Its the amount Colossal minis I was concerned with.... 3 figures in a 7 or 8 year span just didn't seem like it was too lucrative of a venture. Otherwise I would think they would have put more Colossal figs out.
WOTC made 3 Gargantuan dragons......A Gargantuan ORCUS.....and a Colossal Red dragon for way cheaper than Wizkids did with the Colossal Heroclix minis..
I kind of got away with murder when the Colossal Red came out. Amazon initially offered it for $32.99 and i opened up a new Amazon.com credit card so I got $30 off my first purchase. I got it for $2.99. Then a week later they raised the price to $75 because they realized $32.99 was'nt going to make money. Right time, right place.
I have the colossal dragon from Hasbro. It was $75 I think. THat is a lot of money for a mini you will use maybe twice, though it does display nice minus the silly breath weapon prop.
I like the colossal minis, but one method I use is find a Dungeon tile with the appropriate base size and then stick a nice representative mini on it. It seems to work pretty well.
Fact of the matter is, a colossal mini is going to expensive.
This is the first item put out by Paizo that I am reluctant to purchase. I have been keeping tabs on the discussion thread hoping for more information. Here are the Pros and Cons.
Cons in order of my pain with them
1) Lack of information – My main issue here is not knowing all of the minis that are in the set. I am waiting as long as possible to see what the list of figures are, but this requires a large leap of faith. I realize that this is a WizKids issue. Paizo has been awesome, as usual, at getting us the info as best as they can, and in providing background on business decisions made for the product line.
2) Costs – I understand why it costs what it does, this would still be the single largest purchase I have made via Paizo. I have easily spent more than this on product via Paizo and 3pp, but having buyer’s remorse on a $10 item is not as bad as $300.
3) The Wife – since this won’t be charged until December, and the wife wants a color Knook (sp?) for Christmas, I think that this is now a wash. Not a pro but not really a con.
4) Storage space – I used to collect 40K, so storage space can become an issue. I am also in the military, so weight is a concern, due to PCSing, however, they are plastic.
Pros
1) At our gaming session this weekend, we used both the paper minis and my friends pre-painted minis from that other company. While I enjoyed the paper minis, the pre-painted ones were cooler. I for see us using both though until a wider range of minis is produce.
2) Paizo – They have an almost perfect batting average on everything I have purchased from them for use in our gaming. I would like to have received the beginners box of pre-painted minis though to get a better idea of the quality I can expect from the upcoming set.
3) If I were to start collecting minis, I want to support the company that provides me and my gaming group amazing value for the dollar. We don’t have to purchase all that we do, but when you look at the number of hours of enjoyment and the number of people who play, the cost per hour of entertainment goes down and is cheaper than a movie, and you get to keep your ticket. Plus it is awesome to have my 2.8 year old roll dice for me, as the GM, and end up destroying the players due to his ability to roll nothing lower than 15 on 30+ rolls.
4) The dragon.
Stuff I would like to see in the future
1) Specific sets built to address low level critters requiring many of each model, with multiple poses, like a bunch of orcs, kobolds, skeletons etc – I believe this has been addressed though
2) I would love to see some of the runelords – that would make an awesome mini, ginormous, but cool
3) I would love to see farm animals, horses, carts, chests, civilians, bar keeps, farmers, ranchers, blacksmiths, some day. Not everyone you need to represent is a hero or a villain
4) I would stay out of terrain, lots of people doing that
5) I really don’t have an interest in a game built around the minis, there are already companies that do that exceptionally well
6) I look forward to purchasing minis in singles, in the future, from the Paizo store
7) A complete list of minis in future sets, would be really nice and make pulling the trigger on the purchase easier
Thanks for reading, for what it is worth.
Cheers,
James
I have the colossal dragon from Hasbro. It was $75 I think. THat is a lot of money for a mini you will use maybe twice, though it does display nice minus the silly breath weapon prop.
I have two of them. One I got right away, the other one after they become significantly cheaper.
