Liz Courts Contributor |
Mikaze |
Just so you know, the spoiler in the description really sells it. As soon as I saw "paladin" in the mix you had my money. :)
The wide, almost all-inclusive range of character types supported here is greatly appreciated, and sets a high standard for any other _____ of Golarion paper mini products later down the line.
Liz Courts Contributor |
mike smith 853 |
It seems like in the past people have expressed interest in paper minis for PC's. I know I would buy them. I think that the format that Jack created is so awesome. Two versions of all the core, NPC, and base classes, one for prestige classes, and a few named characters from the setting. Additional versions of location specific orcs like Plains or Desert. Added to that typical animal companions and eidolons. Sir, you've set the bar high.
Creating the Elves/Dwarves/Etc. of Golarion makes perfect sense. But I was thinking how you could do this with the Inner Sea Guide. Typical characters from Galt or Qadira. With what fifty different settings, you could continue to make sets for a long time. And I really think people would appreciate the effort and energy.
Regardless, if nothing else I have an awesome Hold of Belkzen game just waiting to be created.
dartnet |
It seems like in the past people have expressed interest in paper minis for PC's. I know I would buy them.
I would too. It would be helpful as a GM also. +1
I think that the format that Jack created is so awesome.
I agree Mr Jack is a great artiest.
Creating the Elves/Dwarves/Etc. of Golarion makes perfect sense. But I was thinking how you could do this with the Inner Sea Guide. Typical characters from Galt or Qadira. With what fifty different settings, you could continue to make sets for a long time. And I really think people would appreciate the effort and energy.
That would rock! Nothing helps with a game than having a coherent look to the NPCs mins. Like an Arabian Knights look for Qadira mins, also there always seems to be a lack of nonstandard looking PC mins. +2
Callous Jack |
You're welcome. Keep up the good work.Despite my criticism about teh physique, I still think this is a great set, and the sheer variety is already giving me some good RP ideas...
No problem but out of curiosity, what were you looking for? Something closer to the orcs in Warhammer maybe?
Just so you know, the spoiler in the description really sells it. As soon as I saw "paladin" in the mix you had my money. :)
Thanks Mikaze, I hope the paladins lived up to your expectations!
The wide, almost all-inclusive range of character types supported here is greatly appreciated, and sets a high standard for any other _____ of Golarion paper mini products later down the line.
Wow, thanks again,! If you feel like writing a review...
;-)Callous Jack |
It seems like in the past people have expressed interest in paper minis for PC's. I know I would buy them. I think that the format that Jack created is so awesome. Two versions of all the core, NPC, and base classes, one for prestige classes, and a few named characters from the setting. Additional versions of location specific orcs like Plains or Desert. Added to that typical animal companions and eidolons. Sir, you've set the bar high.
Thanks Mike, glad you liked it! Although the credit for the what went into the set was all Liz's idea.
Creating the Elves/Dwarves/Etc. of Golarion makes perfect sense. But I was thinking how you could do this with the Inner Sea Guide. Typical characters from Galt or Qadira. With what fifty different settings, you could continue to make sets for a long time. And I really think people would appreciate the effort and energy.
waiting to be created.
Well, like Liz said, hopefully the set is successful and we'll have that chance to expand into other races! I think it would be great todraw some humans and see Chelaxians, Taldorans, Qadirans and all the rest done!
I'd like to know what race/culture would be at the top of the list for those interested?
Purchased!
I would buy more sets like this one too.
Thanks Mothman! What did you like best about the set?
mike smith 853 |
Hmm, you asked which races/cultures would be at the top of the list. I suppose the first thing to look at is what is needed for future Adventures: Paths or Modules. So a Shackles or a Dragon Empire set sounds like a good idea.
But in general I'd think starting with the race books (both the core ones and the new Ultimate Races) and then moving to the Human race options in the Inner Sea Guide (Chelaxians, Garmundi, Etc.) And then after all those have been done, you could think about the unique locations like the Mana Wastes, Nidal, or Numeria. Those locations would be a lot of fun, but I'm not sure how often they would get used.
Another option could be to throw in some of the unique locations every so often just to spice things up. After all, who isn't interested in Numeria Technic League Fighters?
And to throw out another cool idea: Clerics and Worshipers. Cool looking clerics specific to a God with additional classes that make sense. For example Desna could have a bunch of Clerics with Star-Knives, Bards, Varisian Merchants, etc. I suppose it could be broken up in the Faiths of Purity/Balance books. I think something like that would be great.
Liz Courts Contributor |
My first priority is the Adventure Path sets, but I want to give artists a break after they have finished a set, and the races sets are a good break (and also generic enough for GMs not running an Adventure Path to use).
I have a couple of different sets in mind besides races and APs, but I am always curious to hear what other people are interested in seeing—any discussions on that note should probably be moved to here though, instead of in this thread.
Callous Jack |
I have a couple of different sets in mind besides races and APs, but I am always curious to hear what other people are interested in seeing—any discussions on that note should probably be moved to here though, instead of in this thread.
