Pathfinder Lost Omens: Impossible Lands

Aaron Shanks wrote:

Ed Reppert wrote:

Like what?

You used symbols like $, ~, and % as a profanity proxy and hid it in the spoiler. We have specific rules against that:

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You may have been trying to be witty, we don't know your intent, but we need to maintain the policy. You can repost to make your point without the proxy.

Just for the sake of fairness, can you not claim it’s the posters that are trying to get around the No profanity rule when it’s the Paizo site that is obscuring the word?

I flagged the original post because of the content, I have no reason not to believe they didn’t type out the actual word.

For clarity, I did not remove the OP. I am playing detective trying to answer why it was removed. Did our site change an actual profanity post or or did the OP use a proxy? I don't know, but neither are allowed. Does that make sense?

Yes, the site has a "profanity obscuring" feature. If you type out a forbidden word, the site automatically changes it to a proxy.

You can try it yourself. Post a profanity without symbols, and see how the site displays it.

Yes, the site has a "profanity obscuring" feature. If you type out a forbidden word, the site automatically changes it to a proxy.

You can try it yourself. Post a profanity without symbols, and see how the site displays it.

No need. I think we have clarity. Thanks.

And after that, experiment with the infamous "avatar replacement" feature.

like the famous Murfreesboro sign

Since I've not yet received my shipping email yet, can anyone spoiler a list of the deities in this book?

Does the policy understand the difference between profanity and obscenity?

Aaron, you need to edit my name out of your "you used..." post.

Is there a meaningful difference?

Patrickthekid wrote:

I'm glad we're getting new deities from Vudra. Sadly it looks like the main ones Vudravati, Obari and Embaral were left out. Hoping for that Vudra book then.

No Obari is a huge bummer, but I'm thoroughly confused by no Nalinivati in the book. Both would've been really good fits for all the inevitable Nagaji Champions we'll see.

Caught a peek at the Nagaji section and it actually says “Nagaji overwhelmingly worship Nalinivati,” and that “Ravithra shouldn’t be troubled with mortal adherents,” so I’m even more confused why Ravithra is in this book but Nalinivati isn’t. Are the Nagaji in Jalmeray not assumed to be part of the overwhelming majority, and are some sort of weird schismatic community?

Can anyone share the list of creatures in the Bestiary Section? I am really hoping for a Canon Golem or similar.

keftiu wrote:

Patrickthekid wrote:

I'm glad we're getting new deities from Vudra. Sadly it looks like the main ones Vudravati, Obari and Embaral were left out. Hoping for that Vudra book then.

No Obari is a huge bummer, but I'm thoroughly confused by no Nalinivati in the book. Both would've been really good fits for all the inevitable Nagaji Champions we'll see.

Caught a peek at the Nagaji section and it actually says “Nagaji overwhelmingly worship Nalinivati,” and that “Ravithra shouldn’t be troubled with mortal adherents,” so I’m even more confused why Ravithra is in this book but Nalinivati isn’t. Are the Nagaji in Jalmeray not assumed to be part of the overwhelming majority, and are some sort of weird schismatic community?

I guess nagaji in Jalmerey or Vudra might have immigrated from Nagajor or something?

Aaron, you need to edit my name out of your "you used..." post.

Happy to. I don't have edit privileges after 1 hour, so that is why I posted a clarity post, but I'll get as coworker to edit it.

Since I've not yet received my shipping email yet, can anyone spoiler a list of the deities in this book?

Can anyone share the list of creatures in the Bestiary Section? I am really hoping for a Canon Golem or similar.

So what IS up with Ratajin and the whole curse twisted thing?

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Huh, interesting that kashirki have heritage that gives them extra pair of climbing arms :O

The Kashrishi are *way* weirder than I thought they'd be, I dig it.

Also looking at one of the main factions in the Mana Wastes, I'm surprised to see hints of Hispanic theming.

While I’m whining about this Religion chapter, I’m really bummed Abraxas (whose cult openly operates in Nex and has considerable power) didn’t get a page, especially after we saw a powerful fey got one in Knights of Lastwall.

Everything else seems to be awesome (I haven’t gotten my hands on the PDF, but love all the stuff I’ve seen!), but this part is definitely a miss for me.

While I’m whining about this Religion chapter, I’m really bummed Abraxas (whose cult openly operates in Nex and has considerable power) didn’t get a page, especially after we saw a powerful fey got one in Knights of Lastwall.

Everything else seems to be awesome (I haven’t gotten my hands on the PDF, but love everything), but this part is definitely a miss for me.

Abraxas is mentioned 10 times, including in a sidebar of it's own. (Consolation Prize?)

I hope mine ships soon!

I definitely need to counterbalance my negativity here - I promise, I like this book!

Nagaji have shot up to near the top of my favorite Ancestries in the game, and provide a much needed “big boy” option for people tired of Iruxi and Orcs. All of their art is gorgeous, but the Titan Nagaji especially, and the extra-noodley NPC Nagaji who gets a portrait.

