gorum as my next choice. I don't have a good reason for it though.
Hiromi is an absolute treasure, they are the loot in my dungeon! When is the novel :)
Why are they bandits and cannibals? Are they acting within the norms of the culture and society in which they were raised? Are they part of a larger society that has failed them to the point that banditry and cannibalism are appropriate means of survival? If they had reasonable alternatives to banditry and cannibalism provided to them, would the have accepted those alternatives? Did the player character have the authority in setting to perform justice in the field? Are citizens of the society where the captives were taken legally empowered to perform field justice? These are only a few possible questions. But more importantly, there may need to be a discussion at the table regarding expectations and limitations about the kind of issues players are comfortable with. I hope your table can find agreeable resolution.
On a different note, the recently announced adventure Prey for Death serves double duty as a building block. On one hand it helps fill in information of the Red Mantis Assassins and by extension Mediogalti Island, which helps prepare us for a High Seas book. And on the other hand, information on the Red Mantis Assassins helps build towards an intrigue/spies/espionage book. Which, I would guess we need an intrigue/spies/espionage book before going to the Shining Kingdoms, the Golden Road, and a big chunk of Casmaron.
Saga Lands
1. In 2E Shoanti Totemism changed to being called Shoanti Animism.
I do hope we get a Character Guide though. I would have loved to have had a Character Guide of the Mwangi Expanse and the Impossible Lands.
Thank you James for sharing your insights. They are always deeply appreciated. And thank you everyone else for chiming in to share information. It is most helpful!
Oh, I did miss that they were moving toward Sithhud, that's wonderful news! Thank you for sharing. I remain curious to see how Sithhud's return to power is handled.
I couldn’t find if this is something that has been discussed or not, so if it has, please point me in the right direction. I am curious what will become of the six OGL Demon Lords. I could see some of them being killed off in the upcoming War of Immortals. This could also allow some Nascent Demon Lords to take over their realms and move up to full Demon Lord status. The six OGL Demon Lords include: Baphomet, Dagon, Jubilex, Kostchtchie, Orcus, and Pazuzu. My thoughts on potential outcomes are below. Baphomet - As a Demon Lord it seems like Baphomet has already been on a different trajectory for a while. I could easily see that story progress with Baphomet abandoning the Outer Rifts altogether. Baphomet pulled the Ivory Labyrinth from Hell to the Outer Rifts, so I could easily see him packing up and moving his realm to the Maelstrom. Baphomet was never treated well by Lamashtu, and I am not sure he is particularly invested in the Outer Rifts. I could easily see Baphomet just being done with being a Demon Lord and being done with the Outer Rifts.
Dagon - I could see Dagon easily going one of two directions. Golarion mythology indicates the Dagon was a Qlippoth Lord before turning into a Demon Lord. For me, Dagon never felt like his grasp on being a Demon Lord was particularly strong, so I could see him reverting to a Qlippoth Lord and using his Qlippoth name instead of his Demon name. Alternatively, the mythology could be incorrect and the extremely ancient Dagon was not a Qlippoth Lord at all, but instead was a Great Old One and has been playing Demon Lord for whatever reasons. The War of Immortals could be the impetus for Dagon to go back to proper Great Old One status. Jubilex - For me, if Dagon felt like he didn’t have a firm grasp on being a Demon Lord, Jubilex’s Demon Lord status was hanging on by a thread. Jubilex also started off as a Qlippoth Lord and it would make so much sense for Jubilex to abandon the whole Demon Lord thing and revert to using their Qlippoth name and reinstating their Qlippoth Lord status. Kostchtchie - I could absolutely see Kostchtchie getting taken out in the War of Immortals. Kostchtchie is pretty entrenched in the OGL so that is a problem. But, considering that Baba Yaga has been so over Kostchtchie for a while, the War of Immortals is the perfect opportunity for her to clean up that loose end. I am not suggesting that Baba Yaga would take Kostchtchie out herself, but I could see her arranging things so that he gets taken out. Orcus - Orcus is an interesting case. Initially, Orcus was considered an obscure Demon Lord on Golarion, but as the editions progressed we saw Orcus utilized more. It could be that the War of Immortals sends Orcus back into obscurity. But, Orcus is also a good candidate to get knocked off. I can only imagine that Zura, Kabriri, and Urgathoa would all be delighted to grab a piece of his divine portfolio. Pazuzu - Dead. He is sooooo dead. Lamashtu has had it out for Pazuzu ever since he betrayed her and left her for dead. Lamashtu has long been waiting for a convenient excuse to hunt down Pazuzu and eliminate him for good. The War of Immortals is the perfect opportunity, while the other powers of the Outer Rifts are distracted, Lamashtu can finally kill off Pazuzu without concern for consequences.
