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I hope theirs a demodand familiar or at least more demodand stuff in this one
Cool, they also mentioned androids, did they say this at an actual recorded event or was this "water cooler talk"?
You really don't like evil alignment do you? Every game will be one big happy family picknick! :-p
Question, do you have any experience playing a PC in a group that doesn't allow Lawful Evil, Neutral Evil, or Chaotic Evil PC's?
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Clockwork Familiars... Tell me That we will not be able to create an army of clockwork robots using either magic or alchemy, and i will show you a pack of lies. This is amazing in terms of potential story telling and for people who mind a mix of magic and technology.
For those who are against the idea of more robots in their games, thats fine. you can have your own games away from them.
Me though... I Want to Make a Techno Witch ASAP...
November cannot come fast enough.
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Clockwork Familiars... Tell me That we will not be able to create an army of clockwork robots using either magic or alchemy, and i will show you a pack of lies. This is amazing in terms of potential story telling and for people who mind a mix of magic and technology.
For those who are against the idea of more robots in their games, thats fine. you can have your own games away from them.
Me though... I Want to Make a Techno Witch ASAP...
November cannot come fast enough.
Why wait? ^_^
Will there be new dinosaurs in B5? If so, may i ask how many?
I wonder how many 0HD races there will be? So far we have Android, Ghoran, Deep One hybrid, Caligni, Orang-Pendak, and Skinwalker. I hope at least one new race is small size.
I wish they gave an example of a new template.
Will there be new dinosaurs in B5? If so, may i ask how many?
I think four is the standard.
It would be the first hardcover bestiary without dinosaurs if they didn't. Though I really doubt they wouldn't put any in there.
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Cool, they also mentioned androids, did they say this at an actual recorded event or was this "water cooler talk"?
Was what JJ told me when I asked them about it. It also makes sense for both the android and skinwalker to end up in this one. If they've announced the Ghoran which is from the same book as the Android it would be odd for them to not port it over as well. As for the skinwalker considering how much attention it's been getting it makes sense for it to get a port to a book where more people will be able to see it.
It would also make sense that the Lashunta would get reprinted in this book though it doesn't mean it will. As far as the other two races(Monkey Goblin and Syrinx) in Inner Sea Bestiary they could still be in the book but there is no reason as far as the theme of the book goes with aliens, psychic powers, and other occult themes.
yeah if the Ghoran and Android are both in, I sort of assume Monkey Goblins, Syrinx, and Lashunta are in as well.
With Skinwalkers plus the already announced new races, that's 9 right there, so might not be room for many more new races (especially since Shabti and Triaxians are also a possibility...)
Of course some of the above might also just get reprinted in Inner Sea Races, which might negate the need for them to be in Bestiary 5
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yeah if the Ghoran and Android are both in, I sort of assume Monkey Goblins, Syrinx, and Lashunta are in as well.
With Skinwalkers plus the already announced new races, that's 9 right there, so might not be room for many more new races (especially since Shabti and Triaxians are also a possibility...)
Of course some of the above might also just get reprinted in Inner Sea Races, which might negate the need for them to be in Bestiary 5
Yeah I'm thinking we get something closer to the latter with Lashunta and the other very golarion specific races getting delayed or put into another product and the ones that have more broad, setting neutral appeal like androids & skinwalkers get reprinted into this. That said I wouldn't be surprised to see Lashunta's in B5. Here's hoping the pic for them is the male and female ones with the male looking far more bestial and hulking than the one we got in the stars book.
Inner Sea Races is about the campaign setting, they will more then likely not have the game stats for races in the book.
It would make more sense to have the Triaxian then the Monkey Goblin or Syrinx. Not that I would mind about getting any of them in the book. If I had to choose to get only one more reprint, it would be the Lashunta.
They only use art for male or female, not both. I would prefer the female one, in fact I like the art for the one in the Inner Sea Bestiary.
Well B1 has 11 races, B2 has 7, B3 has 5, and B4 has 10. So who knows how many B5 will have though I doubt it will be more then 11.
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Inner Sea Races is about the campaign setting, they will more then likely not have the game stats for races in the book.
It would make more sense to have the Triaxian then the Monkey Goblin or Syrinx. Not that I would mind about getting any of them in the book. If I had to choose to get only one more reprint, it would be the Lashunta.
