Pathfinder Lost Omens: Absalom, City of Lost Omens

Wasnt Zarta Dralneen a Wizard in 1e?

Nope.

Wasnt Zarta Dralneen a Wizard in 1e?

Not according to the Pathfinder World Guide.

CorvusMask wrote:

This is good reason to ask why xD So yeah why do you think infinite food relic was dumb? Like is it because it would have far reaching consequences outside its intended purpose like "why would we ever trade or farm food" or such?

I strongly suspect that everyone has a different answer to this question. For me, a big part of it is that Aroden is dead, and most of the lingering magics fueled by his divine energy should be either dormant or fizzling out by now (I mean, this is what happened to re-open the Worldwound, for example).

I was under the impresion the reopening of the world wound was due to outside factors

Outsiders even.

Outsiders even.

I see what you did there.

Got email about poster map being added - it only seems to have been added to the File per Chapter download (or at least, I've re-downloaded the single file version 4 times and I don't get the 8-panel map in the zip file or the pdf). I would also ask someone to check the resolution of the map download, which looks amazing zoomed out or at 100% zoom, but that's probably the best resolution to view it at, which makes it less useful for looking at small areas (such as individual districts, let alone individual blocks).

Gamerskum wrote:

Wasnt Zarta Dralneen a Wizard in 1e?

Not according to the Pathfinder World Guide.

Erp, I meant "Pathfinder Society Field Guide."

Long day, yesterday. ;)

I was under the impresion the reopening of the world wound was due to outside factors

One of the most important factors is that Aroden's magic was failing.

Got email about poster map being added - it only seems to have been added to the File per Chapter download (or at least, I've re-downloaded the single file version 4 times and I don't get the 8-panel map in the zip file or the pdf). I would also ask someone to check the resolution of the map download, which looks amazing zoomed out or at 100% zoom, but that's probably the best resolution to view it at, which makes it less useful for looking at small areas (such as individual districts, let alone individual blocks).

We're looking into this and will likely update the file next week when we get back to the office (metaphorically speaking...).

Sidenote: Gulgamodh's new picture is much cooler than the one from PFS 1e x'D

Bite your tongue!

(It IS much cooler though ;D)

Ah as part of typo/error reporting, "Beragel Tindertales" is listed as "Baragal Tindertales" twice, on 139 "The Pesky Pet" sidebar and on 389 on the "npcs by type" list

CorvusMask wrote:

Was there aspect of them that I'm forgetting that would make it self evident what was dumb about them? :'D

(I'm seriously, I hear multiple people ask about them but I've never really learned what was the dumb part or really what they were about besides siege food. )

I'm going off memory and on my way to a meeting, operating on my increasingly failing memory rather than notes, but I think the aspect of "kill someone and take their Cornucopia and now you're on the High Council as a city leader" was probably not overwhelmingly popular among the folks involved in this decision.

Yeah that was the aspect I was glad to hear would be gone once I learned what they did. It strikes me as a very Willy Wonka-esque style of city governance, only with cornucopias and murder instead of golden tickets and attempted murder.

Hello, I’m just wondering why isn’t the PDF available for purchase? I had thought it would come up after the street release date but no such luck

Hello, I’m just wondering why isn’t the PDF available for purchase? I had thought it would come up after the street release date but no such luck

The street date is 22 December.

Calcryx666 wrote:

Hello, I’m just wondering why isn’t the PDF available for purchase? I had thought it would come up after the street release date but no such luck

The street date is 22 December.

Thank you!

For subscribers - does the book have anything neat to say about Nuar (and any other minotaur pals of his)?

Quite, including good art of him.

Quite, including good art of him.

** spoiler omitted **

That's lovely, thank you! I'm really hoping we can sneak playable Minotaurs into this edition.

Ye!

I personally think that book's commitment to previously established lore is probably main reason we didn't get more minotaur stuff in the book. Like I think if there was bit more creative freedom to go wild, we could have gotten something like that, but that is probably just my personal bias (and I'm saying that as someone who does like the book). I don't really have good established track record of guessing these kind of things correctly x'D

In that regard, The Grand Bazaar is a better Absalom book than the Absalom book.