Fact of the matter is, a colossal mini is going to expensive.
That is true.
But as long as it is going to be cheaper than the Archangel Michael Ubi has made/commissioned as a Might and Magic: Heroes VI collectible, it will be okay ;-).
Seriously, that thing is nice, it's 37cm tall and over 60cm wide (26cm without wings), but I'm not going to shell out 250 € for the thing.
1) Lack of information – My main issue here is not knowing all of the minis that are in the set.
Well, that is one of the things about collectible items - they don't reveal everything until close to the release.
However, I think from what we have already seen and from the fact that Paizo seems to be heavily involved in the selection process, we can extrapolate and be all but assured of a nice selection.
I have easily spent more than this on product via Paizo and 3pp, but having buyer’s remorse on a $10 item is not as bad as $300.
That is true. Still, I refer to what I wrote above: I'm quite confident that the buyer's remorse will be kept to a bare minimum.
That sounds weird. Well, par for the course that is yours truly, but let me rephrase: I think the chances that after seeing the previews, we will be disappointed should be small.
3) The Wife – since this won’t be charged until December, and the wife wants a color Knook (sp?) for Christmas, I think that this is now a wash. Not a pro but not really a con.
You mean Nook. Knook seems to be something related to knitting - I'm sure you could get that a lot cheaper than an e-reader, though injuries from knitting needles are possible in that scenario... :D
2) Paizo – They have an almost perfect batting average on everything I have purchased from them for use in our gaming. I would like to have received the beginners box of pre-painted minis though to get a better idea of the quality I can expect from the upcoming set.
From all reports, the quality is going to be through the roof. But it's true that it would be great to have the beginners box set soon - not just to get a first look at the actual minis. Also because of severe impatience.
my 2.8 year old
You're using decimal years? Wow, that level of commitment to metrics exceeds even my own! ;-P
roll dice for me, as the GM, and end up destroying the players due to his ability to roll nothing lower than 15 on 30+ rolls.
The force is strong in this one. The GMing force. I always maintain that the ability to have fiendish while rolling dice behind the GM screen is one of the main signs by which you can recognise a good GM.
I'm sometimes almost appalled at how much high rolls I get behind the screen (especially compared to spells or really bad dice luck in front of the screen). But only almost. ;-)
Stuff I would like to see in the future
1) Specific sets built to address low level critters requiring many of each model, with multiple poses, like a bunch of orcs, kobolds, skeletons etc – I believe this has been addressed though
There probably won't be any sets like these (set meaning set of collectible, random minis), though encounter packs might get close, being non-random packs of thematically related critters taken from the random sets (maybe with a different colour palette).
2) I would love to see some of the runelords – that would make an awesome mini, ginormous, but cool
Ginormous? Runelords were humans, making them perfectly fine for normal boosters. The second set is going to be Rise of the Runelords. I think it is 200% assured (or more) that one certain runelord will make an appearance.
If you mean rune giants, I would consider them a prime candidate for the RotRL premium miniature.
3) I would love to see farm animals, horses, carts, chests, civilians, bar keeps, farmers, ranchers, blacksmiths, some day. Not everyone you need to represent is a hero or a villain
As I said before: I'd be okay with it, but the use of non-combatants has to be severely limited. The simple matter is that they're not normally taking part in fights, and in many of the situations where they do, no mat or minis are required. For the rest, I think using anything else is a good enough approximation. Better to have the actual enemies you encounter in 99% of encounters in the typical campaign represented before you go into odd-ball cases.
One such miniature in a set of 60 is okay, but more is pushing it.
The same goes for farm animals.
Horses are okay, because they will be in the fight a lot more often - either as mounts for mounted combatants or when you are ambushed on the road and get off your horse for fighting (sometimes, the horses cannot retreat to a safe distance).
Props are even less welcome than non-combatants. Though a mimic that looks like a chest (albeit one with teeth and so on) will be okay.