They only use art for male or female, not both. I would prefer the female one, in fact I like the art for the one in the Inner Sea Bestiary.
Well B1 has 11 races, B2 has 7, B3 has 5, and B4 has 10. So who knows how many B5 will have though I doubt it will be more then 11.
I know but considering that Lashunta's have totally different stats and vastly different physical characteristics it would be nice to see them both represented in the art. Also having some new are to replace the very "meh" work from people of the stars for male lashunta would be awesome and maybe give us something more associated with their original description.
I am not disagreeing but they have never had art for male and female of any creature in a bestiary at the same time. Though you could ask someone about it.
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In case anyone was curious about the grays, I come from New Hampshire where the first hugely popularized account of an alien abduction happened (Betty and Barney Hill) and grew up terrified of Unsolved Mysteries alien episodes. So, that all worked into my design.
But also this.
I'm still terrified of the concept of grays as an adult. I hope it effectively shows in my writing :)
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In case anyone was curious about the grays, I come from New Hampshire where the first hugely popularized account of an alien abduction happened (Betty and Barney Hill) and grew up terrified of Unsolved Mysteries alien episodes. So, that all worked into my design.
Ah, so they used parts of that story in American Horror Story. Can't wait to see 'em!
I can't wait to see the Gray's entry as well as a lot of other things I heard was in this book.
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I'm hoping to see the Carnotaurus makes its appearance this time around.
In case anyone was curious about the grays, I come from New Hampshire where the first hugely popularized account of an alien abduction happened (Betty and Barney Hill) and grew up terrified of Unsolved Mysteries alien episodes. So, that all worked into my design.
But also this.
I'm still terrified of the concept of grays as an adult. I hope it effectively shows in my writing :)
Why stop with the Greys? I'd like to go the Ken Hite/John Keel Inhumanoid route and use the Greys, the blond Nordics with their racial purity obsessions, the violent hairy Dwarves (usually South American), the Giants (30+ feet tall in one story!), the cold-hearted Reptoids, and the Qlipotthic-serving Mantids. Of course one could probably do all of them already with existing races and monsters, especially if you use the Occult classes and Tech guide.
And let em say again I enjoy being able to recognize many of the cryptid-inspired critters that show up in Pathfinder bestiaries.
I was hoping that the updated description would reveal at least one of the unknown types of esoteric dragons.
Unfortunately, when I think of grays, I think of the Asgard from Stargate SG-1, so they don't terrify me at all. Frankly, none of the monsters have ever frightened me in the slightest. Although, watching In Search Of way back when gave me nightmares about bigfoot for a bit.
When I think of Grays, I think of small to medium size humanoids with big dark eyes, pale to dark grey skin, telepathic and telekinetic powers.
Unfortunately, when I think of grays, I think of the Asgard from Stargate SG-1, so they don't terrify me at all. Frankly, none of the monsters have ever frightened me in the slightest. Although, watching In Search Of way back when gave me nightmares about bigfoot for a bit.
I watched shows like Unsolved Mysteries and such as a kid, and Grays scared the absolute crap out of me as a kid. I think whether you find Gray
The cover art and Moon Dogs...between those two, you have my full attention! Best cover of all the Bestiaries, IMO.
My favorite bestiary cover would be B2.
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I can't wait to see the Gray's entry as well as a lot of other things I heard was in this book.
I can't wait for you guys to get your hands on this one, but November is still a while away. So many creatures that do something fun and different beyond the usual (not to say that we don't have some simpler beatsticks in here too!).
Mmmm I guess you mean sf monsters with that? And the simpler monsters are the myth ones?
I dont have a favorite cover. The creatures shown on covers are never my favorites. I do like kappa, grim reaper, marilith and grendel though.
Nope, I mean fun and different in terms of their abilities. In fact, not that it tells you anything about the overall spread, but many of my favorite monsters that I consider fun and different are from myth, and very few of my favorite monsters that I consider fun and different are directly from scifi. There's also at least one creature that is both from myth and also pretty scifi.
I can't wait to see this "fun and different" you keep talking about.
Lol thanks Mark! You fell for my trap! Now I know there are many myth monsters out there in bestiary 5 ;-)
Lol thanks Mark! You fell for my trap! Now I know there are many myth monsters out there in bestiary 5 ;-)
Well considering every bestiary has had myth monsters + no where near running out of myth monsters, it was rather obvious :P
Agreed, it is obvious that creatures from myth would be in this book.
