
Steve Geddes |

I purchased basball card holders to house the pawns in. I will also use a page of 5x7 clear plastic holders to hold larger pawns, along with A-Z divider tabs to help keep everything organized. Works very well with the current pawns I own.
Cheers. I figure I'll do something similar, however a set of sleeves suited to the various pawn sizes (maybe a couple of pockets for huges along the bottom, a line of larges and then a few rows of medium/smalls in the top half) would be ideal, in my opinion.

ShinHakkaider |

I like the idea but it is really LAME.
Release a supplement really similar to the MONSTER COMPENDIUMS from 2nd edition that went in the binders.
All that needs to be on those pages are the pictures of the monster.
No stat blocks or anything.
I am tired of using my Bestiaries and covering up the stat blocks and name to reveal to my players what they are dealing with...
Pictures of monsters is what I desire.
I do not use technology at my table therefore hardcopies are preferred.
Is anything like this in the pipeline...?
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE Paizo DONT do something like the MONSTER COMPENDIUMS form 2nd Edition. Those binders and loose leaf type monster pages sucked pretty hard.
I have all these cool aides from Paizo, but I still make time to basic prep for my games and one of the things that I do since I'm a subscriber to both the RPG lines and the AP lines is use the PDF's to help prep my game.
When the PC's are about to face something and I want them to know what it looks like? I open the PDF to the page, copy the image then paste the image to a Word document then Print out the sheet. On the back of that sheet I make whatever notes that I need to for play and when I'm done. I put it in a folder or binder for reuse.
My issue isnt with the binder idea per se but with PAYING for it when it's just as easy to do yourself. And truly my real issue is torn/damaged/missing pages and replacing them. If I buy something like this from Paizo then if soemthing gets damaged I'll have to either pay to get the pages again or wind up printing them out myself again anyway (As Paizo will more than likely have provided a PDF for this hypathetical binder O' monsters..). Why go through all of that when I can print the monsters out myself as needed? and then mark them up as I need too? and when they get damaged I can just reprint them.
I mean I know people like to go on about "Well that's alot of printing youre doing." But then I'm like "Then what the hell is the purpose of having a printer if youre not going to use it an nickle and dime every print job that you do print from it?"
Now being that I've had an ipad for the better part of a year I have another alternative:
(WARNING! Those who HATE tech at the table can avert their eyes now. Also now would be the time to call me a sacriligious heathen and say that I'm playing the game wrong. Thanks.)
Now I do the first thing and instead of printing it I transfer the file to my IPad and when I need to show them what the monster or NPC looks like I just open the file and show them what said beastie or NPC looks like.

eggplantman |

This idea is way overdue and I like a lot of the implementation but the product is limited in a few ways.
First, it does not have every single monster from the main book. No gargantuan or colossal monsters? Unacceptable.
Next, I'm limited in my numbers of monsters. What if I need two manticores or 20 orc warriors? I'm not going to buy multiple boxes.
Paizo needs to make a PDF that has all the monsters from the Bestiary books at the right sizes and perhaps even available as separate downloadable jpg images so they can be printed individually. You could even sell a CD of all the images.
Fiery Dragon is a company that has done just this for 3rd and 4th edition. They made it so you could get all the files in JPG format or custom build a sheet from the images and print it out. When I started playing pathfinder, my major gripe was that a lot of the monsters if PF were not in their product so I had to scan them from the Bestiaries and I did to the best of my ability.
However, if Paizo makes this product with all of the monsters in jpg or pdf format I will buy them right now. That way I would have Paizo's awesome artwork at my fingertips and I could print the encounters as needed. Wouldn't that be grand?

