Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Ultimate Magic (OGL)

I can't believe this hasn't been asked yet, but will there be an expanded list for Summon Monster/Summon Nature's Ally spells? Preferably with things from Bestiary 2?

I can't believe this hasn't been asked yet, but will there be an expanded list for Summon Monster/Summon Nature's Ally spells? Preferably with things from Bestiary 2?

It's been asked inumerable times, on many different threads. The answer is no.

draco_nite wrote:

I can't believe this hasn't been asked yet, but will there be an expanded list for Summon Monster/Summon Nature's Ally spells? Preferably with things from Bestiary 2?

It's been asked inumerable times, on many different threads. The answer is no.

And the reason behind it is expanded lists would add more options to the Summon spells, thus increasing their usefulness, if not their outright power, thus adding more fuel to the "Pathfinder is Spellcasters Edition" bonfire...

It would be nice to see a few more options for spells that need it like SM VIII, though.

Has this question been asked yet?

How many Sorcerer bloodlines/Oracle mysteries will there be in this book?

Will there be any rules for "natural" magical places like healing fountains, wild magic zones, living buildings, magic items created by "natural" magical forces,etc.?

Will the Pestiliance Sorcerer bloodline from the Council of thieves (mother of flies) AP make into this book?

How will the book be broken up or orginized? For example the archtypes take up 32 pages so how may will be devoted to the other subjects(spells, feats, class features, etc.)

Will there be any feats that will be for sorcerers only like ones that enhance bloodline abilities, add spells to there spell list(like adding holy smite to the celestial bloodline) or add class skills/skill points?

I really hope we get a healing focused witch patron. My witch totally needs some way to heal ability damage/drain before level 14. Oh, and I wouldn't mind getting Breath of Life and/or Raise Daed either.

Please? Pretty please?

I was wishing as hard as one can wish for a Witch Doctor archetype (witch), but the blog preview doesn't mention one. Shame. It seemed so obvious to me.

What specific abilities would a "witch doctor" of the witch class need?

What specific abilities would a "witch doctor" of the witch class need?

I don't necessarily think we need a "witch doctor" archetype for one specific class, since I could see it fitting equally well with the adept, cleric, or witch class. However, some way to replace the familiar with a voodoo doll/arcane bond might be interesting, and giving more (and lower-level) "waxen image"-type hexes (or maybe some sort of replacement for material components/foci?) could certainly help people play to a certain stereotype.

...Although that's probably more "voodoo priest" than "witch doctor," so this might be off-topic.

What specific abilities would a "witch doctor" of the witch class need?

A doctorate of some kind, of course. :)

Seriously, the class does a really good job of meeting most of the stuff that screams witch doctor. Maybe increase the healing hexes in some way, or add some diplomacy bonuses on tribesmen?

I was wishing as hard as one can wish for a Witch Doctor archetype (witch), but the blog preview doesn't mention one. Shame. It seemed so obvious to me.

You ought to pick up City of Seven Spears (Pathfinder AP #39). There's a whole chapter on "The Path of Juju," and though it's largely focused on the oracle class, there's some stuff in there for witches too. By which I mean, there's some very witch-doctor-y magic items that anyone can make/use.

But if you want a quintessential witchdoctor, an oracle with the Juju mystery is your man.

I would love for an official answer to by questios I have posted here and in the ultimate magic archtype preview twice. I dodn't care if they say "it's too early" or You will find out when it's previewed. I asked these questions(well most of them) on tuesday and would love to get a answer.

I would love for an official answer to by questios I have posted here and in the ultimate magic archtype preview twice. I dodn't care if they say "it's too early" or You will find out when it's previewed. I asked these questions(well most of them) on tuesday and would love to get a answer.

You know, the Paizo staff posts on these boards as a courtesy to their fans. They aren't obligated to answer every question posed to them - or any question at all.

I'm especially interested in what I have heard that there might be a re-animator archetype for the alchemist. But I'm a Lovecraft fan.

I'm curious about the magus archetypes. Magus is already an amazing class, what seriously more could be done to it other than "Make it more fighty" or "Make it more magicky"?

Yeah I am a little curious about the Magus archtypes myself, but I can wait since I haven't seen the final version of the class in all it's glory.