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Ya know, since everyone is making requests for monsters they want, I should too! I want... A giant raven.
Just so I would know what attacks and abilities tengus have in raven form :D
We have a giant raven in Pathfinder Adventure Path #97. Hope it fits your needs. :)
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We have a giant raven in Pathfinder Adventure Path #97. Hope it fits your needs. :)Ya know, since everyone is making requests for monsters they want, I should too! I want... A giant raven.
Just so I would know what attacks and abilities tengus have in raven form :D
Aww man, I didn't want to even accidentally spoil Hell's Rebels for myself, but you just made first part must buy(well, okay, it was already must buy, but I figured out I could buy it after eventually playing it) :'D
I take it that the "caller in darkness" is a mythos based creature, correct?
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I take it that the "caller in darkness" is a mythos based creature, correct?I don't believe so. I think it's unique to D&D.
To the best of my knowledge, it originates in 3.5's Expanded Psionics Handbook (or 3.0's Psionics Handbook... can't remember which).
Further back than that. 2e Dark Sun's box set, City by the Silt Sea. Made up of thousands of minds trapped in a psychic storm on the Ethereal Plane, souls that died in terror as the other Sorcerer-Kings assaulted their city to stop the ascension of Dregoth into a full 30th level dragon.
Dark Sun fans will know what all of that meant.
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I take it that the "caller in darkness" is a mythos based creature, correct?I don't believe so. I think it's unique to D&D.
To the best of my knowledge, it originates in 3.5's Expanded Psionics Handbook (or 3.0's Psionics Handbook... can't remember which).
Further back than that. 2e Dark Sun's box set, City by the Silt Sea. Made up of thousands of minds trapped in a psychic storm on the Ethereal Plane, in the aftermath of the other Sorcerer-Kings' assault upon the city when its Sorcerer-King, Dregoth, was growing far too powerful in his transformations into a dragon.
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I see. I started in late 2e, and only with the Core line. Not surprising that it's a nostalgic callback, though.
Thank you! ^_^
The name definitely sounds like something from Lovecraft but maybe that was what the person who named it wanted us to think;)
More kaiju hopefully *crosses fingers* XD it would be awesome though if Lord Varklops and other kaiju were included in this.
It would be really awesome if Marabbecca or Il-belliegha or any other Well (where you get your water) monster would be in here!
Of all recent discovered mythology monsters the Marabbecca is by far my favorite one.
If Paizo doesn't do it, I hope Kobold Press finds a way to add this awesome critter to one of their Bestiary books!
I am also crossing my fingers for some more Kaiju.
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Funnily enough, in one of the Wayfinder fan magazines, I stated out the Marabbecca. Would still be a okay with an official one.
Anyone else hope we will get some more Alice in Wonderland type creatures?
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Will there be new dinosaurs in B5? If so, may i ask how many?
There are four new dinosaurs
No kaiju (at this point, if/when we do more kaiju stuff... I really REALLY want to do it in a non-hardcover format so that we can actually use Golarion content; building the 3 kaiju in Bestiary 4 without being able to reference any world content was really difficult and disappointing and frustrating).
And only one deep one hybrid.
As for the difference between deep ones and things like gillmen and skum... that was something I tried hard to ensure was in there. Not all of my choices, alas, made it to print, but the deep ones remain a pretty interesting version that doesn't step on the toes of the skum or gillmen and, in fact, augments them pretty well.
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In case anyone was curious about the grays, I come from New Hampshire where the first hugely popularized account of an alien abduction happened (Betty and Barney Hill) and grew up terrified of Unsolved Mysteries alien episodes. So, that all worked into my design.
But also this.
I'm still terrified of the concept of grays as an adult. I hope it effectively shows in my writing :)
Why stop with the Greys? I'd like to go the Ken Hite/John Keel Inhumanoid route and use the Greys, the blond Nordics with their racial purity obsessions, the violent hairy Dwarves (usually South American), the Giants (30+ feet tall in one story!), the cold-hearted Reptoids, and the Qlipotthic-serving Mantids. Of course one could probably do all of them already with existing races and monsters, especially if you use the Occult classes and Tech guide.
And let em say again I enjoy being able to recognize many of the cryptid-inspired critters that show up in Pathfinder bestiaries.
We didn't stop with the grays.