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Yes, and we are very much interested in seeing how people respond to these shorter Adventure Paths.When did APs move to 3 adventures? I knew they had done it in Starfinder had not heard for Pathfinder.This is an experiment, with this AP covering levels 1-10 and the next AP covering levels 11-20.
They will resume their normal 6 part 1-20 nature with the AP after that.
I like the long ones, but a few short ones here and there will be welcome at my table. Especially when you have new people that are afraid to commit until they decide if they like the system.
I have never had a campaign last that long. My longest campaign was 1-8, so a shorter APs are very welcome in my case.
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I think it would be a good idea to make a short AP go from Level 3-13. Maybe to use after something like the Beginer Box or Troubles in Otari. I just finished the Beginer Box adventure and I am going to run Trouble in Otari but once this AP comes out I am planning on running it but I will have to modify it slightly since the PC's will not be starting at level 1.
Honestly I would just run it as is and adjust the XP. MAYBE add an extra couple of encounters, but probably not. 1st levels of APs are deadly anyways, the extra levels would soften that blow considerably and let you plow through many combats in a row. Especially if your group is PF2 beginners, that cushion could be useful as they learn better tactics.
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Me and my players are fiending for the player's guide, haha! I am checking daily to see if it dropped. I guess it will either be tomorrow or the day after?
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Players Guide today?
The PDF exists, the blog is written, now we need a product page to make it go live.
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How come the map of area A & D didn't make it into the interactive map pdf? They are on the inside covers and got missed. Also would like the Otari city map to be added as well, if you could update the file?
How come the map of area A & D didn't make it into the interactive map pdf? They are on the inside covers and got missed. Also would like the Otari city map to be added as well, if you could update the file?
Seconding this! I opened the maps first to see the layout of a four-level dungeon, but only two levels are there!
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How come the map of area A & D didn't make it into the interactive map pdf? They are on the inside covers and got missed. Also would like the Otari city map to be added as well, if you could update the file?Seconding this! I opened the maps first to see the layout of a four-level dungeon, but only two levels are there!
I have referred this issue to the Webstore Team and am working with the Store Manager to get the Player's Guide live. Thanks
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The Abomination Vaults Player's Guide product page is live and the blog will post tomorrow. :)
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I have referred this issue to the Webstore Team and am working with the Store Manager to get the Player's Guide live. ThanksHow come the map of area A & D didn't make it into the interactive map pdf? They are on the inside covers and got missed. Also would like the Otari city map to be added as well, if you could update the file?Seconding this! I opened the maps first to see the layout of a four-level dungeon, but only two levels are there!
Indeed some maps were missed. Art has added them and the Store Manager will upload them when she can catch a breath. :)
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Indeed some maps were missed. Art has added them and the Store Manager will upload them when she can catch a breath. :)I have referred this issue to the Webstore Team and am working with the Store Manager to get the Player's Guide live. ThanksHow come the map of area A & D didn't make it into the interactive map pdf? They are on the inside covers and got missed. Also would like the Otari city map to be added as well, if you could update the file?Seconding this! I opened the maps first to see the layout of a four-level dungeon, but only two levels are there!
Update: Maps have been updated! Feel free to refresh your downloads and try the maps again. Keep in mind, sometimes it takes the site instances a while to catch up so you might need to wait a bit or try the "trouble downloading?" link.
Is there a good way to tie this into Troubles in Otari?
Is there a good way to tie this into Troubles in Otari?
We have no predetermined bridge over than they take place in the same area at about the same time in our default setting. One could simply take the characters from Troubles in Otari and play through the first volume of the Abomination Vaults at a higher level than needed.
Wouldn't that impact the follow-on volumes as well?
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Wouldn't that impact the follow-on volumes as well?
Honestly, not as much as you might think; since PF2e grants XP based on the difference between the challenge's level and the party's, the initial encounters will give a fraction of the XP they would to a level 1 party.
it would probably end up a cakewalk as the PC's stomped through the early chapters for tiny XP rewards as the difficulty ramped up to be level appropriate, probably around the time they finished the volume.
That sounds good!
I'm confused about how people have access to maps files but the pdf is listed as available on 1/27. Is there a way to get the pdf sooner?
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I'm confused about how people have access to maps files but the pdf is listed as available on 1/27. Is there a way to get the pdf sooner?
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Interesting that the adventure and player's guide have different color schemes. I don't think we've had that before.
Interesting that the adventure and player's guide have different color schemes. I don't think we've had that before.
It’s not olive green to you?
Interesting that the adventure and player's guide have different color schemes. I don't think we've had that before.It’s not olive green to you?
No, it appears more light green, similar to Jade Regent. Take a look.
I just want to say that this is my favourite AP so far. I started my adventure with Pathfinder with Extinction Curse, but both EC and AoE were very non-standard and I am very happy to see a much more classic campaign with a lot of variance being done. I love the dungeon, I love its inhabitans. Reminds me of classic modules, but we have very interesting adversaries and story as opposed to fighting some regular goblins and orcs. 10/10, I now feel the need to start a new group and use this.
