Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Ultimate Combat (OGL)

Anyone know what the creature on the cover is called?

Anyone know what the creature on the cover is called?

I believe those are yetis (though I'm sure Valeros has been called "creature" a few times in his life.)

Seems like there's a misprint in Ultimate Combat in the section on Musket Master Archetype Gunslingers (page 50)

Weapon Proficiency: A musket master only gains
proficiency with two-handed firearms. She must take the
Exotic Weapon Proficiency (firearm) feat to gain proficiency
with two-handed firearms and firearm siege engines.

Seems like it should read

Weapon Proficiency: A musket master only gains
proficiency with two-handed firearms. She must take the
Exotic Weapon Proficiency (firearm) feat to gain proficiency
with ONE-handed firearms and firearm siege engines.

or

Weapon Proficiency: A musket master only gains
proficiency with two-handed firearms. She must take the
Exotic Weapon Proficiency (firearm) feat to gain proficiency
with all firearms.

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Looking at the Martial Artist and I'm really digging it. However I did notice the lack of a ability at 12th level. This means they retain Abundant step, which they can't utilize without ki.

It's a known issue :)

SO...
Where's the donning table for the eastern armor?
the western armor is very specific about what armor takes how long to make, but there's no equivalent for the eastern armor.

Anyone know what the two white creatures they are fighting on the cover are? My group tells me they are yeti but they look to civilized, intelligent and more human than beast to be yeti.

Last I heard, they were yetis.

Strange yetis, but yetis nonetheless.

I myself don't like guns in any setting real or otherwise.

Agreed. Guns make D&D boring and shouldn't be included in this book. it should have its own book or supplement like psionics.

Where do I have to post to get someone to give an official look at the range on the Double Barrel Musket? Its been reproduced a few times and the 10 ft. range just seems wrong. Its causing, I'm sure, a lot of arguments on your boards and in home games. Not to mention by the rules it completely makes PFS Double Barrel Muskets unreasonable. Someone just needs to give us a "Yes this is in fact the correct range" or "No, XX is supposed to be the correct range."

In the rules forum, and hitting the FAQ button.

This has been done a gazillion times and no one ever replies because not enough people hit the FAQ button. I just know its a mistake and everyone else agrees but no one wants to fix the information or even address it...

Speaking of this, it's been over a year now. Any salespeople (Monkies) able to mention whether or not this book is on the verge of another printing?

We don't announce reprints until they're in-house and ready to ship, at which point we'll update our PDFs with any errata that went into the reprint. So, no updates to speak of—sorry!

Hopefully they'll add an update on the Pistolero's pistol training ability and gun training. The question of whether or not you can get double Dex to damage keeps coming up...

If the Martial Artist archetype doesn't have a Ki pool, why is Abundant Step not replaced by another ability as it requires a ki expenditure? It seems that this would be something that such a monk wouldn't have if his training eschewed the monastic training required for ki. Am I missing something?

I wish I could see the sales numbers for this book. Already out almost over two years ago and still no official errata. This book must have bombed like crazy.

The PDF for this product has been updated with errata from the second printing.

The erratum for Crane Wing not only fixes something that isn't broken but actually renders Crane Riposte null and void.

Oops.

The erratum for Crane Wing not only fixes something that isn't broken but actually renders Crane Riposte null and void.

Oops.

I believe it would still play out as follows, you use the crane wing, if the attack that you called you were using crane wing on misses you, then you get an AoO.

Just a guess though, if one of the devs would feel free to chime in an clarify I would not object.

I don't like it...i like the ability to chose my attack to block in moment not before round. I hope we can ditch it for free now that it sucks

There is something very wierd going on with the Crane Style feat chain.

I have a pre-errata Ultimate Combat, with the pre-errata version of Crane Wing and Crane Riposte.

I have the errata for Ultimate Combat, which gives the errata for Crane Wing. Okay, so that means that I change the Crane Wing feat.

I have seen the FAQ/Update for Crane Riposte. Okay, so that means that I change the Crane Riposte feat.