I made a thread for those interested.
Mikaze |
Indeed it does...that was the plan. :D
I like where this is very likely probably possibly going. :)
Wow, thanks again,! If you feel like writing a review...
;-)
Never written one before, probably should have been doing some. Gotta start somewhere though, so...
And a big +1 to various cultures getting the same treatment down the line(Osirion!).
gigglestick |
No problem but out of curiosity, what were you looking for? Something closer to the orcs in Warhammer maybe?
SOmething like that...or the old Grenadier Orcs. Big, Wide, muscles, underbite, that sort of thing is classic orcs for me. Yours also look good, and not all orcs are powerhouses.
But to me, orcs are big and take up space....
Callous Jack |
Callous Jack wrote:
No problem but out of curiosity, what were you looking for? Something closer to the orcs in Warhammer maybe?SOmething like that...or the old Grenadier Orcs. Big, Wide, muscles, underbite, that sort of thing is classic orcs for me. Yours also look good, and not all orcs are powerhouses.
But to me, orcs are big and take up space....
I understand, I think a lot of people see orcs that way. From the art direction for the set, Paizo seems to see them more like the theatrical LotR orcs which are leaner and less... bulky.
Which Grenadier orcs do you mean? Do you have a link? :)
Liz Courts Contributor |
Venatio |
What kind of mini format does Callous Jack use? From what I have seen of the teasers, the minis are encompassed in a square frame, typically a mid shot. Is that how they all show up on the print pages, or is it more like Ashton Perry's and Crystal Fraiser's where its a full shot on a mirror column with half circle bases?
By the way, what color are the bases? White, black, or the Forest hex scheme on the cover?
Liz Courts Contributor |
What kind of mini format does Callous Jack use? From what I have seen of the teasers, the minis are encompassed in a square frame, typically a mid shot. Is that how they all show up on the print pages, or is it more like Ashton Perry's and Crystal Fraiser's where its a full shot on a mirror column with half circle bases?
By the way, what color are the bases? White, black, or the Forest hex scheme on the cover?
All of the minis are full body, just like Ashton's and Crystal's. The base colors vary depending on the mini's environment: some are cobblestones, others are grassy, etc.
gigglestick |
gigglestick wrote:Callous Jack wrote:
No problem but out of curiosity, what were you looking for? Something closer to the orcs in Warhammer maybe?SOmething like that...or the old Grenadier Orcs. Big, Wide, muscles, underbite, that sort of thing is classic orcs for me. Yours also look good, and not all orcs are powerhouses.
But to me, orcs are big and take up space....
I understand, I think a lot of people see orcs that way. From the art direction for the set, Paizo seems to see them more like the theatrical LotR orcs which are leaner and less... bulky.
Which Grenadier orcs do you mean? Do you have a link? :)
Well, I still like your artwork, so I'm not trying to beat up your orcs too much. It is a worthwhile set to get.
But, since you asked, the 940's orcs here: http://www.miniatures-workshop.com/lostminiswiki/index.php?title=Fantasy_Wa rriors_-_Blister_Packs#949
were some of my iconic orcs back in the dark days of D&D between 1st and 3rd ed, when GURPS, WHFRP, and MERP took over our fantasy RPG time...
Callous Jack |
Venatio wrote:All of the minis are full body, just like Ashton's and Crystal's. The base colors vary depending on the mini's environment: some are cobblestones, others are grassy, etc.What kind of mini format does Callous Jack use? From what I have seen of the teasers, the minis are encompassed in a square frame, typically a mid shot. Is that how they all show up on the print pages, or is it more like Ashton Perry's and Crystal Fraiser's where its a full shot on a mirror column with half circle bases?
By the way, what color are the bases? White, black, or the Forest hex scheme on the cover?
(Thanks Liz!) Also, the teasers are there just to give folks a feel for my style and what they can look forward to in a set. To avoid any confusion, I will point out in future posts that they are cropped. Thanks Venatio!
Callous Jack |
Well, I still like your artwork, so I'm not trying to beat up your orcs too much. It is a worthwhile set to get.
But, since you asked, the 940's orcs here: http://www.miniatures-workshop.com/lostminiswiki/index.php?title=Fantasy_Wa rriors_-_Blister_Packs#949
were some of my iconic orcs back in the dark days of D&D between 1st and 3rd ed, when GURPS, WHFRP, and MERP took over our fantasy RPG time...
No worries, I appreciate the feedback especially as you've been with us from the beginning through the growing pains.
By the way, the link didn't work. :(
gigglestick |
gigglestick wrote:Well, I still like your artwork, so I'm not trying to beat up your orcs too much. It is a worthwhile set to get.
But, since you asked, the 940's orcs here: http://www.miniatures-workshop.com/lostminiswiki/index.php?title=Fantasy_Wa rriors_-_Blister_Packs#949
were some of my iconic orcs back in the dark days of D&D between 1st and 3rd ed, when GURPS, WHFRP, and MERP took over our fantasy RPG time...
