Pathfinder Player Companion: Blood of the Sea (PFRPG)

SONGBOUND CURSE?!

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

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♫ We are Song-bound
We sing loudly when we speak
We are Song-bound
Not for us an ignomious squeak

We have music to do, you and I
Modules of musical might
With our brand new oracle curse
We'll dance with monsters diverse
We'll sing to our heart's content and delight! ♫

I am really, really hoping that this curse is available to races other than merfolk!

Hmm

I am really, really hoping that this curse is available to races other than merfolk!

The description mentions Merfolk (in the fluff text0, but there's nothing saying it's only available to Merfolk.

-Skeld

SONGBOUND CURSE?!

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

<snip cool song>

I am really, really hoping that this curse is available to races other than merfolk!

Hmm

Unfortunately not.

"Merfolk oracles may select the following new oracle curse."

But I suppose anyone who qualifies as human could blow a Racial Heritage feat to qualify (outside of PFS, that is).

Anything for the Mordant Spire Elves in this one ?

Anything for the Mordant Spire Elves in this one ?

Nope.

Well, maybe there's be a merfolk boon someday in PFS! Then... Watch out!

nighttree wrote:

Anything for the Mordant Spire Elves in this one ?

Nope.

:(.......

Deepspawn Hybrids ???

David knott 242 wrote:

nighttree wrote:

Anything for the Mordant Spire Elves in this one ?

Nope.

:(.......

Deepspawn Hybrids ???

No again.

By the way -- the Gillman now has the best favored class bonus for the Medium class -- +1/6 to Spirit Bonus.

By the way -- the Gillman now has the best favored class bonus for the Medium class -- +1/6 to Spirit Bonus.

O.O

Gonna commune with all the dead fishies!

Or maybe Deep-spawn from beyond...

Anyways, I liked to see gnolls. I miss them.

Back to product discussion!

Any magic items, magic armor, magic weapons we should be aware of, Skeld?

(btw I'm sure you'll get done today!)

Any info on the rogue archetype would be greatly appreciated. Also, could we get the rules' index? That always helps with knowing what questions to ask.
Thanks in advance!!!

Psychie,

That's generally Luthorne's department. He doesn't get it until much later in the week. Generally.

Is the rogue archetype a reprint/rename of Eldritch Raider from the ARG?

Is the rogue archetype a reprint/rename of Eldritch Raider from the ARG?

No, it is not even for the same race (Aquatic Elf this time).

Thanks Skeld(and everyone else) for answering my questions.

Full details on the Cecaelia race can be found in this blog.

And got my copy fairly early this time!

Thank you David and Luthorne! (Also glad Luthorne got his early!) :)

Got mine! The art in this, other than the piece on the Introduction page (which has been rather bad often!), is fantastic!
The Crashing Wave cleric archetype! Wow. When Chanelling energy, all take untyped damage except those with a neutral aspect to their alignment. Only Gozreh worshippers need apply.
The Masterpieces are fun. Of course, I have always been a fan of such innovations. One gives swim speed to all in effect the other is like greater command spell to ward creatures away from your area.
I cannot say enough about the art--it really is impressive.

As the race that fit's in RP point wise the best with other races....what's the Locathah like ?

Well, maybe there's be a merfolk boon someday in PFS! Then... Watch out!

If there is ever a merfolk boon in PFS, perhaps it is you who should look out. For I shall crush all in my path, like a tsunami, to acquire it. (Maybe. :P)

Hmm wrote:

Well, maybe there's be a merfolk boon someday in PFS! Then... Watch out!

If there is ever a merfolk boon in PFS, perhaps it is you who should look out. For I shall crush all in my path, like a tsunami, to acquire it. (Maybe. :P)

Fear the 5ft flop.

As the race that fit's in RP point wise the best with other races....what's the Locathah like ?

Hmm wrote:

SONGBOUND CURSE?!

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

<snip cool song>

I am really, really hoping that this curse is available to races other than merfolk!

Hmm

Unfortunately not.

"Merfolk oracles may select the following new oracle curse."

But I suppose anyone who qualifies as human could blow a Racial Heritage feat to qualify (outside of PFS, that is).

That was literally the one line of the description i didn't read. That'll teach me. *eyeroll*

There's nothing particularly Merfolk-ish about that curse. i don't know why its limited to Merfolk.

-Skeld

I'd house rule it to allow to NON-Merfolk.

Huh, so out of new six races, only locathans got a lot of new material for them? I guess they are intended to be most normal of races while other ones are kinda in similar state to gargoyles/ogres/driders/etc from advanced race guide?

Huh?

No, pretty much all the races got a bunch of stuff for them.

Huh, so out of new six races, only locathans got a lot of new material for them? I guess they are intended to be most normal of races while other ones are kinda in similar state to gargoyles/ogres/driders/etc from advanced race guide?

Tritons are also in the more normal range of points for common PC races (at 11).

Huh?

No, pretty much all the races got a bunch of stuff for them.

Huh? Well according to above list, grindylows, tritons, adaros and sahagins don't have archetypes, alternate racial traits or favored class bonuses .-.

Tritons got the Kraken Slayer Paladin archetype and two feats.

Since they are primarily meant to be adversaries, the Adaro, Grindylow, and Sahuagin just got racial entries.

Could someone share info on the Electric Eel Style feat line?

Could someone share info on the Electric Eel Style feat line?

Sure. Here, hold this...

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Secret Wizard wrote:

Could someone share info on the Electric Eel Style feat line?