5) I really don’t have an interest in a game built around the minis, there are already companies that do that exceptionally well
Still, it would be a great addition for those who do. As long as it doesn't take away too much time from Paizo's other products. And as long as it won't turn otherwise average figures into chase rares because of the stats.
7) A complete list of minis in future sets, would be really nice and make pulling the trigger on the purchase easier
I doubt the procedure will change. It's still WizKids' choice, and they don't reveal whole sets until just before the release for marketing reasons. It's not as if DDM was revealed months in advance.
This gradual release of information does increase the customers' anticipation, and that is quite important for the sales numbers.
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Farms animals ? I use the ones from my 3 years old daughter. They are roughly the ideal size.... Roughly I said though the chickens are more Small Size than Tiny but well .... I'd rather have something that fit 99% of my fights as said by Kaye yoss (a wise man if you ask me although living on the other side of the Rhine ;o) ).
This is the first item put out by Paizo that I am reluctant to purchase. I have been keeping tabs on the discussion thread hoping for more information. Here are the Pros and Cons.
Cons in order of my pain with them
1) Lack of information – My main issue here is not knowing all of the minis that are in the set. I am waiting as long as possible to see what the list of figures are, but this requires a large leap of faith. I realize that this is a WizKids issue. Paizo has been awesome, as usual, at getting us the info as best as they can, and in providing background on business decisions made for the product line.
I actually don't want everything revealed. Well on Friday I am ordering a case, and it is a little like Christmas. So far I know MOSTLY what I am going to get, but maybe there are some cool surprises.
Like 1983 Christmas, I KNEW I was getting Soundwave, Sunstreaker, SIdeswipe, and Thundercracker. What I didn't know was I was getting Ratchet as well. Even though Ratchet was not asked for it was cooler because it was a complete surprise!
2) Costs – I understand why it costs what it does, this would still be the single largest purchase I have made via Paizo. I have easily spent more than this on product via Paizo and 3pp, but having buyer’s remorse on a $10 item is not as bad as $300.
I have been feeling the pinch I won't lie. I am cutting my comic NYCC comic con budget short to get this.
3) The Wife – since this won’t be charged until December, and the wife wants a color Knook (sp?) for Christmas, I think that this is now a wash. Not a pro but not really a con.
Do your wife is neither a professional or a conwoman. Well that is good to know I suppose. If she was a con though, she might be able to swindle someone out of their money so you could get both the Kindle and the Case. Wow that is a title for a short story.
4) Storage space – I used to collect 40K, so storage space can become an issue. I am also in the military, so weight is a concern, due to PCSing, however, they are plastic.
GEEZ. I was in the USN during the second edition days. I NEVER carried minis with me. My books were hard enough. Keep them at a relatives house until you separate. UNless your a lifer which is admirable.
Pros
1) At our gaming session this weekend, we used both the paper minis and my friends pre-painted minis from that other company. While I enjoyed the paper minis, the pre-painted ones were cooler. I for see us using both though until a wider range of minis is produce.
This is why it is important to have your wife swindle people out of money. Pre painted minis are cool.
2) Paizo – They have an almost perfect batting average on everything I have purchased from them for use in our gaming. I would like to have received the beginners box of pre-painted minis though to get a better idea of the quality I can expect from the upcoming set.
I like what I have seen so far, and I buy alot of things on faith from Paizo. I have not been disappointed yet.
I like you though would like to see 'theme sets.' I will deal with the randomness until they treat me to a set of 'gnolls'.
I actually don't want everything revealed. Well on Friday I am ordering a case, and it is a little like Christmas. So far I know MOSTLY what I am going to get, but maybe there are some cool surprises.
Like 1983 Christmas, I KNEW I was getting Soundwave, Sunstreaker, SIdeswipe, and Thundercracker. What I didn't know was I was getting Ratchet as well. Even though Ratchet was not asked for it was cooler because it was a complete surprise!
How about you then just avoid threads that have details and go in blind? Why does everyone else have to be forced to not know what they are buying merely because you don't want to know?
