Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Ultimate Magic (OGL)

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Raise your character to the pinnacle of magical might with Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Ultimate Magic! Within this book, secrets arcane and divine lie ready to burst into life at the hands of all the spellcasting classes in the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game. In addition to the brand-new magus class—a master of both arcane magic and martial prowess—you'll also find a whole new system for spellcasting, rules for spell duels and other magical specialities, and pages upon pages of new spells, feats, and more. Because when it comes to magic, why settle for less than absolute power?

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Ultimate Magic is a must-have companion volume to the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Core Rulebook. This imaginitive tabletop game builds on more than 10 years of system development and an Open Playtest featuring more than 50,000 gamers to create a cutting-edge RPG experience that brings the all-time best-selling set of fantasy rules into the new millennium.

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Ultimate Magic includes:

  • The magus, a new base class combining deadly arcane magic with the skills and weapons of a trained warrior.
  • Words of power, an innovative and flexible new spellcasting system.
  • New options for dedicated casters, such as alchemist discoveries, alternative uses for channeled energy, druid companions, sorcerer bloodlines, eidolon abilities, witch hexes, and oracle mysteries.
  • Additional feats and magical abilities for martially oriented casters, including monk ki tricks, inquisitor archetypes, and ranger traps.
  • New magical conditions called spellblihgts, as well as systems for crafting constructs, binding outsiders, and spell-dueling.
  • More than 100 new spells, plus detailed guidelines for designing your own.
  • ... and much, much more!

ISBN-13: 978-1-60125-299-9

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More Options ! more magic, ... MORE !

5/5

flavorful options, powerful options
classes, archetypes, feats...

while 100% of the boook might not please you, you want this book.

having the choice to build flavorful PC with the right options is priceless (and for this book, you have...)


ultimate magic, rrrrright!!


this book owes its selling rate for the Magus.

lazy feats, some options are good, some others just dotn´
Archetypes: the best Bladebound Magus
worst of all: Trapper Ranger

Spellblights: interesting but too complex for a fumble system
Spellword Casting: at the beginning it looks very nice, then i read it and... is the same spell restriction and opportunities at a expensive cost of time

feats: ok those are feats

Magic spellbooks: why you dont just paraphrase some words concerning about how to protect the spellbooks with some spells and thats all. maybe a feat or two for scaling this option, besides the spellbooks looks greats.

spells: again, the magus options are great.

my advice for you: buy the book, cut the pages concerned for magus, and dump the rest or Download the pdf at any place you can, print the magus and drop the rest


2/5

While I do not think that either this or Ultimate Combat deserve to be called "Ultimate" anything books (maybe Ultimate Monk), I do think that Ultimate Magic does better cover it's proported theme. In my opinion, Inner Sea Magic did a better job overall, but is sadly setting specific.

On th Divine Side (minus Paladin) this book is extremely, extremely limited. There are a few gems, but most are either placed really far out of reach, or just not worth what you give up for them, and might as well not have been there at all rather than tease.

On the Arcane side, this book is full of material, but severely lacking as well. There is an assortment of random material that just seems like it was left over from other books and tossed in here. The only magical items in this book (exceptionally noticable on the Divine Magic side) are Wizard's Spellbooks, (which of the top of my head, only 3 Classes in the entire game will actually have any use for beyond the sell price).

There are a lot of (would be) nice Feats, except they are specific to a Class, or build, or whose names imply it would be great for somone else besides who it is actually intended. Over all, there are a lot of options, but actually very slim pickings. Overall, it leaves a lot of classes and build out in the cold.

Whereas Ultimate Combat is at best Ultimate Monk, Ultimate Magic is closest to being more appropriate as Ultimate Wizard/Inquisitor, (arguably Classes that did not need more).


mediocre at best

3/5

This book is no Complete Divine or Complete Arcance. I mostl play a cleric and this book does little for me personally.

Yeah, its got some interesting tweaks, but for the price, i dobn't think thy are worth it.

