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It was a bit weird to play the only human in our RotRL party (the others being widely not CRB ancestries) while we interacted with mostly human or CRB populations that often did not even bat an eye at the wooden living construct or the flying Sprite.
Very much a party of special snowflakes that should not really have been able to easily blend in with the crowd.
One of the nice things about the Impossible Lands is that this sort of thing feels much more natural. When undead make most of your food, demon lords are openly revered in Nex, and people like Ghorans and Nagaji are relatively commonplace, nobody's going to raise an eyebrow at your motley adventuring party.
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With the Travel Guide out in the wild in earnest, this is the next Lost Omens book on the docket - and I'm SO excited!
But, for how close it's to release (a little over 2 months), I feel like we still have a rather loose grasp on the exact contents of the book (especially given the size - it's almost 350 pages!), though a lot could be extrapolated from how something like LO: Mwangi Expanse was structured.
I'd be delighted if we could be blessed with another early table of contents tease...
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With the Travel Guide out in the wild in earnest, this is the next Lost Omens book on the docket - and I'm SO excited!
But, for how close it's to release (a little over 2 months), I feel like we still have a rather loose grasp on the exact contents of the book (especially given the size - it's almost 350 pages!), though a lot could be extrapolated from how something like LO: Mwangi Expanse was structured.
I'd be delighted if we could be blessed with another early table of contents tease...
Seconding this! We know the five Ancestries in the book, we know what regions it covers, and we can reasonably believe there’ll be new deities… and that’s about it! I’m dying to know what parts I should be looking forward to.
Incredibly excited for it! The big Lost Omens setting books have become an annual highlight. I’ve got high hopes for cracking open an Arcadia book someday…
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Haha, I love your collective insatiable desire for more Lost Omens. We just released the Travel Guide days ago to great acclaim and you’re banging in the table for the next Lost Omens release. Meanwhile, I’m literally looking at the gorgeous Impossible Lands PDF on Labor Day weekend trying to keep up and learn what the Devs have made and how to promote it. Of course it’s going to be it’s own sizable campaign setting, just like the City of Absalom and Mwangi Expanse. You want high dark fantasy and steampunk together? You have reason to be excited, just give us a minute to transition.
Happy Labor Day!
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We are undead, and our undead hunger is for more Lost Omens books.
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You will give me Droon.
The Travel Guide taunted me once more, and I imagine the Impossible Kingdoms with have some mention of trade with Southern Garund and so help me I will have the PREMIERE NATION OF IRUXI DAMN IT!
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You will give me Droon.
The Travel Guide taunted me once more, and I imagine the Impossible Kingdoms with have some mention of trade with Southern Garund and so help me I will have the PREMIERE NATION OF IRUXI DAMN IT!
I don't know that Droon even touches the Impossible Lands - but it might be next to Holomog, Geb's neighbor to the south, who is getting an article in Blood Lords #3. Make sure that does well, so we can see Southern Garund someday!
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Haha, I love your collective insatiable desire for more Lost Omens. We just released the Travel Guide days ago to great acclaim and you’re banging in the table for the next Lost Omens release. Meanwhile, I’m literally looking at the gorgeous Impossible Lands PDF on Labor Day weekend trying to keep up and learn what the Devs have made and how to promote it. Of course it’s going to be it’s own sizable campaign setting, just like the City of Absalom and Mwangi Expanse. You want high dark fantasy and steampunk together? You have reason to be excited, just give us a minute to transition.
Happy Labor Day!
Apologies for the rabid desire, Aaron! I hope you know I'm nowhere near unsatisfied with what we get.
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Apologies for the rabid desire, Aaron! I hope you know I'm nowhere near unsatisfied with what we get.Haha, I love your collective insatiable desire for more Lost Omens. We just released the Travel Guide days ago to great acclaim and you’re banging in the table for the next Lost Omens release. Meanwhile, I’m literally looking at the gorgeous Impossible Lands PDF on Labor Day weekend trying to keep up and learn what the Devs have made and how to promote it. Of course it’s going to be it’s own sizable campaign setting, just like the City of Absalom and Mwangi Expanse. You want high dark fantasy and steampunk together? You have reason to be excited, just give us a minute to transition.
Happy Labor Day!
Haha, never apologize for that. Reading a Lost Omens book by the pool while prepping to share it all with you you is the gift you give me. :)
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Blood Lords #3, Field of Maidens, seems to hint at something really juicy.