In that regard, The Grand Bazaar is a better Absalom book than the Absalom book.

Oof x'D Grand Bazaar has definitely lot more Gonzo energy than this book yeah.

Like... I think one thing I should have put to my review(but don't really want to make it even longer) is that basically this book can be described as "If you read Absalom wikipedia article, do you want to learn more? If yes, get it, if not, then getting it likely doesn't change your mind"

There are lot of weird aspects to Absalom due to it having architecture inspired by Avistan, Garund, Casmaron AND Tian Xia, but overall book is more fleshing out "What does it mean to be 'City in the center of the world'" and making Absalom's metropolitan aspect much more obvious and visible. So there isn't really "Here is new mind blowing fun lore" aspect to the book, though it does have fun NPCs and locations such as petshop gnome owner with very exotic pets such as owlbears and such.

LOACLO and LOGB are like travel guides about South Africa, except the first one is aimed at uncle Tinus and aunt Elspeth who moved out in 1989 and the second one is aimed at a bunch of Gen Z Europeans who want to eat some local food, get laid and buy an intelligent robotic poppet from a skull-faced dealer in a shady alley of Pretoria.

Having received my subscriber PDF and paged through it, I have to say I really enjoyed this book and will no doubt consider it essential to running an Agents of Edgewatch game.

But also, The Norgorber schism that's building in all of this is the best thing I've seen Paizo do with Norgy since ever.

I really, really love how deep a dive of a city this is, honestly just drawing on it as a resource when homebrewing cities in any TTRPG is going to be great. Erik and co, you knocked it out of the park here.

Rysky wrote:

In that regard, The Grand Bazaar is a better Absalom book than the Absalom book.

Oof x'D Grand Bazaar has definitely lot more Gonzo energy than this book yeah.

Like... I think one thing I should have put to my review(but don't really want to make it even longer) is that basically this book can be described as "If you read Absalom wikipedia article, do you want to learn more? If yes, get it, if not, then getting it likely doesn't change your mind"

There are lot of weird aspects to Absalom due to it having architecture inspired by Avistan, Garund, Casmaron AND Tian Xia, but overall book is more fleshing out "What does it mean to be 'City in the center of the world'" and making Absalom's metropolitan aspect much more obvious and visible. So there isn't really "Here is new mind blowing fun lore" aspect to the book, though it does have fun NPCs and locations such as petshop gnome owner with very exotic pets such as owlbears and such.

Weird how, like incongruent hybrids of styles or buildings in one style right next to another from another style?

LOACLO and LOGB are like travel guides about South Africa, except the first one is aimed at uncle Tinus and aunt Elspeth who moved out in 1989 and the second one is aimed at a bunch of Gen Z Europeans who want to eat some local food, get laid and buy an intelligent robotic poppet from a skull-faced dealer in a shady alley of Pretoria.

Not European but I like the way you think.

CorvusMask wrote:

Rysky wrote:

In that regard, The Grand Bazaar is a better Absalom book than the Absalom book.

Oof x'D Grand Bazaar has definitely lot more Gonzo energy than this book yeah.

Like... I think one thing I should have put to my review(but don't really want to make it even longer) is that basically this book can be described as "If you read Absalom wikipedia article, do you want to learn more? If yes, get it, if not, then getting it likely doesn't change your mind"

There are lot of weird aspects to Absalom due to it having architecture inspired by Avistan, Garund, Casmaron AND Tian Xia, but overall book is more fleshing out "What does it mean to be 'City in the center of the world'" and making Absalom's metropolitan aspect much more obvious and visible. So there isn't really "Here is new mind blowing fun lore" aspect to the book, though it does have fun NPCs and locations such as petshop gnome owner with very exotic pets such as owlbears and such.

Weird how, like incongruent hybrids of styles or buildings in one style right next to another from another style?