Sure. Here, hold this...

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I guess I should send the designers my feedback

What does instant clot do. it intrigues me that it is in his book.

Rysky wrote:

Huh?

No, pretty much all the races got a bunch of stuff for them.

Huh? Well according to above list, grindylows, tritons, adaros and sahagins don't have archetypes, alternate racial traits or favored class bonuses .-.

I did list that the tritons get the kraken slayer archetype, as well as two racial feats, but much of their entry is more related to lore for people wanting to play them. Adaros, grindylows, and sahuagins are in a shared section called 'Enemies of the Sea', with about two paragraphs apiece of lore, unlike aquatic elves, cecaelias, gillmen, locathahs, merfolk, and tritons, who each get two pages.

Could someone share info on the Electric Eel Style feat line?

It builds off of Elemental Fist, mostly specializing in taser-punching enemies to make them easier to grapple and giving friendly electro-hugs.

What does instant clot do. it intrigues me that it is in his book.

Ends existing bleed effects and briefly prevents you from bleeding when taking normal damage so sharks and similar creatures can't smell you from miles away.

Disappointed that merfolk and tritons didn't get any alternate racial traits.

David knott 242 wrote:

Hmm wrote:

SONGBOUND CURSE?!

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

<snip cool song>

I am really, really hoping that this curse is available to races other than merfolk!

Hmm

Unfortunately not.

"Merfolk oracles may select the following new oracle curse."

But I suppose anyone who qualifies as human could blow a Racial Heritage feat to qualify (outside of PFS, that is).

That was literally the one line of the description i didn't read. That'll teach me. *eyeroll*

There's nothing particularly Merfolk-ish about that curse. i don't know why its limited to Merfolk.

-Skeld

I've never been so happy to have an option be racially locked, and behind a generally banned race at that. It's the sort of character quirk that is a huge nuisance to actually play in a game with.

Anyway, got my PDF. Not what I like seeing in these books- a big portion taken up by races that are too strong for my groups, and large chunks that are flavor and advice. The other "blood of" books were more broadly useful- this is underwater campaign or bust, and there's a lot I'd pass over even for an underwater campaign.

... but that's fair. Blood of the Sea didn't interest me in particular. It's just that the player's companion line has nothing but cool stuff I'm looking forward to for the next six months at least, and it wasn't worth dropping the subscription for the book I wasn't as interested in. We've even still got our usual fall "blood of" book!

Do you want to build a Merfolk for PFS...

Yeah, I was a bit disappointed as to how much material was racially locked, though some of it is certainly useful for such races, like the sponge suit and land limbs, or even the cloak of eternal mist, which make playing a gillman or merfolk much easier. That said, if you are planning on running some underwater adventures, or playing a game involving aquatic races that might have to head on land, this book definitely has some good advice, though I would recommend getting Aquatic Adventures with it.

I mean, it's not like it's totally useless, electric eel style is fun, and there are some archetypes that, while ocean-themed, work fine for normal adventuring, as well as the new cavalier order and the eidolon subtype.

I still like the book, though, but that might be partially because I've been pondering an underwater game for awhile...

Rysky wrote:

Huh?

No, pretty much all the races got a bunch of stuff for them.

Huh? Well according to above list, grindylows, tritons, adaros and sahagins don't have archetypes, alternate racial traits or favored class bonuses .-.

I believe that the sahaughin got some alternate racial traits in the Monster Codex. Not many, but a few.

(Sahaughin are my favorite aquatic race, so I feel your pain on that.)

I assume Aquatic Beastmaster is just an aquatic specialist with an aquatic pet?

Any info on the order of the eel and the new eidolon type?

Also Luthorne's description of the Eel style makes me want to use it so much.

New eidolon type is serpentine, non-good, non-lawful, and focused on tentacle/tail slap attacks.

Are aquatic elves available in PFS as a playable race?

Are these archetypes reprinted from the Aquatic Adventures book from last month?

Are aquatic elves available in PFS as a playable race?

Are these archetypes reprinted from the Aquatic Adventures book from last month?

Dunno.

No.

Are aquatic elves available in PFS as a playable race?

Are these archetypes reprinted from the Aquatic Adventures book from last month?

No and no.

I assume Aquatic Beastmaster is just an aquatic specialist with an aquatic pet?

Pretty much, gets an alternate, aquatic-focused set of animal focuses, wild empathy can work on more creature types but only if they're aquatic, and get bonuses against water spells and the abilities of aquatic creatures.

Any info on the order of the eel and the new eidolon type?

Order of the eel believes in (possibly jolly) cooperation, by which I mean communication and negotiation. Their abilities tend to focus on working in cooperation with people of a number of different races, as well as on negotiating agreements.

QuidEst more or less covered the deepwater eidolon, an inhuman entity drawn from the ocean's depths (though still an outsider), while they gain evolutions related to traveling through the water (including jet!), they're still quite nasty with their (eventually poisonous) tentacles and tail slaps.

It's a shame Cecaelias are such a high RP value, my group barely lets people play Aasimar for their RP value so there's no way I'll get away with 23 much of ever. Nice to know how much RP being immune to trip is worth though, that's something the rules were lacking for IMO too long now.

It's a shame Cecaelias are such a high RP value, my group barely lets people play Aasimar for their RP value so there's no way I'll get away with 23 much of ever.

Would your group accept a weaker version? Given the RP values are given here, you could cut three abilities or so, to get down to something like 15 RP.

Thanks Luthorne and Quidest! Order of the eel sounds good.