So far I've used 1 feat and the spells from this book. Nothing else. Should've bought the APG.


A good product to add to your collection!

5/5

After reading through Ultimate Magic, some new mechanics offered in this book can add flavor and fun to an adventure.

The Magus appears to be a class that is fun to play as. You are able to swipe at your enemies with your sword in one hand and with magic in the other.

Spellblights are interesting. These curses can hinder the spellcasters in different ways.

One chapter that I especially liked was the words of power. The concept was a little hard to wrap around but when you understand it fun ensues. I tried out a couple of words of power in an adventure and it was pretty fun. There was a point where I fought a spellcaster who also had words of power and it felt like the two were having a very destructive debate ha!

Overall I enjoyed this product and I recommend this to everybody!


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Stasiscell wrote:
So lets move onto a different topic whats everyone most excited about (those who havent gotten the pdf yet)

I think the archetypes and feats. Qinggong monk!

Dark Archive

Edgar Lamoureux wrote:
As soon as I get my PDF on the 18th, I'm going to be all over the Alchemist Archetypes. Also, although I most likely won't play a regular Magus, I very well may play a Spellblade or Staff Magus.

you won't be disappointed. Some of the archetypes are really cool as are the new discoveries. I was honestly a bit meh on the alchemist, I like it a lot more now. :)


ME WANTS HEX CRAFTER

and I'm very curious about the magis subsystems. Very, very curious.


I'd like one 1st level spell that makes me as happy as Flash/Bang did (Freeport Companion - Pathfinder Edition)...

Shadow Lodge

Scott McFarland wrote:
I'd like one 1st level spell that makes me as happy as Flash/Bang did (Freeport Companion - Pathfinder Edition)...

Cooperatve magic rulez:)


Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Edgar Lamoureux wrote:
As soon as I get my PDF on the 18th, I'm going to be all over the Alchemist Archetypes. Also, although I most likely won't play a regular Magus, I very well may play a Spellblade or Staff Magus.

I liked the Alchemist archetypes quite a bit myself, but the Oracle and Witch ones really got my attention. I'm optimistic about the Magus and it's archetypes, Bladebound and Hexcrafter both jumped out at me.


Your words! Yes! More more!

...and if somebody doesn't mind telling me: what is the qinggong monk's shtick? I have been having a hard time picturing what he's all about.


Pathfinder Card Game Subscriber
Edgar Lamoureux wrote:
As soon as I get my PDF on the 18th, I'm going to be all over the Alchemist Archetypes.

This is something I'm especially looking forward to, especially archetypes that might replace Mutagen with something I'd be more interested in actually using.

But I'm excited about nearly everything about this book. New Spells (especially for the Cleric/Oracle), the new Monk archetype, new discoveries, Oracle curses, mysteries, magic items (hoping for better item creation rules?), feats, and more.

I can't wait! But I guess I'll be waiting a while anyway since I ordered from Amazon. =P

Dark Archive

Oh my... the new cook people hex is funny, disgusting and disturbing all at the same time. The funny part is one of the things you can do with it, is make the "dough" into a little gingerbread like homunculus.

The Exchange

Dark_Mistress wrote:
Edgar Lamoureux wrote:
As soon as I get my PDF on the 18th, I'm going to be all over the Alchemist Archetypes. Also, although I most likely won't play a regular Magus, I very well may play a Spellblade or Staff Magus.
you won't be disappointed. Some of the archetypes are really cool as are the new discoveries. I was honestly a bit meh on the alchemist, I like it a lot more now. :)

Might I get a small taste of the discoveries? I was specifically wondering about the simulacrum discoveries mentioned in the Magic Archetypes blog, as well as parasitic twin.