While I don’t know that this is something we have been building towards, it occurs to me that with the development of Starfinder 2E, a Dark Tapestry and Dominion of the Black book for Pathfinder would be a great way to add some synergy between the two settings. The Dark Tapestry section would have all the cosmic horror/cthulhu mythos goodies. While the Dominion of the Black section would have alien space terror goodies. As a Pathfinder book it would be more closely themed towards the fantasy side of cosmic entities and alien visitations in the dark of night. But the book could point to Starfinder for those looking for stronger Science Fiction elements.
Random speculation but… there was that one comment about a God being torn apart. Well, what if a god dies, but the constituent parts of that god survives. There are two gods in the Core 20 that have very strong constituent parts. Gozreh - Torn apart but the Winds and the Waves survive as separate entities. Ioz’om/Hyjarth as a sky deity and Tourithia as a sea deity. But for whatever reason I don’t feel like this is likely. Norgorber - Torn apart but Reaper of Reputation, Father Skinsaw, Gray Master, and Blackfingers survive as separate entities. For whatever reason, I feel it is more likely that Norgorber is killed but his four personas survive as minor deities. And honestly, I think that would be kind of awesome.
LOL, fun stuff Jerdane.
Bluemagentim - Wow, that sounds like a wicked encounter. I am happy you found the Sea-Sworn! dirkdragonslayer - The Bone Golem is a great monster and is a wonderfully creepy golem!
Thanks for the kind words Aristophanes and Raven. And Gate Archons and Iathavos are both fantastic options for graduation.
In one of the recent live streams there was a random comment about monsters graduating into Monster Core to help fill in some of the gaps from the removal of OGL monsters. So for fun, I decided to gather up those 3.5 Pathfinder monsters that never graduated to 1E or 2E and provide my elevator pitch as to why they are ready to graduate into Monster Core 2 or Monster Core 3, if or when those books start development. Sometimes, updated monsters can be hard to spot. So if anyone is aware of any of these monsters appearing in 1E or 2E please let me know. Also, is there something I missed, please let me know. Are there any monsters from 3.5 Pathfinder, 1E Pathfinder, or 2E Pathfinder that you hope to see "graduate" into a Monster Core book? Divs, before Pathfinder had Divs (Get of Iblis, Black Jinni, Ghalshoaton) Name: Get of Iblis - CR 13
Elevator Pitch:
So, this monster definitely needs a new name. But, WOW, this monster hunts and destroys all types of elementals. This would make a terrifying Div. Its abilities are spot on, but it needs a new appearance and new lore. Also, hide your Geniekin Characters!!!
Name: Genie, Black Jinni - CR 12
Elevator Pitch:
This creature's lore is far more suggestive of this being a Div. And honestly, we need more Divs, so let’s pick this low hanging fruit! Also, to see the Black Jinni getting some tweaks and an update to fit better into the setting would be great.
Name: Ghalshoaton - CR 9
Elevator Pitch:
Another great addition to the Divs, and the Ghalshoaton is basically already good to go. It needs a few minor lore tweaks, but that shouldn’t hold it back!
Aberrations, be afraid of the dark (Magga, Argorth, Snowdrifter, Emkrah, Black-Blooded Creatures). Name: Mother of Oblivion, Magga - CR 15
Elevator Pitch:
Argorth are the spawn of Maggas. Maggas are also known as Mothers of Oblivion, and the Magga known as Black Magga is particularly infamous in Varisia. When a Magga spawns, one of its tentacles becomes independent and ravenous. The Magga must chew off this tentacle to release its spawn. Surprisingly, Mothers of Oblivion or Maggas, have never been released as their own monster. Instead we have only gotten Black Magga. We have a pretty interesting life cycle for the Magga and Argorth already developed, and it would be great to see them finally updated and presented together as a creature family.