Seems similar to the thinking of those people that say there shouldn't be random because they don't like random, even though they can get non-random on the secondary market just as easily (if you are already purchasing from Paizo, just go to their singles page when it comes up).
The ettin is very cool but I think the Human Ranger is my favorite mini so far! Very nice action pose!
I know it is nitpicking, but that knife on his leg just annoys the hell out of me. I just look so silly. Tucked in the boot, ok. Two straps holding it pressed against the leg, ok. But one strap so it can spin and get caught on things, nope. I might have to cut it off and/or reposition it.
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If this is something that has been covered, my apologies. There are a lot of posts, and I admit I haven't been following this thread.
That said, the other day I heard that Wizkids had an exclusive deal with Alliance; as a result, the Paizo pre-painted minis will only be carried through Alliance. Is this true?
Apparently some stores don't like to get their stuff through Alliance. Don't really know why, but the store down the street is apparently one of them. The owner was complaining about it, feeling Paizo was allowing itself to be strong armed by Alliance. He then made a good point: Paizo has what is probably the #1 RPG in the country & should be strong arming Alliance.
If all of this is true, I kind of have to agree. Paizo seems to be the 800 lb gorilla in the room right now, which seems like a good place to be to get others to cooperate.
I'm not in the industry, I don't know what Alliance's deal is or why some stores don't want to deal with them, I'm just curious what the situation is.
WizKids has an exclusive distribution agreement with Alliance, which is the largest hobby game distributor in America. Because, as you note, some stores prefer to deal with smaller distributors, we arranged with WizKids a way that Paizo can act as a wholesaler to other distributors. They don't get quite the same discount that WizKids offers Alliance (and Alliance passes on to their stores), but they can still get them if they want them.
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My original post on the Colossal issue says we do not _currently_ have plans to do Colossal minis. As someone else pointed out, the Colossal minis in the Rise of the Runelords AP are a giant bird and a big chain, so those seemed like pretty pointless choices.
We're currently working on Gargantuan minis. If the right opportunity comes by for a Colossal mini we think lots of people would be interested in adding to their collection, I'm sure we'll consider it.
But for now, we're still working on our very first big set, so give us time, please!
I actually don't want everything revealed. Well on Friday I am ordering a case, and it is a little like Christmas. So far I know MOSTLY what I am going to get, but maybe there are some cool surprises.
Like 1983 Christmas, I KNEW I was getting Soundwave, Sunstreaker, SIdeswipe, and Thundercracker. What I didn't know was I was getting Ratchet as well. Even though Ratchet was not asked for it was cooler because it was a complete surprise!How about you then just avoid threads that have details and go in blind? Why does everyone else have to be forced to not know what they are buying merely because you don't want to know?
How about not!
YES YES! I am FORCING everyone to go in blind! It logically follows that since I must see what the previews are, Paizo should serve me and not tempt me. So yes you all should be forced to go in blind "merely because I do not want to know"
The only problem with that theory is that Wizkids can handle miniatures on that scale, and have in the past with Heroclix. They've done Fin Fang Foom, Galactus and the Spectre which would all be in the Colossal scale.
So, like I said, I would'nt be surprised if Paizo farmed out the work that Wizkids cannot do to other companies all the while keeping the business that WizKids can do, with Wizkids.
You're forgetting the most important Colossal WizKids mini of all...
My original post on the Colossal issue says we do not _currently_ have plans to do Colossal minis. As someone else pointed out, the Colossal minis in the Rise of the Runelords AP are a giant bird and a big chain, so those seemed like pretty pointless choices.
We're currently working on Gargantuan minis. If the right opportunity comes by for a Colossal mini we think lots of people would be interested in adding to their collection, I'm sure we'll consider it.
But for now, we're still working on our very first big set, so give us time, please!
Ok Erik, thanks on the clarification.
Yes, your original post did have 'currently' in it, however, it also stressed no plans to do _any_ Colossal minis followed with "at all", so it did sound like the likelihood was not there even for the future.