I am really exited about this book, especially new Sorcerer bloodlines, Oracle Mysteries/revelations, spells, feats, and archtypes(sorcerer, oracle, bard, druid, witch, and monk inparticularly)

Dark Archive

Edgar Lamoureux wrote:
Dark_Mistress wrote:
Edgar Lamoureux wrote:
As soon as I get my PDF on the 18th, I'm going to be all over the Alchemist Archetypes. Also, although I most likely won't play a regular Magus, I very well may play a Spellblade or Staff Magus.
you won't be disappointed. Some of the archetypes are really cool as are the new discoveries. I was honestly a bit meh on the alchemist, I like it a lot more now. :)
Might I get a small taste of the discoveries? I was specifically wondering about the simulacrum discoveries mentioned in the Magic Archetypes blog, as well as parasitic twin.

The simulacrum works similar to the spell of the same name. The parasitic twin is something to add onto the vestigial limbs discovery. Sometimes spells that would effect the mind of the alchemist effect the twin instead, leaving the alchemist to stay in control but suffers a bit for it.

Alchemist zombie and sunlight bomb I think are my two favorite of the new ones.

The Exchange

Dark_Mistress wrote:
Edgar Lamoureux wrote:
Dark_Mistress wrote:
Edgar Lamoureux wrote:
As soon as I get my PDF on the 18th, I'm going to be all over the Alchemist Archetypes. Also, although I most likely won't play a regular Magus, I very well may play a Spellblade or Staff Magus.
you won't be disappointed. Some of the archetypes are really cool as are the new discoveries. I was honestly a bit meh on the alchemist, I like it a lot more now. :)
Might I get a small taste of the discoveries? I was specifically wondering about the simulacrum discoveries mentioned in the Magic Archetypes blog, as well as parasitic twin.

The simulacrum works similar to the spell of the same name. The parasitic twin is something to add onto the vestigial limbs discovery. Sometimes spells that would effect the mind of the alchemist effect the twin instead, leaving the alchemist to stay in control but suffers a bit for it.

Alchemist zombie and sunlight bomb I think are my two favorite of the new ones.

You've proven it to me. These next 9 days are going to be some of the longest I've had in a long time.

Shadow Lodge

Edgar Lamoureux wrote:
Dark_Mistress wrote:
Edgar Lamoureux wrote:
Dark_Mistress wrote:
Edgar Lamoureux wrote:
As soon as I get my PDF on the 18th, I'm going to be all over the Alchemist Archetypes. Also, although I most likely won't play a regular Magus, I very well may play a Spellblade or Staff Magus.
you won't be disappointed. Some of the archetypes are really cool as are the new discoveries. I was honestly a bit meh on the alchemist, I like it a lot more now. :)
Might I get a small taste of the discoveries? I was specifically wondering about the simulacrum discoveries mentioned in the Magic Archetypes blog, as well as parasitic twin.

The simulacrum works similar to the spell of the same name. The parasitic twin is something to add onto the vestigial limbs discovery. Sometimes spells that would effect the mind of the alchemist effect the twin instead, leaving the alchemist to stay in control but suffers a bit for it.

Alchemist zombie and sunlight bomb I think are my two favorite of the new ones.

You've proven it to me. These next 9 days are going to be some of the longest I've had in a long time.

What about Quicken Channel feat?


Decorus wrote:
What about Quicken Channel feat?

Are you serious?

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LoreKeeper wrote:
Decorus wrote:
What about Quicken Channel feat?
Are you serious?

Agreed. IMHO, this one seems to explain itself.

Grand Lodge

Ricochet Splash Weapon!


Shall I start spouting random non-sense too? See how you feel? ;p

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Crispy3ed wrote:
Ricochet Splash Weapon!

Please explain, good sir. Is it usable only with standard splash weapons, like alchemist's fire and such?

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

F5, F5, F5...


its allmost criminal how the pdf isnt given upon order.
damn these legal guidelines! the law has once again oppressed us rise up citizens! REVOLT STORM THE CAPITAL!!!!!!!!!

Scarab Sages

Too excited. Once this and Ultimate Combat are out, I thihk Pathfinder will come into it's own even more than before - which is a scary, and awesome, thought.