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This idea is way overdue and I like a lot of the implementation but the product is limited in a few ways.
First, it does not have every single monster from the main book. No gargantuan or colossal monsters? Unacceptable.
Next, I'm limited in my numbers of monsters. What if I need two manticores or 20 orc warriors? I'm not going to buy multiple boxes.
Paizo needs to make a PDF that has all the monsters from the Bestiary books at the right sizes and perhaps even available as separate downloadable jpg images so they can be printed individually. You could even sell a CD of all the images.
Fiery Dragon is a company that has done just this for 3rd and 4th edition. They made it so you could get all the files in JPG format or custom build a sheet from the images and print it out. When I started playing pathfinder, my major gripe was that a lot of the monsters if PF were not in their product so I had to scan them from the Bestiaries and I did to the best of my ability.
However, if Paizo makes this product with all of the monsters in jpg or pdf format I will buy them right now. That way I would have Paizo's awesome artwork at my fingertips and I could print the encounters as needed. Wouldn't that be grand?
Go here for paper minis, this is a line of tokens.
Tokens are a cheap alternative to minis, you get however many seems reasonable, you will always have to be adaptive when using an unusual range of enemies.
It seems like you might want to lobby Fiery Dragon to do the same good job they do for 4e for the other big RPG as well.
To be honest, it seems quite arrogant and unrealistic to be telling an experienced and succesful company that their approach is 'unacceptable' and explain what they 'need' to do.
My experience is that manners and respect opens doors and opens minds, it would both be more succesful and more pleasant if you suggested alternatives which you thought might be better. Foot-stamping does not win people over.
I really prize the friendly, supportive tone which is commonplace on these boards.

eggplantman |

eggplantman wrote:This idea is way overdue and I like a lot of the implementation but the product is limited in a few ways.
First, it does not have every single monster from the main book. No gargantuan or colossal monsters? Unacceptable.
Next, I'm limited in my numbers of monsters. What if I need two manticores or 20 orc warriors? I'm not going to buy multiple boxes.
Paizo needs to make a PDF that has all the monsters from the Bestiary books at the right sizes and perhaps even available as separate downloadable jpg images so they can be printed individually. You could even sell a CD of all the images.
Fiery Dragon is a company that has done just this for 3rd and 4th edition. They made it so you could get all the files in JPG format or custom build a sheet from the images and print it out. When I started playing pathfinder, my major gripe was that a lot of the monsters if PF were not in their product so I had to scan them from the Bestiaries and I did to the best of my ability.
However, if Paizo makes this product with all of the monsters in jpg or pdf format I will buy them right now. That way I would have Paizo's awesome artwork at my fingertips and I could print the encounters as needed. Wouldn't that be grand?
Go here for paper minis, this is a line of tokens.
Tokens are a cheap alternative to minis, you get however many seems reasonable, you will always have to be adaptive when using an unusual range of enemies.
It seems like you might want to lobby Fiery Dragon to do the same good job they do for 4e for the other big RPG as well.
To be honest, it seems quite arrogant and unrealistic to be telling an experienced and succesful company that their approach is 'unacceptable' and explain what they 'need' to do.
My experience is that manners and respect opens doors and opens minds, it would both be more succesful and more pleasant if you suggested alternatives which you thought might be...
Not trying to sound arrogant, just trying to offer a suggestion on how to approach the pdf download. Sorry if it came off as a bit abrasive.

Jabborwacky |

Oh, yes. I am going to buy this product.
Same here! Pawns are the perfect compromise between paper minis and miniatures. They're more affordable than plastic miniatures and they have greater staying power than paper minis! I'm still not sure how they'll manage gargantuan or colossal pawns, though, but they might eventually have a box for those as well (probably won't need more than one of each gargantuan or huge creature anyway, given how rare they are to encounter).

Zyzzyx |
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The Core Rulebook iconics will appear in token form before the end of 2013.
Does this also mean that Halfling, Gnomes, and Half Ocrs will get some token love? I'm not finding them in any of the tokens yet.
I'm definitely buying this box when it comes out. I love the tokens from the Beginner Box.
Until then, I guess I will have to use the vegepygmy tokens from this box as halflings... provided the art stays the same as what's found in the book.

Chris Wojcik |

Will be picking this up. Yes with a PDF I can pick up some card stock and make my own 17 more orcs!
Please place me in the character pawn group, will get one of those too.
Please do a boxed set for a few other Adventure paths, even if I have to buy 2 AP's in one set will do that also.
Thanks............
*edit* read the last 2 pages of comments and I will not be getting card stock and printing these, I will print what I need from the PDF and laminate 4-5 pages a week and after a few weeks viola cards I can dry erase on :)

Liz Courts Contributor |
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Will be picking this up. Yes with a PDF I can pick up some card stock and make my own 17 more orcs!
Please place me in the character pawn group, will get one of those too.Please do a boxed set for a few other Adventure paths, even if I have to buy 2 AP's in one set will do that also.
Thanks............
*edit* read the last 2 pages of comments and I will not be getting card stock and printing these, I will print what I need from the PDF and laminate 4-5 pages a week and after a few weeks viola cards I can dry erase on :)
Check out Orcs of Golarion here, as well as everything else available from Pathfinder Paper Minis.