From Grace "the Rhino" Owano's Campaign Role section:
Many had fancied Ten Lives to be immortal and her death was a tremendous blow to the militia’s morale. The power vacuum created within leaderless Nwanyi province further demoralized the dejected residents of Anuli. Now in command, Grace looked to Geb. War would reinvigorate Nwanyi, she knew. The nation would pull together, gain support from newly ascendant Nex, and receive the appointment of a new war omwa. Grace doesn’t desire that position for herself, but wants more than anything for her nation to cease its squabbling. She’s in a position to provide it, even at the cost of her life, so she marched in Omwa Slash’s footsteps toward Geb and the Field of Maidens.
(Emphasis mine.)
It would seem that Nex is in fact back in charge (at the time of this AP, no less), much how Geb is once again at the helm of his own nation - and I'm all for impending/cold war between those slumbering superpowers really causing a regional stir.
It also calls for a stat block from this book, which obviously isn't out yet, but James Jacobs has graciously provided it in the BL #3 product thread.
It's for stone sisters, animated statues of the Holoma warrior-women in the Field of Maidens. (Though a lot of them are 'just' petrified statues at this point.)
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It's bit confusing because Nex and Geb ARE name of nation ya know so its hard at time to tell when they talk about person and when about country
I can’t think of much other reason for the nation of Nex to be “ascendant” unless something has positively changed for them. Given all the teases (the fleshforges starting on their own, etc), I’m reasonably sure Nex the mage is going to be back in LOIL.
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Plus, having Nex back adds some valuable tension to the Impossible Lands - otherwise, it’s “the place where a big war happened thousands of years ago.” I’d welcome a cold war of some sort; there’s a surprising amount of espionage theming in the region already.
I think it's better if the reason behind Nex the country being on the rise stays mysterious.
If Nex the guy comes out in the open, it would become a really hot war really quick.
Things have been mysterious in Nex for the three years since LOWG came out. I'd welcome a shakeup in LOIL.
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Third Base!
I understood that reference.
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Back cover text:
"Embrace the Unnatural
A war between two undying wizards raged on for thousands of years. Though peace has now reigned for millennia, the ghosts of their atrocities still haunt every corner of the land they touched. Everyday people live their day-to-day in a land that defies logic, praying the specters of history won’t rise again to plunge them back into chaos and carnage. Explore a world where cities are built on foundations of genies and wishes, where undead legions clash against titanic war engines forged from flesh. Travel a region where magic still writhes and roils from the wounds inflicted on it, from the cavern depths where all spells lie dead to the scarred desert where the slightest arcane spark can erupt into a maelstrom. Can your heroes make their mark on a land ruled by the cruel egos of so many others, in the heart of the Impossible Lands?"
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Which of the five coming Ancestries (Ghoran, Kashrishi, Nagaji, Vanara, and Vishkanya) are folks most eager for?
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Which of the five coming Ancestries (Ghoran, Kashrishi, Nagaji, Vanara, and Vishkanya) are folks most eager for?
Probably Kashrishi, because they are entirely new. I'm quite excited for the four returning, though.
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I really wanna see the Nagaji overhaul, wasn't really a fan of them in P1.
I have really high hopes for them. Naga are just so strange, and a people made to live in symbiosis with them (but fully capable of rebellion and overthrowing them, with most trying to genuinely find a harmonious balance) is fascinating. Assuming they remain +STR +CHA, they'll make great Champions, which is really fun flavor.
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I just finished my second session of a sort of hybrid AP and free form campaign based around BLood Lords, I am absolutely salivating for this book to give me ideas for side quests. The hype is real.
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We are most excited for the Vanara and Ghoran. The others look really cool too though.
I can't believe this one is a month out, now. Time flies.
Of the major regions - Alkenstar and the Mana Wastes, Geb, Jalmeray, and Nex - which are folks looking forward to the most?
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I can't believe this one is a month out, now. Time flies.
Of the major regions - Alkenstar and the Mana Wastes, Geb, Jalmeray, and Nex - which are folks looking forward to the most?
I love the mana waste (funnily, I'm only "semi" a fan of Alkenstar. I like the "steampunk" feel, but I don't like the "cowboy" feel that is also there). I'm very interested on learning about the other though. :O
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I love the mana waste (funnily, I'm only "semi" a fan of Alkenstar. I like the "steampunk" feel, but I don't like the "cowboy" feel that is also there). I'm very interested on learning about the other though. :OI can't believe this one is a month out, now. Time flies.