Name: Snowdrifter - CR 4
Elevator Pitch:
Snowdrifters are terrifying and should also be called the Breath of Ithaqua. Cosmic horror snow monsters please!!!
Name: Spawn of Rovagug, Emkrah - CR 9
Elevator Pitch:
To battle a Spawn of Rovagug is likely out of reach for most adventurers. However, these living eggs never hatch, but are still spawned from Rovagug. This allows Emkrah to be the perfect opportunity for adventurers to fight a Spawn of Rovagug. Also, the text indicates that there are also Emkrah that hatch but never develop into the mightiest Spawn of Rovagug, leaving the door open for Spawn of Rovagug in the level 10-19 range.
Name: Black-Blooded Creature - CR Varies
Elevator Pitch:
Okay, so these are pretty specific to Orv, so maybe not the best option for a more general monster book. But when we do get around to visiting the Darklands, this living infection that takes over mind and body would be a great monster.
Native species, animals of Golarion (Dhabba, Sand Eel, Sikari Swarm, Crag Spider, Chariot Beetle). Name: Dhabba - CR 1
Elevator Pitch:
Getting interesting and varied animals is always a plus. Especially when they are unique to a setting.
Name: Monkey, Sikari Macaque Swarm - CR 5
Elevator Pitch:
Sikari Rage is a disease that can either affect swarms, affect multiple individuals causing them to swarm, or both. Sikari Rage seems more like something that would work well with the Swarm and Troops creature categories. I don't think we have seen a swarm disease/troop disease before!.
Name: Spider, Crag Spider - CR 8
Elevator Pitch:
This is a species of Giant Spider, and happens to be the first species of Giant Spider that Paizo made for Pathfinder. It would be great to see this updated.
Name: Beetle, Azlanti Chariot Beetle - CR 5
Elevator Pitch:
This species of Giant Beetle is way overdue for graduation into a monster book. Flying beetle mounts with an ancient legacy from Azlant. Why were we getting the OGL slicer beetle when this was an option!
Constructed nightmares, don’t trust your senses (Granule Construct Swarm, Granule Construct Host, Tongue of Rebuke, Wings of Protection). Name: Granule Construct Swarm - CR 6
Elevator Pitch:
Microscopic constructs that were potentially created on Azlant and that have a hive mind situation going on. That is already crazy awesome, but then some people also actively encourage a Granule Construct Swarm to inhabit their body so that they and the swarm can live in a mutually beneficial symbiotic relationship!!! This isn’t just a cool monster, this is a Creature Construct Archetype similar to Creature Undead Archetypes. Do you want your humanoid character to also gain the construct trait? Just become a host to a Granule Construct Swarm.
Name: Tongue of Rebuke - CR 9
Elevator Pitch:
So, both the Tongue of Rebuke and the Wings of Protection are pretty odd in terms of what we might typically think of for constructs. However, I don't think we have ever seen much in terms of what a Fey construct might look like. Looking at these creatures as fey constructs makes them very interesting and opens all kinds of possibilities.
Dragons of the burning desert (Gandareva Azi, Sruvara Azi, Zahhhak Azi). Name: Azi, Gandareva - CR 16
Elevator Pitch:
Paizo has been hinting for a while that they plan to get back to the Azi. Lets pull that trigger already!!! I am looking forward to when that finally happens.
Once upon a time in the land of the First World (Frosty Chiseler, Miengu, Roseblood Sprite, Shadowy Lurker). Name: Frosty Chiseler - CR 4
Elevator Pitch:
This creature needs a new name. Otherwise, a fey creature that leaves frozen sculptures of flesh and viscera in boreal forests and on frozen tundras... this is a horror story and I need to know more!!!
Name: Miengu - CR 11
Elevator Pitch:
This is an awesome creature, but if we are getting back to mythology, I am not certain this is a Fey Creature. I am surprised we didn’t see Miengu show up when we were visiting the Mwangi Expanse. But hopefully they will show up when we visit central/southern Garund, if not before.