The Exchange

@Dark_Mistress Any more juicy tidbits? Even a hint would be greatly appreciated. I need my fix. :p

Grand Lodge

When you miss with a splash weapon and the new hex has a target in it you may reroll, at a penalty, to hit your new target. If you hit you do full damage to the new target and splash based on the new hex.

Dark Archive

Edgar Lamoureux wrote:
@Dark_Mistress Any more juicy tidbits? Even a hint would be greatly appreciated. I need my fix. :p

There is something like 25 new discoveries and 8 new archetypes. I am sure no one wants to hear about the new bard masterpieces abilities.

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Crispy3ed wrote:

When you miss with a splash weapon and the new hex has a target in it you may reroll, at a penalty, to hit your new target. If you hit you do full damage to the new target and splash based on the new hex.

Interesting. A little too situational for my taste, but could be useful nonetheless.

The Exchange

Dark_Mistress wrote:
Edgar Lamoureux wrote:
@Dark_Mistress Any more juicy tidbits? Even a hint would be greatly appreciated. I need my fix. :p
There is something like 25 new discoveries and 8 new archetypes. I am sure no one wants to hear about the new bard masterpieces abilities.

I want to hear about them![/sarcasm]

(Not much of a bard player myself)


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
Dark_Mistress wrote:
Edgar Lamoureux wrote:
@Dark_Mistress Any more juicy tidbits? Even a hint would be greatly appreciated. I need my fix. :p
There is something like 25 new discoveries and 8 new archetypes. I am sure no one wants to hear about the new bard masterpieces abilities.

I kneel before you and wash your feet with unholy water. Please, Dark Mistress, tell me about the new bard materpiece abilities.

Dark Archive

Or the split hex, lets you hit two targets in the same use of a hex. So hit two targets with misfortune for example.


What are the new sorcerer bloodlines?

What are the new Oracle mysteries?

Anything you can tell us about the new monk archtype please

Is the bard arcgtype "song healer" any good?

Are there any feats that are sorcerer, oracle, and/or witch only?

How does the new sorcerer archtypes work?

Are the new discoveries all that powerful or are they balanced?

Dark Archive

DougErvin wrote:
Dark_Mistress wrote:
Edgar Lamoureux wrote:
@Dark_Mistress Any more juicy tidbits? Even a hint would be greatly appreciated. I need my fix. :p
There is something like 25 new discoveries and 8 new archetypes. I am sure no one wants to hear about the new bard masterpieces abilities.

I kneel before you and wash your feet with unholy water. Please, Dark Mistress, tell me about the new bard materpiece abilities.

You give up something to learn them. Either a feat or a spell of a certain level. A example.

The Quickening Pulse - you give up a feat or a 3rd level spell known. Once learned you can preform this and it makes enemies in 30 ft quicken their beating heart. Each round you play it, they must make a save or take 1d6 dmg as they sweat blood.


Dark_Mistress, does anybody ever tell you how incredibly sexy you are when you have us slave mortals begging before your feet for even the tiniest morsel of your dark forbidden knowledge?

Paizo Employee Managing Developer

That's not a bad gig, if you can get it.

Dark Archive

Dragon78 wrote:

1) What are the new sorcerer bloodlines?

2) What are the new Oracle mysteries?

3) Anything you can tell us about the new monk archtype please

4) Is the bard arcgtype "song healer" any good?

5) Are there any feats that are sorcerer, oracle, and/or witch only?

6) How does the new sorcerer archtypes work?

7) Are the new discoveries all that powerful or are they balanced?

Well I don't want to tell everything about the book but I will give you some tidbits.

