Mythic Monsters

As if the vanilla gogiteth wasn't terrifying enough: here's a MYTHIC one! I can't wait to get my copy.

I don't suppose they give any additional info in this about my favorite Mythic Creature -- Old Ebon Claw, the One-Eyed Hatred, do they?

The Oliphaunt’s art is not at the right scale. This beast is supposed to be "thousands of feets" high, so tall that the Spindelhorn has been built to make eye-contact with it.

This one is 5 to 10 times too small, I would say.

The Oliphaunt’s art is not at the right scale. This beast is supposed to be "thousands of feets" high, so tall that the Spindelhorn has been built to make eye-contact with it.

This one is 5 to 10 times too small, I would say.

Might be art for the Incarnate spell that temporarily summons a "manifestation."

What is the difference between a Mythic Kaiju and a non-Mythic Kaiju, one wonders.

What is the difference between a Mythic Kaiju and a non-Mythic Kaiju, one wonders.

"Number of burgeoning exemplars accidentally turned into toothpaste."

"Number of people who worship it as a god."

"Number of stories told about it."

"Number of times it stole the other kaiju's lunches."

"Number of active societies existing within its digestive tract."

My money's on "number of demigods snacked on".

Nice to see the unnamed mythic lich is back again; I hope it's got a similar artstyle to the one from Mythic Adventures.

"A party of 5th-level characters likely won’t face the demon lord Vulot directly in combat"
First of all, through Nocticula, all things are possible, so write that down.

Part of me does feel the Mythic Ogre should be the smart(ish) shapeshifting one from Puss in Boots, but that's kinda how we got that weird Oni=Western Giants lore in the first place, and we just got rid of that.

Ehhhh... All due respect to the artist (they have far more skill than I'll ever possess), but this interpretation of the Oliphaunt strikes me as being far too CUDDLY.

But then, I still remember the ominous, awe-inspiring rendition of the same creature from Pathfinder #5. Now THERE was a pachyderm that would prompt mortals to empty their bowels! :D

Speaking as a guy who saw some stuff, why are the kaijus not...kaiju-sized? Like, they're Gargantuan with nothing else. I can't believe that a Gargantuan creature can do the kind of damage that it's described from them.

Speaking as a guy who saw some stuff, why are the kaijus not...kaiju-sized? Like, they're Gargantuan with nothing else. I can't believe that a Gargantuan creature can do the kind of damage that it's described from them.

Well, Gargantuan in Pathfinder 2e is an "and up" size category. Mogaru is gargantuan, the planet Golarion is gargantuan, the local supercluster is gargantuan, the entire universe considered as a single object is gargantuan.

"What about Colossal creatures?"
"I don't think they exist."

Well, Gargantuan in Pathfinder 2e is an "and up" size category. Mogaru is gargantuan, the planet Golarion is gargantuan, the local supercluster is gargantuan, the entire universe considered as a single object is gargantuan.

Sure, but there's not an "and up" in this situation. When I say "the kaijus are Gargantuan," I mean "they take up a 20-foot-by-20-foot space."

I'm aware of things like the mu spore being Gargantuan in name only, since it has an ability that makes its space bigger, but the kaiju and the Oliphaunt are NOT like that. They are a 4-by-4 square, with a 20-ish foot reach. Which is, y'know, A LOT SMALLER than the city-leveling threats that they supposedly are.

The Oliphaunt’s art is not at the right scale. This beast is supposed to be "thousands of feets" high, so tall that the Spindelhorn has been built to make eye-contact with it.

This one is 5 to 10 times too small, I would say.

Oliphaunt calf maybe?

As far as I remember, the Oliphaunt appeared on Golarion only once, during an Azlanti invasion of Thassilon in -6301 AR, in the Age of Legend. So can I assume that the men in the art are Azlanti soldiers?

Vulot? I have never even heard that name. Has he ever been mentioned in other books? And since he is a demon lord, and also since demon lords' power range was from 26 to 30 CR in First Edition, his level would be 26, at least? And since Agyra's CR was 27 in First Edition, her level would be 27, I presume.

Speaking as a guy who saw some stuff, why are the kaijus not...kaiju-sized? Like, they're Gargantuan with nothing else. I can't believe that a Gargantuan creature can do the kind of damage that it's described from them.

Yeah, that's why I stil lthink removing the colossal size in Second Edition was a huge mistake. I think Paizo not only should bring the colossal size back in Third Edition, but also should add an even bigger size category, to properly represent truly big monsters like kaiju or the Oliphaunt!

As far as I remember, the Oliphaunt appeared on Golarion only once, during an Azlanti invasion of Thassilon in -6301 AR, in the Age of Legend. So can I assume that the men in the art are Azlanti soldiers?

Vulot? I have never even heard that name. Has he ever been mentioned in other books? And since he is a demon lord, and also since demon lords' power range was from 26 to 30 CR in First Edition, his level would be 26, at least? And since Agyra's CR was 27 in First Edition, her level would be 27, I presume.