Name: Sprite, Roseblood Sprite - CR 3
Elevator Pitch:
The lore for these sprites could use some updating, but otherwise these are a great addition to sprites. Why don’t we have sprites that turn into rose bushes yet?!?! And they work really, really well when connected with the Eldest, The Green Mother.
Name: Shadowy Lurker - CR 8
Elevator Pitch:
Why are these Undead and not Fey? Long ago, a group of hubristic elven artists were tricked into going to the First World where they were corrupted into beings that can only appear in the Universe through fine art objects and are bound to an art object while manifested in the Universe. That's crazy awesome, and these should absolutely be fey and not undead!!!
A beast on the trail, a beast on your tail (Coeurl, Deep Crow, Buraq, Cinder Wolf, Darklands Sentinel, Ercinee, Hoary Muntjac). Name: Coeurl - CR 8
Elevator Pitch:
These are both used by permission only and cannot be updated without receiving permission.
Name: Buraq - CR 5
Elevator Pitch:
The Buraq, Shedu, and Lamassu are a ready made creature family, and with Paizo taking a closer look at mythology now is the perfect time to bring these three together.
Name: Cinder Wolf - CR 2
Elevator Pitch:
These fiery wolves add a nice twist to a standard wolf encounter. The only thing holding Cinder Wolves back is that, as far as we know, they are only found in and around the Cinderlands of the Storval Plateau.
Name: Darklands Sentinel - CR 2
Elevator Pitch:
Whose an adorable replacement for the blindheim, you're an adorable replacement for the blindheim!!! But you need a new name because Darklands Sentinel is not the best name for my cute darklands buddy.
Name: Ercinee - CR 4
Elevator Pitch:
Giant, glowing, magical, night bird. This bird is literally dripping alchemy and it's awesome! Also, its description mentions that it is also called an Alicanto, which I think was a typo, and that it meant to say the bigger, even more alchemical species is called an Alicanto.
Name: Hoary Muntjac - CR 3
Elevator Pitch:
This one is an interesting case. The Hoary Muntjac is essentially a magical arctic wolfdeer. The creature feels like it should be in a Peryton creature family. Even if the Peryton and Hoary Muntjac have different abilities, their goals and appearance are very similar. It probably should get a new name, something like Peryjac or Hoaryton would be a simple way to tie the two creatures together and to harken back to the original name of hoary muntjac.
Within the depths of the fiendish realms (Xenarth, Chatterer Swarm, Crepitus, Nightmare Bats, Son of Perdition). Name: Xenarth - CR 10
Elevator Pitch:
The Xenarth demons have previously been overlooked, but it would be great to see them get additional consideration. While initially designed off the Bulette, they are true demons. It would be great to see them distanced from the Bulette so they stand on their own as gluttonous demons.
Name: Chatterer Swarm - CR 8
Elevator Pitch:
That the Chatterer Swarm has not yet been added to the Vescavor creature family is a missed opportunity. Whereas the weaker Vescavor Swarm attempts to devour objects, the more deadly Chatterer Swarm attempts to devour flesh. And of course both swarms are directed by a Vescavor Queen.
Name: Crepitus - CR 5
Elevator Pitch:
Similar to the Divs, this is an Asura before Pathfinder had Asuras. We don’t have an Asura that represents the first Divine spell failure, and these could easily fill that role. Spells that fail against them are turned back against the caster. These make for great low level bosses and as support for more powerful Asura.
Name: Nightmare Bats - CR 3
Elevator Pitch:
These are almost an interesting creature and could easily be made awesome. They desperately need to be renamed Hellbats. Also, they would make great hell mounts. Why don’t we have the option to ride vulture-bats from Hell!
Name: Son of Perdition - CR 13
Elevator Pitch:
Demons are not usually the fiends people think of when possession is involved. However, these would make for perfect possession demons. And their lore already fits this perfectly. But, oh buddy, do they need a name update.