No worries, I appreciate the feedback especially as you've been with us from the beginning through the growing pains.
By the way, the link didn't work. :(
I think it will work if you take out the space in wa rriors.
(Or just doa quick search for the site and minis).
Keep up the good work.
gigglestick |
More teasers!
OK, I recently re-read Orcs of Golarian and I can see that your Orcs here match the artwork and style of OOG very well.
Soooo...
I went back and changed my review. For Golarion Orcs, these ARE a perfect match.
(And I have other paper orcs if I want really bulky ones to go along with the Golarion model).
So, keep 'em coming!
Aureus |
Used the minis last session to great success! See a picture of the encounter on Tintenteufel!
Callous Jack |
Used the minis last session to great success! See a picture of the encounter on Tintenteufel!
Awesome, thanks for sharing, Aureus! You even used one of the banners!
How did you end up using them? Was it for a module or AP?
(Unfortunately I can't read the write-up on the link.)
Aureus |
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First of all let me thank you for this set! I used them in our Carrion Crown game for a "random" encounter. Okay I really wanted to have some orcs appear in this campaign. Then was your set released and I was so grateful! I let a player role the two dice from the random encounter table from Trial of the Beast then we built the 13 minis together. I had a long list of my favorite minis from the set, so finding 13 was not that hard!
The orcs attacked in the blood red light of the dying sun from the west, they came from the Hold of Belkzen.
BTW The banners are great! Of course I had to use them!!
Liz Courts Contributor |
Callous Jack |
First of all let me thank you for this set! I used them in our Carrion Crown game for a "random" encounter. Okay I really wanted to have some orcs appear in this campaign. Then was your set released and I was so grateful! I let a player role the two dice from the random encounter table from Trial of the Beast then we built the 13 minis together. I had a long list of my favorite minis from the set, so finding 13 was not that hard!
The orcs attacked in the blood red light of the dying sun from the west, they came from the Hold of Belkzen.
BTW The banners are great! Of course I had to use them!!
Very cool, I'm happy to hear a bunch of the orcs got used! My favorite one is the one you have and front and center in the pic.
As always, if you have any other pics, I'd love to see them and feel free to write a review if you like...
:-)
Callous Jack |
Aureus wrote:BTW The banners are great! Of course I had to use them!!Huzzah! The original plan was to have orcs wearing the clan sigils on them, but the idea to have battle standards (like the Romans did) seems to have worked out well. :D
Yes, Liz is the unsung hero who is responsible for a lot of great ideas in the various sets!
Liz Courts Contributor |
MJinthePitt |
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I picked this pack of paper miniatures up last week not really sure if I was actually going to be needing any Orcs for a homebrew that I was running on Friday evening. Turns out I ended up not including any dungeon-dwelling Orcs but after looking through the PC-oriented Orcs I immediately changed three NPC characters into Orcs!
They went from being three probably non-descript NPCs to suddenly being the "Green Guys" in the corner of the bar. The paper minis worked out perfectly.
Also loved the various tribes of Orcs - plains, mountain, etc. This led me to introduce plains and woodland Goblins into the brand new campaign setting.
Can't wait for my players to run into their first horde of Orcs!
Callous Jack |
I picked this pack of paper miniatures up last week not really sure if I was actually going to be needing any Orcs for a homebrew that I was running on Friday evening. Turns out I ended up not including any dungeon-dwelling Orcs but after looking through the PC-oriented Orcs I immediately changed three NPC characters into Orcs!
They went from being three probably non-descript NPCs to suddenly being the "Green Guys" in the corner of the bar. The paper minis worked out perfectly.
Also loved the various tribes of Orcs - plains, mountain, etc. This led me to introduce plains and woodland Goblins into the brand new campaign setting.
Can't wait for my players to run into their first horde of Orcs!
Thank you for sharing your thought, MJinthePitt!
I'm glad the minis are working out for you. :) If you do use a horde, I hope to see pics!Swashbuckles |
Great artwork Jack! I haven't had a chance to use the PC-geared minis yet, and only a handful of the horde-themed ones so far, but I've loved the non-orc creatures and monsters included, they add a great amount of versatility to the already varied set of orcs in the set.
I encountered an issue with the page of "Slaver Orcs" (page 12, with the fighter and biter dogs). The semicircular bases line up perfectly, so I don't think it was a printing or folding error, but the actual mirrored orc images are laterally misaligned, they don't overlap like they ought to. It hasn't happened on any of the other pages I've printed, but it might be worth looking into and correcting (if I'm right, that is).
Other than that, it's a great set and an otherwise-happy purchase, thanks for creating it!
Callous Jack |
It would be awesome if they existed in line art as well as colour for the colour printer challenged.
Hi PDG, thanks for your thoughts. That's a new request that I have not seen before. Anyone else interested?
Oh and the pdf was updated and sent so I hope to see it posted soon.