I thought I had heard there were more Colossal minis in RotRL. I agree, a bird and a chain are not good choices. To be honest, I was thinking the Rune Lords were Colossal, but I am guessing they are Gargantuan.
However, as long as the option is there later on for Colossals if the opportunity seems right, that's all I want to hear. :)
...Farms animals ? I use the ones from my 3 years old daughter.
Your three-year-old has farm animals? Isn't it too much responsibility for the kid?
Ba-da-bing! :D
Kaye yoss (a wise man if you ask me although living on the other side of the Rhine ;o) ).
Other side of the Rhine? So you're an Eastsider?
If the right opportunity comes by for a Colossal mini we think lots of people would be interested in adding to their collection, I'm sure we'll consider it.
Beyond all sorts of really big dragons and draconic critters, the Tarrasque would be real cool.
And so would a colossal centipede, though I admit that I want one merely to poke fun at a fellow player (and occasionally GM) who managed to confuse centipede with serpent, which meant that once, a large big critter that was busy constricting a tower suddenly grew a whole lot of legs! (He hasn't lived that one down yet ;-)).
You're forgetting the most important Colossal WizKids mini of all...The only problem with that theory is that Wizkids can handle miniatures on that scale, and have in the past with Heroclix. They've done Fin Fang Foom, Galactus and the Spectre which would all be in the Colossal scale.
So, like I said, I would'nt be surprised if Paizo farmed out the work that Wizkids cannot do to other companies all the while keeping the business that WizKids can do, with Wizkids.
Hehehehe.....
I got a buddy who picked up the Cthulu figure.
Would have worked great back in the day for an adventure we did in Call of Cthulu.....Of course we would have all gone insane instantly.
Notone of my favorite game systems.
My original post on the Colossal issue says we do not _currently_ have plans to do Colossal minis. As someone else pointed out, the Colossal minis in the Rise of the Runelords AP are a giant bird and a big chain, so those seemed like pretty pointless choices.
We're currently working on Gargantuan minis. If the right opportunity comes by for a Colossal mini we think lots of people would be interested in adding to their collection, I'm sure we'll consider it.
But for now, we're still working on our very first big set, so give us time, please!
Tarrasque! Who wouldn't want to plop the Tarrasque down in front of their players? :p
I don't remember what size they are, but I'd *love* to see some Rune Giants! (Gargantuan? I'll look it up later :-) ) I love that artwork (cover art perhaps?) that shows the Rune Giants with Valeros and Merisiel.
Tarrasque! Who wouldn't want to plop the Tarrasque down in front of their players? :pMy original post on the Colossal issue says we do not _currently_ have plans to do Colossal minis. As someone else pointed out, the Colossal minis in the Rise of the Runelords AP are a giant bird and a big chain, so those seemed like pretty pointless choices.
We're currently working on Gargantuan minis. If the right opportunity comes by for a Colossal mini we think lots of people would be interested in adding to their collection, I'm sure we'll consider it.
But for now, we're still working on our very first big set, so give us time, please!
How often is a creature like that used? Aside from the fact its nearly unbeatable. Thats for one of those sessions when you've had enough from the players and your ready for a Total Party Kill. hehehehe.
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BTW, for folks who really want Colossal miniatures in the Rise of the Runelords set, my best suggestion is to use a dead bird for the Roc (or a live, very patient bird) and an actual chain for the chain.
That should work pretty well! :)
I hope you are not meaning freshly dead. Pew! A nice stuffed Hawk might work.
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BTW, for folks who really want Colossal miniatures in the Rise of the Runelords set, my best suggestion is to use a dead bird for the Roc (or a live, very patient bird) and an actual chain for the chain.
That should work pretty well! :)
Or a less gross option would be a craft store decor bird, usually life-size for putting in wreaths or fake nests. Still whomping down on the pc's minis with a chain would be fun...