I definitely need to counterbalance my negativity here - I promise, I like this book!

Nagaji have shot up to near the top of my favorite Ancestries in the game, and provide a much needed “big boy” option for people tired of Iruxi and Orcs. All of their art is gorgeous, but the Titan Nagaji especially, and the extra-noodley NPC Nagaji who gets a portrait.

yay!

Does this book touch on Vudran/Jalmeri castes at all? I haven't seen any of that in the bits I've had a look at.

Does this book touch on Vudran/Jalmeri castes at all? I haven't seen any of that in the bits I've had a look at.

Yes; castes are mentioned a fair bit in the Jalmeray section, though it is clearly portrayed as a cultural concept that is starting to fade in importance in Jalmeray.

The rakshasa section mentions castes and even has a sidebar specifically about their own castes.

The nagaji mention castes once, but only to say, "Nagaji mostly eschew the human concept of castes..." It goes on a bit from there to clarify their point of view, but I don't think I should spoil the rest of the paragraph.

I do little bit worry sometimes of Paizo is going to homogenize various cultures, but overally super hyped from preview :3

Interestingly, the timeline seems to show the earliest specific date in the setting so far, albeit a presumably approximate one: the Statue Builder culture existing by -7000 AR. It's neat to have some lore for the pre-Osirion impossible lands.

Edit: Also this book's art is gorgeous!

Okay, so I can't possibly be the only person who thinks that the person pictured on page 13 is really

I mean, the picture and the write-up track much too well for them to be anybody else.

Okay, so I can't possibly be the only person who thinks that the person pictured on page 13 is really ** spoiler omitted **

I mean, the picture and the write-up track much too well for them to be anybody else.

That character sounds much more like a very powerful Urgathoan than the goddess herself, especially considering that she was allegedly defeated by pharaohs and bound under the Mana Wastes.

Evan Tarlton wrote:

Okay, so I can't possibly be the only person who thinks that the person pictured on page 13 is really ** spoiler omitted **

I mean, the picture and the write-up track much too well for them to be anybody else.

That character sounds much more like a very powerful Urgathoan than the goddess herself, especially considering that she was allegedly defeated by pharaohs and bound under the Mana Wastes.

I had considered that, but the use of allegedly and their not mentioning that she was an Urgathoan makes me suspicious. It's probably one of those things they're leaving to us, but still.

keftiu wrote:

Patrickthekid wrote:

I'm glad we're getting new deities from Vudra. Sadly it looks like the main ones Vudravati, Obari and Embaral were left out. Hoping for that Vudra book then.

No Obari is a huge bummer, but I'm thoroughly confused by no Nalinivati in the book. Both would've been really good fits for all the inevitable Nagaji Champions we'll see.

Caught a peek at the Nagaji section and it actually says “Nagaji overwhelmingly worship Nalinivati,” and that “Ravithra shouldn’t be troubled with mortal adherents,” so I’m even more confused why Ravithra is in this book but Nalinivati isn’t. Are the Nagaji in Jalmeray not assumed to be part of the overwhelming majority, and are some sort of weird schismatic community?

A further wrinkle (and the last I'll say on this, I promise): the one Nagaji community we see in-depth within this book... are outcasts who worship Obari! So both the traditional deity of the Nagaji and the deity of the Nagaji we meet here are absent, but the goddess they explicitly try to avoid bothering makes it into the Religion chapter. It's a little disorienting to be in the dark on these deities when the Nagaji's whole schtick is their devotion.

I would've much rather seen Nalinivati or Obari get a page, rather than Ravithra's second 2e printing and Arazni's third. I don't really understand the choice, and would love a peek behind the curtain at the thought process, if it's not too much trouble.

I just subscribed today for this, does this mean I get the pdf now? I want the hardcopy too but I really kind of need the pdf before my Friday game this week.

I just subscribed today for this, does this mean I get the pdf now? I want the hardcopy too but I really kind of need the pdf before my Friday game this week.

You get the free .PDF once your book is shipped. The shipping window right now for pre-release date for subscribers is slated to end by Thursday, November 10th, although delays are not uncommon at all.

At worst, you might need to delay the game by a week. Fingers crossed!

Aaagh! OK thanks, fingers crossed.

just checking in, because I forgot when the pdf buy is active (living in EU, so print is a no no for me thanks to shipping). Was hoping a pdf subscription option would come available after the pdf price changes, so I wouldn't have to check (for AP and lost omens mainly).

…y’know, if I’m feeling conspiratorial, I might say Nalinivati’s absence here would make a lot of sense if we were seeing Vudra or Nagajor/Tian Xia relatively soon.

Just a thought.

…y’know, if I’m feeling conspiratorial, I might say Nalinivati’s absence here would make a lot of sense if we were seeing Vudra or Nagajor/Tian Xia relatively soon.

Just a thought.