I'm curious about the magus archetypes. Magus is already an amazing class, what seriously more could be done to it other than "Make it more fighty" or "Make it more magicky"?

I'm guessing archetypes that create slight shifts in flavor rather than changes to functionality. I'd be willing to bet that there will be an archetype for an "unarmed Magus".

I would also not be surprised to see an archetype focusing on a specific school of magic. It's a much longer shot, but I think it would be cool to have a Magus archetype that uses wands as it's primary "weapons".

Four Magus archetypes are listed in the Player's Guide for Carrion Crown: Bladebound, Hexcrafter, Spellblade, and Staff Magus.

Four Magus archetypes are listed in the Player's Guide for Carrion Crown: Bladebound, Hexcrafter, Spellblade, and Staff Magus.

I noticed that myself.

I have this on pre-order. Next month when Carrion Crown #3 comes out I will have this as well as Broken Moon together. A part of me can't wait.

Four Magus archetypes are listed in the Player's Guide for Carrion Crown: Bladebound, Hexcrafter, Spellblade, and Staff Magus.

Are these NEW archetypes beyond what's in Ultimate Magic or are these lifted from Ultimate Magic? I'm curious.

Generic Villain wrote:

Four Magus archetypes are listed in the Player's Guide for Carrion Crown: Bladebound, Hexcrafter, Spellblade, and Staff Magus.

Are these NEW archetypes beyond what's in Ultimate Magic or are these lifted from Ultimate Magic? I'm curious.

They're just actually named in the Player's Guide. They're not spelled out. They should be a part of what's offered in Ultimate Magic.

They put up the Vivisectionist Alchemist Archetype on the paizo blog not to long ago which replaces bombs with sneak attack and i'm just wondering if the master chymist prestige class would advance the sneak attack damage as it does the bomb damage of the normal alchemist?

Let's hope the new "specific bard performances" are good and that the bard may swap out crappy stuf like Inspire greatness and inspire heroics.

RPG Subscribers can expect this book to ship when? Before the PDF becomes generally available, I would think, so like the first week or two of May?

Apologies if this has already been touched on earlier in this thread...

RPG Subscribers can expect this book to ship when? Before the PDF becomes generally available, I would think, so like the first week or two of May?

Apologies if this has already been touched on earlier in this thread...

We are on schedule to ship in mid-May - see the Product Schedule for the latest updates!

They put up the Vivisectionist Alchemist Archetype on the paizo blog not to long ago which replaces bombs with sneak attack and i'm just wondering if the master chymist prestige class would advance the sneak attack damage as it does the bomb damage of the normal alchemist?

Yeah, I'm wondering that as well. As written it doesn't but I could see an arguement for it or allowing a feat to "adjust" the progression. A big problem is that while the Chymist advances damage it doesn't advance the bombs per day so maybe advance the sneak attack damage at a slower rate?

They put up the Vivisectionist Alchemist Archetype on the paizo blog not to long ago which replaces bombs with sneak attack and i'm just wondering if the master chymist prestige class would advance the sneak attack damage as it does the bomb damage of the normal alchemist?

If you're going for RAW, then no, the master chymist wouldn't increase a vivisectionist's sneak attack. I think any reasonable GM would allow it to, however. Especially since, in the MC's description, it states how the class favors the "violent nature" of bombs (or somesuch). Sneak attack is pretty freakin' violent as well.

We are on schedule to ship in mid-May - see the Product Schedule for the latest updates!

I know it's set to ship mid-May, but I (and I suspect many other subscribers) really want to know if we'll have a shiny new PDF during the first week of May.

Don't forget what it was like being one of us! Waiting with baited breath for that "your order has shipped" email! Pure torture...

Liz Courts wrote:

We are on schedule to ship in mid-May - see the Product Schedule for the latest updates!

I know it's set to ship mid-May, but I (and I suspect many other subscribers) really want to know if we'll have a shiny new PDF during the first week of May.

If you are a subscriber you can download your PDF as soon as your item ships. So if it ships in mid-May we'll have to wait until then.

I'm hoping there's some feat/template/archetype ability that allows the Summoner's eidolon to kick around while he sleeps (or is unconscious in general). Nothing like a creature on watch with +12 to Perception at 1st level while your Summoner naps.