Or a less gross option would be a craft store decor bird, usually life-size for putting in wreaths or fake nests. Still whomping down on the pc's minis with a chain would be fun...BTW, for folks who really want Colossal miniatures in the Rise of the Runelords set, my best suggestion is to use a dead bird for the Roc (or a live, very patient bird) and an actual chain for the chain.
That should work pretty well! :)
Toys 'R Us has this 2-foot long rubber alligator that I use from time to time, that's pretty impressive, as is the similarly-sized shark.
How often is a creature like that used? Aside from the fact its nearly unbeatable. Thats for one of those sessions when you've had enough from the players and your ready for a Total Party Kill. hehehehe.Tarrasque! Who wouldn't want to plop the Tarrasque down in front of their players? :pMy original post on the Colossal issue says we do not _currently_ have plans to do Colossal minis. As someone else pointed out, the Colossal minis in the Rise of the Runelords AP are a giant bird and a big chain, so those seemed like pretty pointless choices.
We're currently working on Gargantuan minis. If the right opportunity comes by for a Colossal mini we think lots of people would be interested in adding to their collection, I'm sure we'll consider it.
But for now, we're still working on our very first big set, so give us time, please!
Which is exactly what they'll think. Then you tell them that it is in fact, only a Mu Spore (Bestiary 2) or perhaps a Thanatotic Titan or maybe even, a Great Red Wyrm Ravener. They'll be so relieved! :p
Any idea on shipping costs for a case and the dragon? USPS Priority mail to Guam, zip 96929?
I don't see a weight nor case dimension size.
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...Farms animals ? I use the ones from my 3 years old daughter.Your three-year-old has farm animals? Isn't it too much responsibility for the kid?
Ba-da-bing! :D
Kaye yoss (a wise man if you ask me although living on the other side of the Rhine ;o) ).Other side of the Rhine? So you're an Eastsider?
Cheeky Monkey... I'm on the west side of the Rhine as I smell of garlic and eat snails and horse meat everyday and wear a silly little beret with a stripes shirt.
Any idea on shipping costs for a case and the dragon? USPS Priority mail to Guam, zip 96929?
I don't see a weight nor case dimension size.
Thanks
Estimated shipping costs are easily calculated adding the item to your shopping cart and going through the checkout process enough to add your address information to the order.
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BTW, for folks who really want Colossal miniatures in the Rise of the Runelords set, my best suggestion is to use a dead bird for the Roc (or a live, very patient bird) and an actual chain for the chain.
That should work pretty well! :)
Wait, you say we should get a dead bird as a miniature? How dreadful!
I'm sure PETA will be around shortly to harass you, they will gather many female celebrities like Olivia Wilde, Morena Baccarin and Scarlett Johansson and take pictures of them naked for their next propaganda campaign "Better nekkid than Pathfinder" or something illogical and degrading to women.
Hm......
Come to think of it, could you put the dead bird idea on the blog, on friendface and triller or whatever those damn kids use nowadays? :D
Since we're talking about dead rocs: My Kingmaker group recently fought a roc. They killed it. And then they dragged it to their capital and made one hell of a barbecue.
How often is a creature like that used? Aside from the fact its nearly unbeatable. Thats for one of those sessions when you've had enough from the players and your ready for a Total Party Kill. hehehehe.
If I had a Big T miniature, I'd use it every single encounter!
As the actual enemy's familiar.....
What are the "perks" from purchasing directly from paizo. I have found the cases and the dragon for sale at over $100 less than here.
There is no real perk. They usually stick to the "sticker" price for their stuff (and though this is not, technically, their own stuff, it's the next best thing, as they probably get a really nice price).
Cheeky Monkey... I'm on the west side of the Rhine as I smell of garlic and eat snails and horse meat everyday and wear a silly little beret with a stripes shirt....Farms animals ? I use the ones from my 3 years old daughter.Your three-year-old has farm animals? Isn't it too much responsibility for the kid?
