The warforged had a lot of cool worldbuilding and personality that sprang from their relatively recent creation, their role in the Last War, and their involvement with society in a post-world war setting... it's right there in the name.
We already have "a construct race" - the wyrwood. I don't know what you're looking for that they don't already cover.
Presumably they'd want a construct race which is more player friendly, in the same way Ultimate Wilderness altered the plant type for the Leshy and Ghoran races.
I hope not, I hate what they did did to the Ghoran (and plant races in general) in that book.
Yes, taking away immunity to mind-affecting and polymorph effects I can agree with. But taking away immunity to sleep, paralysis, stunning, and poison not so much. Also they didn't give anything in return for taking away those immunities, no save bonuses, no alternate racial abilities, no feats that could give those immunities back, etc.
Paralysis, sleep, and stunning are not strong immunities. Though poison is a strong one, it is not game breaking. In fact none of them, even together, are game breaking.
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...Poison is like the least strong of those 4.
Paralysis gets you coup de graced, sleep gets you coup de graced, stunned makes you lose your turn, significantly lowers your AC, and makes your drop your weapon.
Poison may have an onset time so that it doesn't come up in combat, generally doesn't debilitate you terribly immediately even if it onsets immediately, and can be cured with a spell.
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Paralysis, sleep, and stunning are not strong immunities. Though poison is a strong one, it is not game breaking. In fact none of them, even together, are game breaking.
Have you, ever, in your 3.5/PF gaming career, faced a pack of ghouls ran by a GM who isn't, heh, this is going to be funny, watch me people, Mr. Worldwide back in action:
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a plant?
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YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAH!
Because if you did, you'd never state that paralysis is less dangerous than non-unchained poison.
There is a legit reason why sleep and color spray are multitudes more powerful than burning hands and that reason is the fact that when somebody gains the helpless condition in Pathfinder he or she is likely dead within 1 or 2 rounds thanks to a coup de grace.
Meanwhile, posion just pings you for 1d3 STR. Boo hoo. Scary.
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... I don't get it :3Jeez, educate yourself.
I haz been edumacated.
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Yeah, not a fan of huge nerfs just so the new class(bad as it currently is) can have plant characters take it.
Remember how they nerfed undead so they could get moral bonuses and be barbarians? Oh, wait, no they didn't, they just said they use the class feauter despite their immunity.
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Folks, I get it that some of you are disappointed with Ultimate Wilderness. But this is not the Ultimate Wilderness thread, and the only thing your constant needling and distractions and thread-derails are doing is making it more likely that this will be my last post on the topic of Planar Adventures until the book is actually out.
So please, keep on topic.
If the law based "plane-touched" race is indeed more focused on Inevitables, then I would be fine with a flat out +2 racial bonus on fortitude saves if they don't get android-like immunities/resistances. Though personally I would prefer the law based plane-touched race to not be too stuck on one type of outsider.
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...So, any chance of this book stating up more axomites? It would be nice to have more lawful neutral outsiders and axomites seem to be a natural candidate for such an expansion, even it it was just stats for when some of them combine to complete a task that is beyond them individually.
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...So, any chance of this book stating up more axomites? It would be nice to have more lawful neutral outsiders and axomites seem to be a natural candidate for such an expansion, even it it was just stats for when some of them combine to complete a task that is beyond them individually.
Axiomites are not a "race" of outsiders like demons or devils or innevitables. They're more akin to things like chaos beasts or valkyries or hunduns or salamanders—a single creature that has a lot of flavor.
That said, there will be an expansion of the TYPE of theme that axiomites cover. Just not something that's going to be listed in the bestiary as "Axiomite, Insert Name Here."
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They're more akin to things like chaos beasts or valkyries or hunduns or salamanders—a single creature that has a lot of flavor.
The question is, what flavor?
Personally, my guess is mint. But there's only one way to find out.
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They're more akin to things like chaos beasts or valkyries or hunduns or salamanders—a single creature that has a lot of flavor.The question is, what flavor?
Personally, my guess is mint. But there's only one way to find out.
I assure you that they all taste bad.
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I assure you that they all taste bad.They're more akin to things like chaos beasts or valkyries or hunduns or salamanders—a single creature that has a lot of flavor.The question is, what flavor?