On distant planes they wander (Shadowgarm, Zhyen Genie, Hadhayosh, Achaekek the Mantis God). Name: Shadowgarm - CR 2
Elevator Pitch:
These are great low level shadow monsters from the Netherworld. Not sure they are aberrations though. Also, it is already baked into their lore that they "leak" into the Universe. This makes them really versatile, allowing them to show up almost anywhere.
Name: Genie, Zhyen - CR ½
Elevator Pitch:
Surprise! I think this has been updated as the Gennayn Genie. My only hesitation is that the Jocta was not mentioned, but maybe that will be explored later. Can anyone confirm if the Gennayn Genie is an updated Zhyen Genie?
Name: Hadhayosh - CR 18
Elevator Pitch:
Giant fire/beast/elemental that roams the Plane of Fire... Yes Please!!! Also, add a large size version that is slightly less fiery that is a domestic breed found on Golarion. Are you thinking The Last Unicorn elemental fire bull, cause I am!
Name: Achaekek, the Mantis God - CR 30
Elevator Pitch:
Not sure this is appropriate for an update, unless as a very powerful Avatar.
Be you friend or be you foe (Wooden Protector, Unchosen Gnoll).[/b] Name: Wooden Protector - CR 3
Elevator Pitch:
This would be a perfect lower level Arboreal. If you are looking for Arboreal Knights, look no further. Alternatively, if you stuck closer to their original lore, these are a very minor form of Greenman Leshy.
Name: Gnoll, Unchosen - CR 4
Elevator Pitch:
The Unchosen brings some exciting options to the Kholo that can easily be supported by Ancestry Feats. Kholos who undergo the Ritual; Growing of the Third Eye, open their minds and bodies to experiences that are unique to Kholo. Kholo who undergo this Ritual could gain access to Ancestry Feats like: Foresighted, Deathwatch, Large Size. While followers of Lamashtu consider this ritual as a gift from their goddess and perform it on both willing and unwilling Kholo, the ritual is not unique to Lamashtu. In Katapesh an alchemical method of reproducing the effects of the ritual has been developed. However, unlike the ritual, which slowly transforms a Kholo over time, the alchemical method is instantaneous, shattering the mind of the recipient. This turns the Kholo into a vicious predator that can avoid danger and smell the life force of its prey. Not surprisingly, the servants of Lamashtu are distinctly interested in this alchemical transformation.
The dead have died, the dead will rise, the dead will come again (Bloodless Vessel, Bonestorm, Croaker, Edimmu, Fell Flotsam, Gutdragging Lurcher, Hungry Mist, Necropyre, Smoke Haunt, Sea-Sworn). Name: Bloodless Vessel - CR 12
Elevator Pitch:
Bloodless are incredibly interesting and powerful undead. I am actually surprised Paizo hasn't done more with these. They do need their lore freshened up a bit, but that shouldn't hold them back. Also, they are a perfect fit for the new Spirit mechanics.
Name: Bonestorm - CR 8
Elevator Pitch:
On battlefields where mass casualties have occurred, the marrow and bones of the restless dead can stitch and fuse together. The lingering spirits, massing together in their shared trauma to animate the undead bone and marrow monstrosity. Often we see corpses fusing together to form collective undead, and this makes for a nice twist, focusing on the bones instead of flesh.
Name: Croaker - CR 5
Elevator Pitch:
Croakers are really interesting for undead. Croakers were pushing the boundaries of not so evil undead very early in Pathfinder. Croakers are undead that arise because in life they were individuals that were intentionally targeted by a corrupt justice system. Hung from the gallows for crimes that their persecutors knew they didn’t commit, Croakers arise to take vengeance on those who murdered them out of convenience rather than justice. Croakers are a great example of undead that should not have the Unholy Trait. And they are a perfect option for murder mysteries or crime solving adventures.
Name: Edimmu - CR 3
Elevator Pitch:
While we did get the Ghul in 2E we did not get the Great Ghul yet. While a Ghul is a basic undead genie, Great Ghuls retain more of their elemental nature. This allows the Ghul to be expanded into a creature family with each Great Ghul matching closer to the genie it spawned from.