KingTreyIII wrote:

Speaking as a guy who saw some stuff, why are the kaijus not...kaiju-sized? Like, they're Gargantuan with nothing else. I can't believe that a Gargantuan creature can do the kind of damage that it's described from them.

Yeah, that's why I stil lthink removing the colossal size in Second Edition was a huge mistake. I think Paizo not only should bring the colossal size back in Third Edition, but also should add an even bigger size category, to properly represent truly big monsters like kaiju or the Oliphaunt!

And what should the mechanical effects of these higher Sizes be ?

Even better, how would they matter to PCs ?

Though I admit having fond memories of my concept for a Weredragon Titan in ICE's Rolemaster.

Ehhhh... All due respect to the artist (they have far more skill than I'll ever possess), but this interpretation of the Oliphaunt strikes me as being far too CUDDLY.

But then, I still remember the ominous, awe-inspiring rendition of the same creature from Pathfinder #5. Now THERE was a pachyderm that would prompt mortals to empty their bowels! :D

I'm rather fond of this Oliphaunt artwork.

Graylight wrote:

Ehhhh... All due respect to the artist (they have far more skill than I'll ever possess), but this interpretation of the Oliphaunt strikes me as being far too CUDDLY.

But then, I still remember the ominous, awe-inspiring rendition of the same creature from Pathfinder #5. Now THERE was a pachyderm that would prompt mortals to empty their bowels! :D

I'm rather fond of this Oliphaunt artwork.

Yes. That's the proper size of the Oliphaunt.

PossibleCabbage wrote:

What is the difference between a Mythic Kaiju and a non-Mythic Kaiju, one wonders.

"Number of active societies existing within its digestive tract."

You guys have gotta do this now, hell, I might do it.

As far as I remember, the Oliphaunt appeared on Golarion only once, during an Azlanti invasion of Thassilon in -6301 AR, in the Age of Legend. So can I assume that the men in the art are Azlanti soldiers?

Could also be Thassilonian, from after the Azlanti army was defeated and the Oliphaunt was running around afterwards before finally making its save to return home. It also destroyed a fair chunk of Xin-Eurythnia

And what should the mechanical effects of these higher Sizes be ?

Even better, how would they matter to PCs ?

Though I admit having fond memories of my concept for a Weredragon Titan in ICE's Rolemaster.

Just in general, since most of the rules in a given story are going to revolve around the players, there's really no need to reinforce the edge cases with generally applicable extra rules when we could just craft bespoke rules for the specific edge case.

Just like we don't need a size category smaller than tiny for literal microbes when we can just say "no, you cannot roll to hit a virus with your arrow" we don't need a size category larger than Gargantuan for a Kaiju when we can just make specific rules for "encountering a Kaiju."

It takes a truly reckless and power hungry spellcaster to summon an aspect of the Oliphaunt of Jandelay. o_o

Aenigma wrote:

As far as I remember, the Oliphaunt appeared on Golarion only once, during an Azlanti invasion of Thassilon in -6301 AR, in the Age of Legend. So can I assume that the men in the art are Azlanti soldiers?

Could also be Thassilonian, from after the Azlanti army was defeated and the Oliphaunt was running around afterwards before finally making its save to return home. It also destroyed a fair chunk of Xin-Eurythnia

I think it's an "Aspect" of the actual Oliphaunt of Jandelay. Perhaps summoned via a mythic-level spell?

It takes a truly reckless and power hungry spellcaster to summon an aspect of the Oliphaunt of Jandelay. o_o

If you had said, "It takes a truly reckless and power hungry spellcaster to summon the Oliphaunt of Jandelay," I would have agreed with you.

But a mere aspect? Nah.

Should have included the stats of Osoyo the Blackfrost Whale from Gatewalkers.

Gisher wrote:

Graylight wrote:

Ehhhh... All due respect to the artist (they have far more skill than I'll ever possess), but this interpretation of the Oliphaunt strikes me as being far too CUDDLY.

But then, I still remember the ominous, awe-inspiring rendition of the same creature from Pathfinder #5. Now THERE was a pachyderm that would prompt mortals to empty their bowels! :D

I'm rather fond of this Oliphaunt artwork.

Yes. That's the proper size of the Oliphaunt.

Reminder that oliphaunt in 1e was "Space 80 ft., Reach 80 ft."

I loved ridiculously big colossal creatures x'D

Reminder that oliphaunt in 1e was "Space 80 ft., Reach 80 ft."

I loved ridiculously big colossal creatures x'D

Yeah, if Mogaru is the Godzilla of Golarion, the Oliphaunt of Jandelay is the Godzilla of the Multiverse!

As if the vanilla gogiteth wasn't terrifying enough: here's a MYTHIC one! I can't wait to get my copy.

We don't have to let the mythic gogiteth into our games...we don't even have to let gogiteths into our games either.

They are terrifying.