Of the major regions - Alkenstar and the Mana Wastes, Geb, Jalmeray, and Nex - which are folks looking forward to the most?
I'm broadly in the same boat, given that all of the cowboy elements and naming conventions don't seem to have risen from any of the cultures in the area. Here's hoping this book breaks new ground there, even if it does retroactively make Outlaws of Alkenstar feel a little funny. But ancient ruins, magic gone feral, gnolls and mutants? I eat all that up.
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More on the Mana Wastes would be great. Kinda interested in more on Jalmeray too. :-)
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More on the Mana Wastes would be great. Kinda interested in more on Jalmeray too. :-)
Jalmeray is what I'm most curious about, because I (embarrassingly!) know almost nothing about South Asian history and mythology, so getting a foot in the door via fantasy has me really excited! One of the few things I do know about Jalmeray is about their psychic spy school, the Conservatory on Grand Sarret, which is... honestly the coolest character origin I can imagine?
I'm a little out of the loop on this one, not sure if this has really been divulged - how rules heavy is this book? Is it closer to Mwangi expanse or closer to ancestry guide? Do we have an idea of how many character options it will contain?
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More on the Mana Wastes would be great. Kinda interested in more on Jalmeray too. :-)Jalmeray is what I'm most curious about, because I (embarrassingly!) know almost nothing about South Asian history and mythology, so getting a foot in the door via fantasy has me really excited! One of the few things I do know about Jalmeray is about their psychic spy school, the Conservatory on Grand Sarret, which is... honestly the coolest character origin I can imagine?
I was the very same about South Asian culture, until, and yesh, I'm a bit ashamed that it took this to kick my butt into learning more, until Ms. Marvel introduced lot of info, like the history lesson about the partition of India. I made it my goal to watch reactions to the episodes from South Asian fans, and I specifically loved the ones that expanded more on the culture, and the variations they grew up with. So yeah, I'm curious how they will integrate that stuff. (It also made me way more interested in them going into the whole continent of Casmaron... This is a "niche" that is WAY too scarcely touched upon in the TTRPG space imho. an dthe ones that do it well are EVEN RARER.)
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I'm a little out of the loop on this one, not sure if this has really been divulged - how rules heavy is this book? Is it closer to Mwangi expanse or closer to ancestry guide? Do we have an idea of how many character options it will contain?
This is not 100% the same exact formula than Mwangi, BUT it's in the same "sub series" of books that explore a region, so the "ratio" should be similar. We know there are ancestries that fit the region.
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There have been hints that this will have more rules content than similar regional overview sourcebooks like Mwangi Expanse and Absalom City of Lost Omens (as those were very recurring criticisms of both), though we don't have too much of an insight into the specifics yet.
Hoping for some juicy previews of this this month - I hope there'll be a Paizo Live this month to feature it on, though I wouldn't mind Influencer Preview-Reviews either.
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I'd say it lands somewhere between Mwangi Expanse and Ancestry Guide.
Mwangi Expanse had about 54 dedicated pages of rules plus a few more pages' worth scattered about in the form of feats, a sorcerer bloodline, settlement statblocks, and so on. This count includes the likes of ancestry and deity writeups, which don't dedicate 100% of their word count to new mechanics, but I consider them all part of a complete entry, so I counted them as full pages.
Impossible Lands has about 84 pages of dedicated rules plus its additional scattered mechanics throughout the book.
It's not quite the ratio of rules to lore that Ancestry Guide or Grand Bazaar were, but it definitely has a solid showing in the mechanics department!
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We are undead, and our undead hunger is for more Lost Omens books.
Boooooooooksssss!
I'm a little out of the loop on this one, not sure if this has really been divulged - how rules heavy is this book? Is it closer to Mwangi expanse or closer to ancestry guide? Do we have an idea of how many character options it will contain?
I think the main mechanical options we know for sure about are five Ancestries, four returning (Ghoran, Nagaji, Vanara, Vishkanya) and one new (Kashrishi).
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Hoping for some juicy previews of this this month - I hope there'll be a Paizo Live this month to feature it on, though I wouldn't mind Influencer Preview-Reviews either.
Oh lord, I hope we get a Paizo LIVE this month. LO:IL has gotten next-to-no previews outside of the PaizoCon coverage, and I'm desperate to know anything about what's inside.