The Edimmu gives us an incorporeal undead genie option. And we definitely need more undead genie options! The Edimmu could also easily be expanded into a creature family based on the different genie types. Because the Edimmu and Ghul are so different in form and abilities, between the two, we could easily have a robust group of undead genies. Name: Fell Flotsam - CR 6
Elevator Pitch:
I kind of have a soft spot for these ooze-like undead. The Fell Flotsam is just waiting to be combined into a creature family with the Flotsam Terror, both of which are water based ooze like undead, but with very different abilities.
Name: Gutdragging Lurcher - CR 3
Elevator Pitch:
The name for these undead could be updated, but otherwise gut puppets! Why don't we see more gut puppet undead!!!
Name: Hungry Mist - CR 14
Elevator Pitch:
I don't know if Paizo even realizes they already have a replacement for the Caller in Darkness. Hungry mists are a perfectly terrifying medium to high level undead. And as a bonus, it already covers similar themes to the Caller in Darkness.
Name: Necropyre - CR Varies
Elevator Pitch:
Necropyre are very cool undead, but they are pretty specific in their origin and would be very rare outside of the adventure in which they appear.
Name: Smoke Haunt - CR 4
Elevator Pitch:
Undead formed from those that died from exposure in the wilderness. These undead will hide in your campfire and pretend to warm you up while draining your life away. These undead are deceptively terrifying, and also the perfect random encounter for adventurers camping in the wilderness!
Name: Sea-Sworn - CR Varies
Elevator Pitch: Okay, so this one is a bit specific to the Chelish Navy. But, cursed aquatic undead, created through a ritual, and bound in service to the Chelsh Navy! I need a High Seas adventure where a Chelish warship is deploying these undead with gruesome effectiveness.
Back Matter Hopes In addition to getting the Remastered Red Mantis Assassin Archetype, I hope we will seen the return of some of the other Red Mantis options we had from 1E. I have collected many, if not all, of those game elements from 1E that explicitly have a Red Mantis Assassin association below. A few of the things listed below had already appeared in 2E such as the Red Mantis Archetype and the Sawtooth Sabre. 1E Red Mantis Prestige Classes and Archetypes
1E Red Mantis Feats and Traits
Magic Items and Weapons
Spells and Poisons
Deity, NPCs, and Monsters
Personally, I am struggling to understand the specific goals for The Story So Far. For example, Half-Orc and Dromaar: Is it appropriate to bring up that, in setting the ancestral name for Half-Orcs has always been known as Dromaar, even if in real life we have only recently been introduced to their ancestral name. As a result, in older Pathfinder gaming material, for the most part, anywhere the term Half-Orc is used, it can be replaced with Dromaar. Is the above part of the goals for The Story So Far? Or am I missing the mark?
My apologies for not getting the intent for The Story So Far, but I am happy to help if I can.
I thought it might be useful to include the conversation that lead to this thread. I like the idea of the community working together to help identify changes/updates/outcomes in the story so far. The context for this thread and an indication of its goals are below:
This is precisely the type of thing that's a great community project. And I'm not really the one to jump in to tell you if you're off track anymore... that's a Luis Loza thing, since he's the creative director for the rules and lore. I'm just the creative director for adventures these days.
In the 1st Edition book "Aquatic Adventures" the Okaiyo Ocean is described as being difficult too cross as the central Okaiyo Ocean regularly experiences two different extremes. The winds can be so extreme that they can snap a ships mast or the doldrums occur where there is so little wind that a ship will sit unmoving for weeks or more than a month. There is even a brief tale about a ship traveling between Arcadia and Tian Xia that got caught in the doldrums. After 18-19 days of being stuck unmoving in the ocean, one of the passengers went mad and started murdering everyone on board. Several people were murdered before the crew cut down the crazed passenger. Interestingly, the passenger was traveling to study ruins in the Valashmai Jungle. Although not explicitly stated, this indicates that the passenger was traveling from Arcadia to Tian Xia.
This is fun to think about, what kind of names... The Pale Sea
Please keep a healthy balance of work, sanity, and health. I prefer the wonderful folks at Paizo not drown.
Awesome, thank you!
If you scroll to the bottom of any paizo.com webpage you will find the Contact Us link. That should get you going in the right direction.
Do you remember where? Did it have a description or just stats? I would love to take a look, but not a big deal if you don't remember.
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