I have just now seen the PRD's version of the Crane Style feat chain. The Crane Wing feat description there is the pre-errata one. The Crane Riposte version there bears no resemblance to the pre-errata version, nor to the FAQ/Update version. Instead, it looks like the errata for Crane Wing has been applied to Crane Riposte instead.

What is going on?!?

Seriously, did I miss yet another errata? Can anyone point me at some official/semi-official ruling on what this chain of feats actually does now?

The PDF for this product has been updated with errata from the second printing.

So does that mean it's the second print that I snow shipping?

So does that mean it's the second printing that I'm now shipping?

Thank GOD I'm not the only one who wishes this book gets a 2nd printing THIS YEAR! I really want to play a Titan Mauler but due to the wording of the archetype it isn't possible yet!

In Ultimate Combat, there is a HUGE mistake in the Kikko Armor (page 129) it say:
ARMOR COST ARMOR BONUS MAXIMUM DEX BONUS ARMOR CHECK PEN. ARCANE SPELL FAILURE

Kikko armor 30 gp +5 +4 -3 20%

BUT with the piecemeal armor variant rule (page 198-205), we get

Kikko ARM 5 gp +0 +5 -1 20%
Kikko LEG 10 gp +1 +3 -1 10%
Kikko TORSO 15 gp +2 +4 -3 20%

And the rule stated that when you have the 3 pieces (arm,leg & torso), we get a +1 in AC Bonus so we have
Kikko armor 30 gp +4 +3 -3 20%

Which one is the correct one? Because i did the maths with other armours and they all match,so far only Kikko has this mistake.

Is this a errata material?

Just noticed something last night. My copy of UC is missing pages, in the spell section. (I treat my books well, so nothing has fallen out.) Is anybody else's copy missing pages?

I know it's 3 years since the book was released, I just never noticed before. :(

Just noticed something last night. My copy of UC is missing pages, in the spell section. (I treat my books well, so nothing has fallen out.) Is anybody else's copy missing pages?

I know it's 3 years since the book was released, I just never noticed before. :(

Hello ericthecleric,

I've just sent you an email regarding this issue. Let me know if there are any further questions or concerns that I can help out with in the meantime.

Thanks!
Katina

The PDF version of this product is now updated to match the third printing.

A third printing already? Holy crap.

The PDF version of this product is now updated to match the third printing.

Cool, I guess.

I know you have a first printing PDF. And I have money. I don't care if it is full price, I'd be willing to pay full price for a PDF without the errata. Can I already do this? If not, is it being considered?

Are the non-mint copies third printings?

Wow, some serious changes in this one. Glad to see double-barreled pistols finally got nerfed out of ridiculousness. However, Feral Combat Training got nerfed (effects that augment unarmed strikes no longer apply to the weapon chosen with FCT) and Sap Adept also got nerfed (no longer applies a bonus to damage equal to double your sneak attack dice rolled).

Chris Lambertz wrote:

The PDF version of this product is now updated to match the third printing.

Cool, I guess.

Is there a way I could purchase a PDF that matches the first printing? A game I am playing in uses the first printing rules, but the PRD only has the second printing (and will probably switch to third printing), and it's annoying not being able to access the rules.

I know you have a first printing PDF. And I have money. I don't care if it is full price, I'd be willing to pay full price for a PDF without the errata. Can I already do this? If not, is it being considered?

You could go at it the other way: get the third printing and the errata document for 'first to third printing' and mark the differences in reverse.

At work, so I can't download the doc. Can anyone go over the changes for the Myrmidarch?

137ben wrote:

Chris Lambertz wrote:

The PDF version of this product is now updated to match the third printing.

Cool, I guess.

Is there a way I could purchase a PDF that matches the first printing? A game I am playing in uses the first printing rules, but the PRD only has the second printing (and will probably switch to third printing), and it's annoying not being able to access the rules.

I know you have a first printing PDF. And I have money. I don't care if it is full price, I'd be willing to pay full price for a PDF without the errata. Can I already do this? If not, is it being considered?