1) There is 7 new bloodlines
2) There is 5 new mysteries.
3) The only monk archetype gives them access to Ki powers which functions somewhat like supernatural abilities and their is a lot of them.
4) Songhealer can increase how effective other peoples spells, scrolls, wands etc are for healing if he is higher level. He also gets two abilities one lets him do a performance that works like the spell heal and another that raises the dead. Is it good? depends on your point of view I guess.
5) Yes some of the feats are class specific. Just skimming the feat list I seen 1 Sorc, 3 Oracle, 5 Witch class only feats, though they are tied to bloodline, mystery or hexes so take it with a grain of salt when I say class only.
6) The two archetypes for Sorc combine bloodlines, giving some benefits from each blood line.
7) At first glance they seem on par, but keep in mind I have not read the book. Just been skimming it.

Dark Archive

LoreKeeper wrote:

Dark_Mistress, does anybody ever tell you how incredibly sexy you are when you have us slave mortals begging before your feet for even the tiniest morsel of your dark forbidden knowledge?

All the time or they don't get to savor the taste of Sweet Sting.


Can't wait to get my hardcopy of this book. I wonder when it ships?


Have you found a favorite feat that you just know will become a staple for your characters?

The Exchange

Dark_Mistress wrote:
LoreKeeper wrote:

Dark_Mistress, does anybody ever tell you how incredibly sexy you are when you have us slave mortals begging before your feet for even the tiniest morsel of your dark forbidden knowledge?

All the time or they don't get to savor the taste of Sweet Sting.

You are incredibly benevolent, and I thank you for sending forth your unholy words of awesomeness.

Edit: Change the word "benevolent" to "malevolent" whenever you feel the need. I'm not yet sure how you tend to operate.


Oh sexy, Dark Mistress, I beseech thee one question of mine: are there prestige classes? If so, what are they?

Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

There's a summoner archtype that let's you build the guyver.

I really shouldn't have to say anything else.

Shadow Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Sebastian wrote:

There's a summoner archtype that let's you build the guyver.

I really shouldn't have to say anything else.

O_O OH... MY... GODS... YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Exchange

I have only two more questions. Does the Reanimator Archetype replace bombs, and if so, with what?

Edit: The only reason I ask is because of some fluff that would work better for a Kingmaker character of mine. However, bombs are integral to my character's backstory, so if they are replaced, I will not even ask if I may update my character.


I cannot wait to see what the new witch patrons are, as well as new familiar options. Anyone care to reveal a few, just to keep me satisfied until I can get the book?

Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

I'm so glad someone else had the same reaction as me to the guyver!

Edgar Lamoureux wrote:
I have only two more questions. Does the Reanimator Archetype replace bombs, and if so, with what?

The damage dice get reduced by one (d6 => d4) on the Reanimator's bombs. He gets to add undead creation spells to his formula list.

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Sebastian wrote:


Edgar Lamoureux wrote:
I have only two more questions. Does the Reanimator Archetype replace bombs, and if so, with what?
The damage dice get reduced by one (d6 => d4) on the Reanimator's bombs. He gets to add undead creation spells to his formula list.

Hrm... In that case , I'll have to think it over. Interesting, very interesting.

Edit: No, I don't believe that will work for this particular character, but it is definitely an avenue I'd like to pursue with a character or two.

Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

There are a dozen new familiars, including the iconic goat!


Sebastian wrote:
There are a dozen new familiars, including the iconic goat!

You just made my life exponentially better.

The Exchange

Sebastian wrote:
There are a dozen new familiars, including the iconic goat!

As well as the all-powerful tumor, I hope. BTW, I know I said I only had the two aforementioned questions, but what benefits do the tumor familiar bestow upon the alchemist?


Thank you Dark_mistress for the info.

Song healer sounds awesome

Summoner achtype that can make the guyver...Cool

Are there any bloodlines that are "Law", Based on any creature(s) from the Beastairy II, or based on a concept(music, life elemtal, etc.)and/or character class(witch, bard, druid,etc.)?

Like the sound of the monk one as well.

Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

Tumor familiars are disturbing. They effectively allow an alchemist to have a familiar, but it lives in the alcemist's body when not in use...

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