Personally, my guess is mint. But there's only one way to find out.
Even with lots of ketchup?
Would have loved more types of Axiomites, oh well, maybe we will get some other LN outsider group other then Inevitables.
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So is anyone else looking forward to see (more)stuff about the positive energy plane, dimension of time, and/or dimension of dreams?
What demi-planes are you most interested in seeing?
Eh, I don't really need the demi-plane stuff too much. If my players want to visit somewhere, it's going to by a major plane. Since we have the First World well-covered, it's the aligned planes that will be the most useful for me, and the good ones in particular. We've got details on what it's like visiting Heaven via Plane Shift (speaking of, I really should get Heaven Unleashed), but what about the less strict Nirvana or Elysium? I don't have a very good idea of how to include them in an adventure, and I'm hoping the book will be helpful there.
I'd like to see more on the Immortal Ambulatory. A roaming demiplane filled with islands ruled by dragons sounds like a great place to adventure. Also, with a quick glance through the Great Beyond, Crypt of the Dying Sun and the Mnemovore (a quasi-sentient demiplane that hunts extraplanar libraries) both sound fun
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I'd like to see more on the Immortal Ambulatory. A roaming demiplane filled with islands ruled by dragons sounds like a great place to adventure. Also, with a quick glance through the Great Beyond, Crypt of the Dying Sun and the Mnemovore (a quasi-sentient demiplane that hunts extraplanar libraries) both sound fun
The mnemovore actually has an awesome write-up in Occult Realms!
And there's a really sly link to another demiplane, the Prison of the Laughing Fiend, buried in the flavor text.
What book was the Immortal Ambulatory mentioned?
Looks like I need to look for my copy of Occult Realms;)
What book was the Immortal Ambulatory mentioned?
Looks like I need to look for my copy of Occult Realms;)
Heaven Unleashed, the Empyreal Angel lives there.
Is this a Paizo Con release?
Do we know what the page count of the book will be?
Will the final cover art be revealed before, during, or after Paizo Con?
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Is this a Paizo Con release?
I would assume that it will be PaizoCon Release if it makes it to their warehouse in time.
I mean it is the only hardcover coming out around that time but is kind of cutting close with Paizo Con being May and this book being a June release. Plus the book was never announced as being a Paizo Con release...at least not yet anyway.
How popular are the planar based races at your gaming table?
I'm super hyped to get my players into the other realms, hopefully they explore Gods from mythos besides Golarion too!
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If I run a planar campaign the players go wild. Usually lots of tieflings and aasimar, a half-celestial, a half-fiend half-celestial once, but never any genasi/elemental planetouched.
I personally haven't played virtually anything other than a tiefling, ganzi (before ganzi were a thing), or half-faerie dragon in almost a decade. The one time I played something conventional, a TN half-elf druid, they ended the campaign as a NE shadow dragon druid.
I just adore the variability in appearance and customization of traits that you have with planetouched (even if we don't call them planetouched as a group in Pathfinder). :)
It varies in our campaigns as well. Right now we have two aasimar and we had an ifrit.
They are really popular in my group. We had an oni-spawn and an aasimar in a campaign in the dragon empires fighting nagas, and a married couple of undines fighting in the plane of water in a campaign against the followers of Kelizandri.
Maybe the 3 new plane touched races, in time, will get (almost) as popular as aasimar and tieflings.
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Maybe the 3 new plane touched races, in time, will get (almost) as popular as aasimar and tieflings.
I know I'm planning at least a couple ganzi characters. ^_^
I've noticed that Ultimate [Blank] and [Blank] Adventures Books will sometimes be released in close proximity to AP's that share the same flavor - Hell's Rebels AP and Ultimate Intrigue; Strange Aeons AP and Horror Adventures, etc.
Could we be seeing a Planar-based AP in the near future? :)
Hell's Rebels came out at least 6 six months before Ultimate Intrigue.
I've noticed that Ultimate [Blank] and [Blank] Adventures Books will sometimes be released in close proximity to AP's that share the same flavor - Hell's Rebels AP and Ultimate Intrigue; Strange Aeons AP and Horror Adventures, etc.
Could we be seeing a Planar-based AP in the near future? :)
They are also releasing the Plane-Hopper's Handbook in September. Maybe after Return of the Runelords???