You could go at it the other way: get the third printing and the errata document for 'first to third printing' and mark the differences in reverse.

No, I can't. When the errata says "change the second paragraph of page X to the following" <new paragraph>, there's no way to determine what the text said in the first printing. The errata document indicates that something was changed, but it doesn't give enough information to deduce what the old text was.

At work, so I can't download the doc. Can anyone go over the changes for the Myrmidarch?

• Page 56—In the Myrmidarch archetype, in the Ranged Spellstrike ability, replace the second paragraph with the following:

At 11th level, a myrmidarch can spend a full-round action to cast a spell that includes multiple ranged touch attacks and deliver more than one using ranged attacks. The spell must have a casting time of 1 full-round action or less. This functions similarly to the base ability of ranged spellstrike, but the myrmidarch can deliver a number of missiles, rays, or effect up to the number of attacks he could make with a full attack. Attacks beyond the first take penalties as if the myrmidarch were making a full attack. Any effects not used in the round the spell is cast are lost, as are any additional ranged touch attacks the spell would allow beyond the myrmidarch’s maximum number of attacks. This ability replaces spell recall and improved spell recall.

Chris Lambertz wrote:

The PDF version of this product is now updated to match the third printing.

Cool, I guess.

Is there a way I could purchase a PDF that matches the first printing? A game I am playing in uses the first printing rules, but the PRD only has the second printing (and will probably switch to third printing), and it's annoying not being able to access the rules.

I know you have a first printing PDF. And I have money. I don't care if it is full price, I'd be willing to pay full price for a PDF without the errata. Can I already do this? If not, is it being considered?

Currently this isn't something we offer. It's been brought up as a request only recently, and I don't have an answer for it yet.

j b 200 wrote:

At work, so I can't download the doc. Can anyone go over the changes for the Myrmidarch?

Ultimate Combat Errata - Second Printing to Third Printing (v2.0) wrote:

• Page 56—In the Myrmidarch archetype, in the Ranged Spellstrike ability, replace the second paragraph with the following:

At 11th level, a myrmidarch can spend a full-round action to cast a spell that includes multiple ranged touch attacks and deliver more than one using ranged attacks. The spell must have a casting time of 1 full-round action or less. This functions similarly to the base ability of ranged spellstrike, but the myrmidarch can deliver a number of missiles, rays, or effect up to the number of attacks he could make with a full attack. Attacks beyond the first take penalties as if the myrmidarch were making a full attack. Any effects not used in the round the spell is cast are lost, as are any additional ranged touch attacks the spell would allow beyond the myrmidarch’s maximum number of attacks. This ability replaces spell recall and improved spell recall.

Thanks! It appears they already updated the PRD, so.... can't check to see how it changed.

Luthorne wrote:

j b 200 wrote:

At work, so I can't download the doc. Can anyone go over the changes for the Myrmidarch?

Ultimate Combat Errata - Second Printing to Third Printing (v2.0) wrote:

• Page 56—In the Myrmidarch archetype, in the Ranged Spellstrike ability, replace the second paragraph with the following:

At 11th level, a myrmidarch can spend a full-round action to cast a spell that includes multiple ranged touch attacks and deliver more than one using ranged attacks. The spell must have a casting time of 1 full-round action or less. This functions similarly to the base ability of ranged spellstrike, but the myrmidarch can deliver a number of missiles, rays, or effect up to the number of attacks he could make with a full attack. Attacks beyond the first take penalties as if the myrmidarch were making a full attack. Any effects not used in the round the spell is cast are lost, as are any additional ranged touch attacks the spell would allow beyond the myrmidarch’s maximum number of attacks. This ability replaces spell recall and improved spell recall.

Thanks! It appears they already updated the PRD, so.... can't check to see how it changed.

That ability used to be nonfunctional, allowing you to shoot off rays from a spell with your full attack but granting no way to actually save those rays for the full attack or cast them together.