Well see the full list and years

Azlanti (0–420 ar):
Taldan (140–2920, 3760–4137 ar):
Osirian (200–576, 1532–2255, 2920–3250 ar):
Kortos Preclassical (400–750 ar):
Vudran (537–1325, 4340–4500, 4612 ar–present):
Nexian (580–1312, 2920–3760 ar):
Kortos Classical (700–1530 ar):
Tian (1308–1630, 2920–3060, 4315–4645 ar):
Kortos Post-classical (1465–1730 ar):
Kortos Conservative (1620–2110 ar):
Kortos Vulgar (1993–2790 ar):
Keleshite (1920–2920 ar):
Castrovelian (2638–2910 ar):
Kortos Revival (2920–3730, 3824–4055 ar):
Azlanti Revival (3235–3835 ar):
Chelaxian Independent (4090–4660 ar):
Kortos Neoclassical (4138 ar–present):

C-Castrovelian???

Well then.

C-Castrovelian???

Well then.

Piqued my interest as well. When did aliens dominate locate architecture?

VerBeeker wrote:

C-Castrovelian???

Well then.

Piqued my interest as well. When did aliens dominate locate architecture?

The elves returned from Castrovel in 2632 AR, 6 years before that architecture period began. That probably explains it.

keftiu wrote:

VerBeeker wrote:

C-Castrovelian???

Well then.

Piqued my interest as well. When did aliens dominate locate architecture?

The elves returned from Castrovel in 2632 AR, 6 years before that architecture period began. That probably explains it.

Yep. It became chic to build it in Castrovelian interplanetary fashion for a while shortly after the elves returned using them as architects.

Also one local subcultures/countercultures is Tri-Stripe Society which are... Just huge fans of badgers.

As said there are lot of weird details about city, but the presentation is fairly low key so they are easy to miss x'D

Tender Tendrils wrote:

keftiu wrote:

VerBeeker wrote:

C-Castrovelian???

Well then.

Piqued my interest as well. When did aliens dominate locate architecture?

The elves returned from Castrovel in 2632 AR, 6 years before that architecture period began. That probably explains it.

Yep. It became chic to build it in Castrovelian interplanetary fashion for a while shortly after the elves returned using them as architects.

It was Absalom's 60's phase. The Rolling Boulders bards were making a killing too...

It was Absalom's 60's phase. The Rolling Boulders bards were making a killing too...

I love their music!

I bought this book during the sales glitch and it vanished from the downloads shortly thereafter (which is absolutely fine) but it still isn't showing and now I was wondering if I do get a refund or if the download will appear again.

I bought this book during the sales glitch and it vanished from the downloads shortly thereafter (which is absolutely fine) but it still isn't showing and now I was wondering if I do get a refund or if the download will appear again.

I think you should check with Customer Service. They are, and always have been, the greatest.

Starocotes wrote:

I bought this book during the sales glitch and it vanished from the downloads shortly thereafter (which is absolutely fine) but it still isn't showing and now I was wondering if I do get a refund or if the download will appear again.

I think you should check with Customer Service. They are, and always have been, the greatest.

I *think* it won’t show up again until the 22nd, release date. If not, then contact CS, certainly.

It is a good book though, I really do enjoy it. Reminds me of the Ptolus campaign book.

Complaining about "cartoonishly" evil while supporting the laziest evil shorthand you can go for?

I feel like I’m missing context on the last two comments.

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Is the info on the gillmen just a reprint from the Ancestry Guide?

Is the info on the gillmen just a reprint from the Ancestry Guide?

It's the other way round ;)

Is the info on the gillmen just a reprint from the Ancestry Guide?

No, the ancestry guide was the extra stuff that assumed we already had the absalom book, the free pdf they released of the base ancestry is whts reprinted here :)

What's the actual title of this book? This product page has Pathfinder Lost Omens: Absalom, City of Lost Omens, the cover has Absalom City of Lost Omens, and the copyright inside the book has Pathfinder Lost Omens Absalom, City of Lost Omens.

I call it Absalom, city of Lost Omens, and the cover goes with that because we didn’t want to repeat Lost Omens there. It is, none the less, in the Lost Omens line, so it gets catalogued that way on the website. Call it what you want. :)