Ba-da-bing! :D
Kaye yoss (a wise man if you ask me although living on the other side of the Rhine ;o) ).Other side of the Rhine? So you're an Eastsider?
I'm on the west side of the Rhine, too. I'm from the Land of Schwenker and UrPils. For a couple of years I lived close enough to France that I could have walked there, and even now I could be there in under an hour.
You're forgetting the most important Colossal WizKids mini of all...The only problem with that theory is that Wizkids can handle miniatures on that scale, and have in the past with Heroclix. They've done Fin Fang Foom, Galactus and the Spectre which would all be in the Colossal scale.
So, like I said, I would'nt be surprised if Paizo farmed out the work that Wizkids cannot do to other companies all the while keeping the business that WizKids can do, with Wizkids.
I've got the red dragon and this one and I have to say I prefer this one!
Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn!
If this is something that has been covered, my apologies. There are a lot of posts, and I admit I haven't been following this thread.
That said, the other day I heard that Wizkids had an exclusive deal with Alliance; as a result, the Paizo pre-painted minis will only be carried through Alliance. Is this true?
Apparently some stores don't like to get their stuff through Alliance. Don't really know why, but the store down the street is apparently one of them. The owner was complaining about it, feeling Paizo was allowing itself to be strong armed by Alliance. He then made a good point: Paizo has what is probably the #1 RPG in the country & should be strong arming Alliance.
If all of this is true, I kind of have to agree. Paizo seems to be the 800 lb gorilla in the room right now, which seems like a good place to be to get others to cooperate.
I'm not in the industry, I don't know what Alliance's deal is or why some stores don't want to deal with them, I'm just curious what the situation is.
I might be able to shed a little light here for you wspatterson. Wizkids does have an exclusive distribution deal with Alliance but our partnership with Wizkids will allow us to sell to the rest of the distributors in the hobby industry. We're mainly passing along the best possible pricing we can to them (which is a little worse than the pricing they can get through Alliance) so all stores have the same access to the minis. Let your FLGS know so they can get them in their store...we received a sample of the finished product today and the look GREAT!!!!
Wait, you say we should get a dead bird as a miniature? How dreadful!
Hmmmm...
How dreadful!
How deradful!
How derwdful!
How derwoful!
How woderful!
How wonderful!
How wonderful!
Fixed that for you.
Thanks Liz for the obvious answer! Lol, just purchased my case, I think I just rolled a 20, will find out on Christmas!
Thanks Paizo for fueling my addiction.
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I'm sure PETA will be around shortly to harass you, they will gather many female celebrities like Olivia Wilde, Morena Baccarin and Scarlett Johansson and take pictures of them naked for their next propaganda campaignYes, please.
I'm sure PETA will be around shortly to harass you, they will gather many female celebrities like Olivia Wilde, Morena Baccarin and Scarlett Johansson and take pictures of them naked for their next propaganda campaignLink please!
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Mazra
I see my ideas were received well again.
In fact, I'm convinced that fur would have died off as a piece of clothing if not for PETA. Every time they strip another woman naked and put her in a cage or something, men all over the world run and buy some more furs so PETA keeps going nuts and degrading women some more.
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Be that as it may, the question is, do we know what the underside of the base will look like? In other words, will it have data imprinted there as to name, rarity and, number, date and set, as the WotC minis do?
The bottoms of all Pathfinder Battles bases will contain collector numbers and some sort of set icon. We may be going with initials rather than goofy pictures, though, so 15 sets in people don't have to remember which set was the little crown and which set was the little bone.
We don't currently have plans to mark a mini's rarity on the bottom of the base, though this may change since we haven't actually done bases for a set with rarity yet (the Beginner Box Heroes four-miniature set, which we have completed, has the same rarity for every figure).
You'll be able to extrapolate the date of production by the copyright statement on the bottom of the base.
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Be that as it may, the question is, do we know what the underside of the base will look like? In other words, will it have data imprinted there as to name, rarity and, number, date and set, as the WotC minis do?