The 3rd printing lists Water Walk, Communal as a 2nd-level cleric and ranger spell, yet Water Walk is a 3rd-level cleric and ranger spell. I think this is a mistake and Communal Water Walk should stay as a 4th-level spell (unless you plan to reduce Water Walk to a 1st-level spell).

Scott, it's a weird case, but that's is what they intended:

Normally communal spells are 1 level higher because they split the duration but allow splitting a single target spell (the result is almost always an extremely powerful spell for its level, but that's a digression). Water walk already targeted multiple creatures and does not require dividing duration. So Communal water walk is just a worse version of water walk, and as a non-single-target spell, it shouldn't have received a communal version. Since removing the spell entirely would throw off lots of other things, our solution was to make it lower level instead, to reflect the fact that it is less powerful.

From: The Paizo Blog

j b 200 wrote:

Luthorne wrote:

j b 200 wrote:

At work, so I can't download the doc. Can anyone go over the changes for the Myrmidarch?

Ultimate Combat Errata - Second Printing to Third Printing (v2.0) wrote:

• Page 56—In the Myrmidarch archetype, in the Ranged Spellstrike ability, replace the second paragraph with the following:

At 11th level, a myrmidarch can spend a full-round action to cast a spell that includes multiple ranged touch attacks and deliver more than one using ranged attacks. The spell must have a casting time of 1 full-round action or less. This functions similarly to the base ability of ranged spellstrike, but the myrmidarch can deliver a number of missiles, rays, or effect up to the number of attacks he could make with a full attack. Attacks beyond the first take penalties as if the myrmidarch were making a full attack. Any effects not used in the round the spell is cast are lost, as are any additional ranged touch attacks the spell would allow beyond the myrmidarch’s maximum number of attacks. This ability replaces spell recall and improved spell recall.

Thanks! It appears they already updated the PRD, so.... can't check to see how it changed.

That ability used to be nonfunctional, allowing you to shoot off rays from a spell with your full attack but granting no way to actually save those rays for the full attack or cast them together.

Many thanks to the Design Team for fixing this! The Myrmidarch has been a favorite archetype of mine for some time, but I was always sad that it had this broken ability. I was surprised that it didn't get fixed in the second edition.

Scott, it's a weird case, but that's is what they intended:<snip>

Thanks Joe! I wish they had added that explanation in the errata. This is a case where 'why' is necessary to understand 'what'.

137ben wrote:

Is there a way I could purchase a PDF that matches the first printing? A game I am playing in uses the first printing rules, but the PRD only has the second printing (and will probably switch to third printing), and it's annoying not being able to access the rules.

I know you have a first printing PDF. And I have money. I don't care if it is full price, I'd be willing to pay full price for a PDF without the errata. Can I already do this? If not, is it being considered?

Currently this isn't something we offer. It's been brought up as a request only recently, and I don't have an answer for it yet.

The 'easiest' way to handle it might be to have something like the 'lite single file' versions of the old PDFs available alongside the various options for the current version (assuming the person purchased some version of the PDF).

Alternatively, you could have the PRD include links to prior versions (and related FAQs?) for things which have been changed.

Finally, you could include both the old and new text in future errata. This would make each errata longer, but allow them to be used in 'both directions'.

Are the non-mint copies third printings?

Anyone able to answer this? I'd like to grab a non-mint updated version, if I can - otherwise I'll get a regular copy.

Reviewing a third party product and have a quick question. Can you apply shield feats to a weapon with the blocking quality? Like could you gain the benefits of shield specialization and improved shield bash while wielding tonfa?

So I'm guessing with the 3rd Printing the Titan Mauler archetype finally works now?

So I'm guessing with the 3rd Printing the Titan Mauler archetype finally works now?

Anyone?

hey trying to find some information on the spell Jolting Portent in the spell it says you use either your wisdom (for clerics) or charisma (for oracles) and im trying to find out if you use the full wisdom score or just the modifier normally id go with just the mod (and did when it came up in my game but id like clarification)