No, it appears more light green, similar to Jade Regent. Take a look.Interesting that the adventure and player's guide have different color schemes. I don't think we've had that before.It’s not olive green to you?
Fascinating. I wonder if that was a printing error where the same color looks different in print than on a screen? I've heard of that happening before.
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Is there a good way to tie this into Troubles in Otari?We have no predetermined bridge over than they take place in the same area at about the same time in our default setting. One could simply take the characters from Troubles in Otari and play through the first volume of the Abomination Vaults at a higher level than needed.
That said, one of my takes is that a new player learns the game and learns the setting in the Beginner Box adventure, then when they like that taste, they switch over to the Core Rules and start up a new character with more options in a game set in an area where they're already familiar with the setting.
You could certainly take your 3rd or 4th level characters into this adventure, and for a few levels you'll be earning XP slowly and will have an easier time in the encounters, but the way 2nd edition XP works, you'll eventually "catch up" to where you should be.
Personally, I like the idea of starting over with the Core Rulebook... even if I were making the same character I played in the Beginner Box (ESPECIALLY in this case) being able to further customize and expand those options would be pretty attractive.
You don't have to play a different character if you start over from 1st level.
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Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but what's the lead time for the prefab to pop up on roll20? I have a bunch of players ready to go after the PDF came in yesterday.
I believe our Director of Licensing said they are working on this AP, targeting a go-live on the street date of Jan 27. But all our VTT partners do what they think is bast and take as long as they need to. Those include Roll20, Fantasy Grounds, Astral Tabletop, and D20Pro.
Is there a good way to tie this into Troubles in Otari?We have no predetermined bridge over than they take place in the same area at about the same time in our default setting. One could simply take the characters from Troubles in Otari and play through the first volume of the Abomination Vaults at a higher level than needed.That said, one of my takes is that a new player learns the game and learns the setting in the Beginner Box adventure, then when they like that taste, they switch over to the Core Rules and start up a new character with more options in a game set in an area where they're already familiar with the setting.
You could certainly take your 3rd or 4th level characters into this adventure, and for a few levels you'll be earning XP slowly and will have an easier time in the encounters, but the way 2nd edition XP works, you'll eventually "catch up" to where you should be.
Personally, I like the idea of starting over with the Core Rulebook... even if I were making the same character I played in the Beginner Box (ESPECIALLY in this case) being able to further customize and expand those options would be pretty attractive.
You don't have to play a different character if you start over from 1st level.
Thanks^^
That's a good idea and most likely what we will be doing.
Fascinating. I wonder if that was a printing error where the same color looks different in print than on a screen? I've heard of that happening before.No, it appears more light green, similar to Jade Regent. Take a look.Interesting that the adventure and player's guide have different color schemes. I don't think we've had that before.It’s not olive green to you?
Weird. Does anyone have the print version yet? How does it look?
If it says the PDF is available on the 27th, at what time can I download it? I live in Germandy btw :)
My account was charged for pre-pay on the subscription about a week ago. Still no shipment. I'm anxious to check this one out. I hope Fantasy Grounds puts it up for purchase on their VTT pretty soon too.
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Weird. Does anyone have the print version yet? How does it look?Fascinating. I wonder if that was a printing error where the same color looks different in print than on a screen? I've heard of that happening before.No, it appears more light green, similar to Jade Regent. Take a look.Interesting that the adventure and player's guide have different color schemes. I don't think we've had that before.It’s not olive green to you?
Just got my physical copy and it's olive green like the thumbnail, not the bright slimer green of the pdf.
If it says the PDF is available on the 27th, at what time can I download it? I live in Germandy btw :)
PDFs generally go live at midnight Pacific time.
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Just got my physical copy and it's olive green like the thumbnail, not the bright slimer green of the pdf.
That's really strange, that the PDF looks different.
3 days....
The adventure is great! Classic vibes with a lot of fresh air and unique encounters!
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Can you start releasing higher resolution map files for us that aren't embedded into a locked pdf?
I know they exist because FG gets them and they are higher res than the ones I can rip from the pdf.
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Can you start releasing higher resolution map files for us that aren't embedded into a locked pdf?
I know they exist because FG gets them and they are higher res than the ones I can rip from the pdf.
VTT's like FG get higher res images because they are a licensed partner. We have an internal VTT task force looking onto direct-to-customer options.
I think the images in the interactive map PDF are higher resolution, but I might be wrong.
VTT's like FG get higher res images because they are a licensed partner. We have an internal VTT task force looking onto direct-to-customer options.Can you start releasing higher resolution map files for us that aren't embedded into a locked pdf?
I know they exist because FG gets them and they are higher res than the ones I can rip from the pdf.
I thought that was already a thing. Wasn't there a blog a few months ago about providing us with non pdf maps?