Was it announced anywhere or confirmed/denied if there would be any prestige classes in this book? Ive been told that Paizo plans to shift a bit away from Prestiges and more towards Archetypes, but alas I was curious.

Was it announced anywhere or confirmed/denied if there would be any prestige classes in this book? Ive been told that Paizo plans to shift a bit away from Prestiges and more towards Archetypes, but alas I was curious.

I can't quote anywhere specific, but I'm fairly certain I saw somewhere that they said there would be prestige classes. Also, I cannot see Paizo ever stop publishing prestige classes, just significantly reducing the number of them and making them more interesting, such as the ones in the APG like the Rage Prophet or the Master Spy.

I agree with you AlanM. I wouldnt mind only a few Prestiges, because they are giving us A LOT of variety with variants, however its always nice to see multiclass options with prestiges. I hope they include a few in the book.

Was it announced anywhere or confirmed/denied if there would be any prestige classes in this book? Ive been told that Paizo plans to shift a bit away from Prestiges and more towards Archetypes, but alas I was curious.

Archetypes are cool, but are really only good if you know from the start that the Archetype fits your character's style... PrC's fill an important niche, I think, enabling a character to specialize AFTER play begins... unless there are rules for re-training into an Archetype that I missed?

I would think that Pathfinder is not going to ditch PrC's if ONLY for that reason.

Can't wait for the new Bloodlines! That is all.

When do you think the pdf will be available for subscribers?

When do you think the pdf will be available for subscribers?

I think we will start seeing mail notices being sent out this week... certainly next Tuesday at the latest. If I am right, then we might be able to download our PDFs by the end of next week or the following Tuesday.

That is my prediction anyhow.

Last date I saw, about a week ago, I think) for when shipping was due to start was May 9.

When do you think the pdf will be available for subscribers?

I for one plan on recycling my downloads page minutely until I see it :)

So close I can almost smell it. Pop in a "we processing you" email to me today and ship by Friday - and I'll throw in a good word with the Sheriff of Ravengro for you, whatyousay?

Last date I saw, about a week ago, I think) for when shipping was due to start was May 9.

Where did you see this, out of curiosity? I've never been able to find anything like this (and if it exists, I'd love to know where to look).

Paizo-person mentioned it on the chat.

May 9th makes sense, as that'll leave 2 more previews I think before it begins arriving at peoples' homes and the PDF will be available at that time as well for everyone.

One of my players is excited to make a new Magus character

We are starting Carrion Crown this week!!

Any chances that the PDF comes out this week for subscribers?

We are starting Carrion Crown this week!!

Any chances that the PDF comes out this week for subscribers?

Very unlikely; I haven't gotten the pre-ship email yet, which is usually several days before the actual ship.

Based on the latest preview, I can now have a familiar named "Bacon Sandwich".

Woot! just got my Shipping in the Next week or so message!

Woot! just got my Shipping in the Next week or so message!

Jumping into my inbox "Refresh Refresh Refresh"

Woot! just got my Shipping in the Next week or so message!

Could someone explain to me how this works? I just became a subscriber for the benefit of the free PDF and somewaht earlier shipping and I'm wondering how this all happens...

First I get an email that tells me it will be shipping in the next week or so (the email I got last week after order doesn't count I guess since it said exactly that : ).

After I get that I wait for the physical book to ship and get another email and THEN I can download the PDF?

How long it usually between getting the ships soon email and the actual shipping?

Do I have that all right?

Oscar

Dragnmoon wrote:

Woot! just got my Shipping in the Next week or so message!

Could someone explain to me how this works? I just became a subscriber for the benefit of the free PDF and somewaht earlier shipping and I'm wondering how this all happens...

First I get an email that tells me it will be shipping in the next week or so (the email I got last week after order doesn't count I guess since it said exactly that : ).

After I get that I wait for the physical book to ship and get another email and THEN I can download the PDF?

How long it usually between getting the ships soon email and the actual shipping?

Do I have that all right?

Sounds about right, yes.

The one that came right after signing up for the subscription doesn't count because it could be a month or two before the actual product ships (depending on which subscription you sign up for). So sometime next week they should start shipping them out and people will get their PDFs.

Do note that due to the large volume of subscribers, it will take a few days for them to ship all the orders. So if the first people get their PDFs on Monday, some people will still have to wait until Thursday (or later if there are problems). So be patient! It will come!