To be fair, there is a profile on them with stats and everything in the Agents of Edgewatch AP. It would have been nice to have some notes in their presence in the area, though. Regardless, their absence doesn't hurt as much as Vudravati, Obari and Embaral, likely the big three for Vudra.

keftiu wrote:

…y’know, if I’m feeling conspiratorial, I might say Nalinivati’s absence here would make a lot of sense if we were seeing Vudra or Nagajor/Tian Xia relatively soon.

Just a thought.

To be fair, there is a profile on them with stats and everything in the Agents of Edgewatch AP. It would have been nice to have some notes in their presence in the area, though. Regardless, their absence doesn't hurt as much as Vudravati, Obari and Embaral, likely the big three for Vudra.

Ravithra is the one with an Agents of Edgewatch article, not Nalinivati. That's a big part of the reason I'm confused the former got a page in this book and the latter didn't - we've already seen Ravithra in 2e, in a pretty lavish treatment.

Patrickthekid wrote:

keftiu wrote:

…y’know, if I’m feeling conspiratorial, I might say Nalinivati’s absence here would make a lot of sense if we were seeing Vudra or Nagajor/Tian Xia relatively soon.

Just a thought.

To be fair, there is a profile on them with stats and everything in the Agents of Edgewatch AP. It would have been nice to have some notes in their presence in the area, though. Regardless, their absence doesn't hurt as much as Vudravati, Obari and Embaral, likely the big three for Vudra.

Ravithra is the one with an Agents of Edgewatch article, not Nalinivati. That's a big part of the reason I'm confused the former got a page in this book and the latter didn't - we've already seen Ravithra in 2e, in a pretty lavish treatment.

You're right. That was a mistake on my part.

…y’know, if I’m feeling conspiratorial, I might say Nalinivati’s absence here would make a lot of sense if we were seeing Vudra or Nagajor/Tian Xia relatively soon.

Just a thought.

They've been hinting at Tian Xia for a while now. An AP set there would coincide nicely with Rage of Elements.

My copy went out so I got my copy, and I have to say, loving the art in this book.

The art is 10/10. Yled and Mechatar in particular, but also the cover and Nex. All very colorful all around and the NPC's that are illustrated look great.

My copy went out so I got my copy, and I have to say, loving the art in this book.

** spoiler omitted **

I had thought that my love of reptilian characters was satisfied by Lizardfolk and Kobolds, but what I've been hearing about PF2 Nagaji is really appealing.

VerBeeker wrote:

My copy went out so I got my copy, and I have to say, loving the art in this book.

** spoiler omitted **

I had thought that my love of reptilian characters was satisfied by Lizardfolk and Kobolds, but what I've been hearing about PF2 Nagaji is really appealing.

All the snek love in Impossible Lands has been great. An incredibly solid book.

VerBeeker wrote:

My copy went out so I got my copy, and I have to say, loving the art in this book.

** spoiler omitted **

I had thought that my love of reptilian characters was satisfied by Lizardfolk and Kobolds, but what I've been hearing about PF2 Nagaji is really appealing.

What I appreciate is that both Iruxi and Nagaji live in this region, but their cultural niches are completely different, and not knowing the difference would immediately mark you as an outsider.

This book surprised me in a number of ways:

1) Bhopan is a "hidden" island with no specific location on the regional map. All we can be sure of is that it is in the part of the Obari Ocean that is within this region.

2) Kashrishi are Small. Somehow I wasn't expecting that.

3) The Sacred Nagaji heritage is interesting for its drastic difference in appearance from other Nagaji (something like a wingless Lillend, for anyone who doesn't have the book or PDF yet). In PF1, I had to resort to a summoner's eidolon to get a character with that appearance.

4) Vishkanya never fully stop growing. This provides an interesting post-campaign situation for one of my PCs who married a petite Vishkanya woman. He probably was not expecting that by the time she died, she was taller than he was.

Sidenote, not sure how I like nagaji apparently having snake tail ancestry. I think I do like it, but I do kinda feel like its also saying "And we are never having another snek ancestry ever again, see the niche is filled" xP

Sidenote, not sure how I like nagaji apparently having snake tail ancestry. I think I do like it, but I do kinda feel like its also saying "And we are never having another snek ancestry ever again, see the niche is filled" xP

I somehow doubt it is saying that. Maybe not until we get serpentfolk or something, but yeah. Probably gonna depend more on what makes sense for the region.

Another thing I forgot to mention is that many of the new races follow a pattern of one fixed and one free ability score bonus, with no penalty. I am wondering whether the next edition of Pathfinder (presumably still many years off) will go with that as the standard system of ability score adjustments by ancestry?

Another thing I forgot to mention is that many of the new races follow a pattern of one fixed and one free ability score bonus, with no penalty. I am wondering whether the next edition of Pathfinder (presumably still many years off) will go with that as the standard system of ability score adjustments by ancestry?

I hope not, but I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case