RunDM |

How about multi color, magnetic bases, so we can easily attached conditions to them, or somehow easily attach conditions? My two cents. Not sure that it would work do to the size constraints, but who knows.
How about a pack of 400, to go with the three Pawn sets I just pre-ordered? I'd buy 2!! Of course, there'd be different sizes to include the larger models too. :)

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I just tried to pre-order this.
The shipping (To UK) only allowed one option which cost... $51. So more than the box itself.Same with the NPC box.
Thats a Joke.
Don't be upset with Paizo, It is not their fault that the shipping companies here in the states charge so much for shipping overseas like that. It costs nearly as much to ship to Canada and they are right next to the states as well and not overseas.
So joke or no joke... Paizo does not make a profit from shipping... only the companies that actually DO shipping do.

That 70s Bloke |

That 70s Bloke wrote:I just tried to pre-order this.
The shipping (To UK) only allowed one option which cost... $51. So more than the box itself.Same with the NPC box.
Thats a Joke.
Don't be upset with Paizo, It is not their fault that the shipping companies here in the states charge so much for shipping overseas like that. It costs nearly as much to ship to Canada and they are right next to the states as well and not overseas.
So joke or no joke... Paizo does not make a profit from shipping... only the companies that actually DO shipping do.
I'm not mad at paizo. But it didnt let me use the normal shipping option, which is odd. And the shipping costs for my subs are normally reasonable. I don't know if its asize issue which is understandable or not.

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I'm not mad at paizo. But it didnt let me use the normal shipping option, which is odd. And the shipping costs for my subs are normally reasonable. I don't know if its asize issue which is understandable or not.
I think that is because it is not a book, There is some odd book to non book ratio that needs to be met to get the lower price mark.
You may see a better price if you ship it with you subscription.

Liz Courts Contributor |

This product is not a book, as well as substantially heavier than our normal products, which changes the shipping costs quite a bit, unfortunately (particularly for international customers). The final dimensions (and weight) have yet to get into our system—once that happens, we'll have a better idea of what shipping costs will be.

That 70s Bloke |

This product is not a book, as well as substantially heavier than our normal products, which changes the shipping costs quite a bit, unfortunately (particularly for international customers). The final dimensions (and weight) have yet to get into our system—once that happens, we'll have a better idea of what shipping costs will be.
Thanks. I expected postage to be steep, but the main issue is that i cant select the normal shipping option i use, which hiked the price up. Should the normal shipping option be available? I would add it to go with my subs, but dont want to run the risk of it still costing that much.

Liz Courts Contributor |

Because of the shipping weight of the Bestiary Box, you're bumped into International Priority packaging, which is significantly more expensive (unfortunately). The only options I can recommend at this point is: ordering and shipping the product by itself (least expensive), combining it with subscription products (more expensive because of total shipping weight), or waiting for it to arrive locally. If you're going to order it from us, I would wait until we have a final shipping weight in the system so we have a more accurate idea of what shipping will be—I will post an update in this thread when we have final numbers.

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This product is not a book, as well as substantially heavier than our normal products, which changes the shipping costs quite a bit, unfortunately (particularly for international customers). The final dimensions (and weight) have yet to get into our system—once that happens, we'll have a better idea of what shipping costs will be.
The weight in our system came from weighing a printer proof, and therefore has about a 99% chance of being exactly correct, and a 100% chance of being "really close."

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How often will this product delayed til it finally comes out? First it was scheduled for May, then June and now August. Whats so hard with printing a few colored cardstocks?
This is our first time doing this type of product, so we had to do an unplanned bit of back-and-forth with the printer to get the bleed playing nicely with the dies.

That 70s Bloke |

Because of the shipping weight of the Bestiary Box, you're bumped into International Priority packaging, which is significantly more expensive (unfortunately). The only options I can recommend at this point is: ordering and shipping the product by itself (least expensive), combining it with subscription products (more expensive because of total shipping weight), or waiting for it to arrive locally. If you're going to order it from us, I would wait until we have a final shipping weight in the system so we have a more accurate idea of what shipping will be—I will post an update in this thread when we have final numbers.
Thanks for clearing that up. I guess i will get it locally.
Will the pdf be available seperately? And if so how much will it be ?