The bottoms of all Pathfinder Battles bases will contain collector numbers and some sort of set icon. We may be going with initials rather than goofy pictures, though, so 15 sets in people don't have to remember which set was the little crown and which set was the little bone.
We don't currently have plans to mark a mini's rarity on the bottom of the base, though this may change since we haven't actually done bases for a set with rarity yet (the Beginner Box Heroes four-miniature set, which we have completed, has the same rarity for every figure).
You'll be able to extrapolate the date of production by the copyright statement on the bottom of the base.
15 sets in! I like the sound of that. Thanks for the info.
Later,
Mazra
"Standard Boosters contain 1 Medium or 2 Small miniatures."
Wow. I had to read through the discussion to make sure that wasn't a typo.
I love you guys and I really wanted this idea to go well, from when I heard about it on a podcast.
But seriously? $2-4 (not counting shipping, which makes it $3.5-4.5) for 2 plastic figures tops?
No thanks.
Past Wizkids products had more value (and figures) for the buck (and those were slightly larger, with moving parts).
I'll just use old Mage Knight figures off eBay.
"Standard Boosters contain 1 Medium or 2 Small miniatures."
Wow. I had to read through the discussion to make sure that wasn't a typo.
I love you guys and I really wanted this idea to go well, from when I heard about it on a podcast.
But seriously? $2-4 (not counting shipping, which makes it $3.5-4.5) for 2 plastic figures tops?
No thanks.
Past Wizkids products had more value (and figures) for the buck (and those were slightly larger, with moving parts).
I'll just use old Mage Knight figures off eBay.
Ah, this old chestnut.
There's a whole angry thread about that very topic, by the way. Heck, maybe it was this very thread, I don't feel like searching for it.
All I can tell ya is that the topic has been beat to death, raised, tarred and feathered, incinerated in a wicker man and then true rezzed in order to beat it some more :)
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"Standard Boosters contain 1 Medium or 2 Small miniatures."
Wow. I had to read through the discussion to make sure that wasn't a typo.
I love you guys and I really wanted this idea to go well, from when I heard about it on a podcast.
But seriously? $2-4 (not counting shipping, which makes it $3.5-4.5) for 2 plastic figures tops?
No thanks.
Past Wizkids products had more value (and figures) for the buck (and those were slightly larger, with moving parts).
I'll just use old Mage Knight figures off eBay.
Ah, this old chestnut.
There's a whole angry thread about that very topic, by the way. Heck, maybe it was this very thread, I don't feel like searching for it.
All I can tell ya is that the topic has been beat to death, raised, tarred and feathered, incinerated in a wicker man and then true rezzed in order to beat it some more :)
I know it has been beat to death, but there are new people reading the thread all the time, and many aren't reading through 34 plus pages of post. And I can't rightfully blame them!
The best plan if you can swing the price is to buy a case. With 64 regular boosters and 12 large boosters, and with many of the regular boosters containing two small miniatures, you should get around 90 to 100 miniatures in a case. That would be around $3.00 each. Plus if you pre-order your case....let's see.... by TOMORROW (September 30th), you will get to order the Promo Huge Black Dragon. (Maybe Paizo will extend this since there are still two months away from release....I am just saying!)
Now for a lot of people $3.00 per miniature is a lot to swallow. I get this. But since Wizkids, with Paizo's guidance, is making miniatures of what appears to be very high quality for PPMs, then these babies may be really hot in the aftermarket. They could be so hot, that $3.00 a piece will be SUCH A DEAL!!!
The DDM set Lords of Madness had an Elder Blue Dragon that was Super Rare. This puppy is selling for over $50.00 now. There is no reason that the Huge Black as a promo should not command similar levels if not higher in the aftermarket. Bottom-line your best bet to guarantee getting this miniatures at a price point that is reasonable is by buying a case. Of course, that is if you would want the complete set, which Paizo has said, barring human error, you should get a full set with a case purchase.
Later,
Mazra