At the very least, could we PLEASE get the ability boosts for the new ancestries? I missed getting hyped for new ancestries in the past and speculating based on knowing the ability boosts beforehand.
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Hoping for some juicy previews of this this month - I hope there'll be a Paizo Live this month to feature it on, though I wouldn't mind Influencer Preview-Reviews either.Oh lord, I hope we get a Paizo LIVE this month. LO:IL has gotten next-to-no previews outside of the PaizoCon coverage, and I'm desperate to know anything about what's inside.
At the very least, could we PLEASE get the ability boosts for the new ancestries? I missed getting hyped for new ancestries in the past and speculating based on knowing the ability boosts beforehand.
They’ve played this book pretty close to the chest so far; Paizocon didn’t have much to say, or any new art to show. Here’s hoping they pull the curtain back some.
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Hoping for some juicy previews of this this month - I hope there'll be a Paizo Live this month to feature it on, though I wouldn't mind Influencer Preview-Reviews either.Oh lord, I hope we get a Paizo LIVE this month. LO:IL has gotten next-to-no previews outside of the PaizoCon coverage, and I'm desperate to know anything about what's inside.
At the very least, could we PLEASE get the ability boosts for the new ancestries? I missed getting hyped for new ancestries in the past and speculating based on knowing the ability boosts beforehand.
Oh, I know that one!
Hit Points: 8
Size: Medium
Ability Boosts: Constitution, Free
Languages: Common, Sylvan, additional languages
Traits: Ghoran, Humanoid, Plant
Low-light Vision
Photosynthesis
Hit Points: 8
Size: Small
Ability Boosts: Constitution, Free
Languages: Common, Kashrishi, additional languages
Traits: Humanoid, Kashrishi
Empathic Sense
Glowing Horn
Hit Points: 10
Size: Medium
Ability Boosts: Strength, Free
Languages: Common, Nagaji, additional languages
Traits: Humanoid, Nagaji
Low-light Vision
Fangs
Hit Points: 6
Size: Medium
Ability Boosts: Dexterity, Free
Languages: Common, Vanara, additional languages
Traits: Humanoid, Vanara
Prehensile Tail
Hit Points: 8
Size: Medium
Ability Boosts: Dexterity, Free
Languages: Common, Vishkanya, additional languages
Traits: Humanoid, Vishkanya
Low-light Vision
Innate Venom
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Oh, I know that one!
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Thanks, Luis! Interesting to not see a single Ability Flaw in the bunch - that’s very handy. Nagaji with +STR and 10HP helps a lot with the dearth of big boys in PF2.
I can’t wait for the book! I can’t begin to imagine Heritages for most of these, so I’m excited to see what comes.
Nagaji having a lower Rarity than most of the others has some very fun implications.
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I'm honestly bit sad at lack of ability flaws since I find ancestries with those much more fun to build character around :'D Party because of three ability boosts party because of how big mechanical impact the -1 has
I'm happy to not see any here, honestly - I find them annoying.
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Really disliking the lack of three boosts and a flaw, they were very handy for broadening a character build and shoring up some weaknesses. Also means the two boost characters have to compete with the raw power of humans or the extra stats of the three boosts and a flaw.
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Hoping for some juicy previews of this this month - I hope there'll be a Paizo Live this month to feature it on, though I wouldn't mind Influencer Preview-Reviews either.Oh lord, I hope we get a Paizo LIVE this month. LO:IL has gotten next-to-no previews outside of the PaizoCon coverage, and I'm desperate to know anything about what's inside.
At the very least, could we PLEASE get the ability boosts for the new ancestries? I missed getting hyped for new ancestries in the past and speculating based on knowing the ability boosts beforehand.
Oh, I know that one!
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Thank you as always for letting us know these details, Luis! I'm now psyched to see what these ancestries have to offer. Hopefully we'll learn more of the non-ancestry rules in the next Paizo Live. :V
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Hoping for some juicy previews of this this month - I hope there'll be a Paizo Live this month to feature it on, though I wouldn't mind Influencer Preview-Reviews either.Oh lord, I hope we get a Paizo LIVE this month. LO:IL has gotten next-to-no previews outside of the PaizoCon coverage, and I'm desperate to know anything about what's inside.
At the very least, could we PLEASE get the ability boosts for the new ancestries? I missed getting hyped for new ancestries in the past and speculating based on knowing the ability boosts beforehand.
Oh, I know that one!
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Can ghoran PC still be delicious? It's not a base trait. Maybe an heritage? :thinking: