Sorry folks, no new updates for this week.

No new updates for this week either.

Someday, there's going to be news here again, and it is going to catch me totally by surprise.

Another quiet week so no update.

Another quiet week so no update.

I appreciate the updates but I do have a question. Are you actively reaching out to Prodos/Archon each week or passively checking whether they've updated you of their own accord?

Jeff Alvarez wrote:

Another quiet week so no update.

I appreciate the updates but I do have a question. Are you actively reaching out to Prodos/Archon each week or passively checking whether they've updated you of their own accord?

It is likely more passive than you would like but there's also no real way for us to make them talk to us and there's no real way for us to apply pressure on them to produce things at a faster pace. They took over the job of fulfilling this and were given a big empty hole to fill so they are working on filling it as best they can. They still need to keep their core business moving forward and are working on this as they have capacity.

The figures they have produced have been awesome and the future sculpts we've seen look equally great. We just need them to be in a place to release the next wave and I don't have any timeline on that.

It is likely more passive than you would like but there's also no real way for us to make them talk to us and there's no real way for us to apply pressure on them to produce things at a faster pace. They took over the job of fulfilling this and were given a big empty hole to fill so they are working on filling it as best they can. They still need to keep their core business moving forward and are working on this as they have capacity.

The figures they have produced have been awesome and the future sculpts we've seen look equally great. We just need them to be in a place to release the next wave and I don't have any timeline on that.

Thanks for the honest and quick response even if it's not the answer I was hoping for.

Just checking in. This is the first PaizoCon where Ninja Division/Masterclass wasn't even hinted at.

No real updates that I saw about Miniatures lines at all. Can't wait for the Con to be in person again.

No new updates for this week.

Sorry folks but no new update for this week.

No updates for this week.

Hello everyone!! Starfinder enthusiastic here.

I'm not a KS backer for this game, so first, sorry for everyone that was caugth on the problems with this one.

I purchase some of the Archon minis and I like them a lot, but with the schedule that they have, it seems like forever to have a proper Starfinder miniature collection.

As an alternative, have you thought about selling the 3D models?
Of course, giving it free for all the backers.

I have a 3D printer, and I would love to print the already made 3D models . And I don't know but I guess that for some backers, having the possibility of printing their minis would be better than not having anything (like it happens now).

Maybe, you could even consider to make an official patreon or have a MyMiniFactory place to expand the range with a lot of the characters that the last books have shown us.

Thanks and hope you the best!

It's been asked, and it will not be done. The reasoning depends on on which party (Paizo/ND/Archon); either they don't own the models, they may own some of the models and have agreed not to make them available, or they are using the models to make some profit—or just break even—while fulfilling the kickstarter... albeit slowly.

It's been asked, and it will not be done. The reasoning depends on on which party (Paizo/ND/Archon); either they don't own the models, they may own some of the models and have agreed not to make them available, or they are using the models to make some profit—or just break even—while fulfilling the kickstarter... albeit slowly.

Thanks for the aclaration. It's a bit sad that something that could have been an amazing collection of figures have become in this. Again, sorry for the backers.

And anyone know some place or modeler that made 3D sculpts ready for print for Starfinder?? Some Patreon or MyminiFactory??

Another quiet week with no updates.

No new updates.

Appreciate that you keep checking in every week. Definitely stems the tide of anger at Ninja Division having the weekly check ins, but at this point I am not really believing Archon will meet that goal post of getting any mini's out to people who don't order from them.

I know there are no updates, but when was the last time you guys reached out and asked for a status report on intended progress...?

Have you checked in and they haven't responded with reportable info, haven't responded at all, possibly haven't checked in in a while?

Thanks again Jeff, your presence in the thread is probably the only thing keeping the pitch forks in the sheds, but no update or news for months is a bit exasperating.

Appreciate that you keep checking in every week. Definitely stems the tide of anger at Ninja Division having the weekly check ins, but at this point I am not really believing Archon will meet that goal post of getting any mini's out to people who don't order from them.

I know there are no updates, but when was the last time you guys reached out and asked for a status report on intended progress...?

Have you checked in and they haven't responded with reportable info, haven't responded at all, possibly haven't checked in in a while?

Thanks again Jeff, your presence in the thread is probably the only thing keeping the pitch forks in the sheds, but no update or news for months is a bit exasperating.

We check with them on a weekly basis but most of the time we are met with little to no reply. I know that they are inching forward on a few sculpts but with minimal communication and no proposed timelines, it's hard for us to share anything with you guys.

What I do know is they haven't asked to pull out of the fulfillment project so I'd expect them to keep moving forward, even if it's mm by mm. And we will continue to email and call and try to learn what we can and share what we can.

Big news this week...

Wave 4 should be releasing this month and Archon should have an announcement about this in the next week or so.

Wave 5 is in tooling and should be ready for release in August.

Wave 6 is in design and should be ready for release in September/October.

When will Archon actually ship anything to backers without additional purchase? After Wave 6?

When will Archon actually ship anything to backers without additional purchase? After Wave 6?

That is the plan Archon has provided to us, so as far as we know yes.

No further update this week.

Another quiet week with no new updates.

Archon has a post on their FB of some cool space goblins https://www.facebook.com/archonstudio/photos/a.445957762269748/167295521290 3324/?type=3

Yep Archon has posted Wave 4 details! This wave includes:

1x Starfinder Space Goblin Honchohead
4x Starfinder Space Goblin Zaperators
1x Starfinder Space Goblin Dual Wielder
1x Starfinder Asteray

Shipping is scheduled to begin on July 29th and pre-orders are open now.

Nothing new to add for this week.

Quiet week so no updates.

Just checking in. Keeping hope alive.

The space goblins do look nice

Unfortunately no new updates for today.

has any backers of the rest of the world received anything from ND since Archon took over ?

i know i havent, what about you guys ?

has any backers of the rest of the world received anything from ND since Archon took over ?

i know i havent, what about you guys ?

No one has received any mini's since Archon took over unless you placed an order with Archon and let them know you were a backer.

I think it is going to be interesting to see what happens when wave 6 comes around. Originally Archon said ND would be shipping to the states. I will be surprised if ND picks up the phone when the time comes.

No new updates this week.

No new updates this week.

After the whole KS debacle, I have to admit I entirely pulled out of all Paizo products. I returned all my Starfinder stuff, sold off all my Pathfinder books and just ignored PF2. I didn't buy any minis from their line any more either. Petty? Yes, for sure, but I can only vote with my dollars. Today I had a viewer who works on the PF2 SRD pop into my chat and told me you were trying to redress the situation after I'd honestly entirely given up hope, so I lumbered into the forums after a long time of ignoring it.

I see you're working on trying to fix it. It was never about the money for me and I won't re-litigate the entire situation but I am seeing a lot of communications and I'm really happy to see the progress even if it is in small steps.

I'll discuss it on stream this week and perhaps spend some time learning PF2 on Twitch. Your communication matters Jeff, so thanks for providing updates even if there is not much to report on.

Thanks for the kind words, Raakam. I'm doing my best to provide what insight we have into Archon's processes but info is limited. And apologies for not posting yesterday but I'm on vacation and just had some time to post tonight. No new updates this week.

Wave 5 has some nice looking Vesk https://archon-studio.com/shop/23-starfinder

Linked: Wave 5 has some nice looking Vesk.

With tails!

I thought I posted on Thursday but I guess it didn't take. No new updates for the week.

And another quiet week with no updates.

I was an "all in" backer, and I never actually received anything other than a handful of loose packed resin models years ago. I backed through the pledge manager instead of Kickstarter, so I wasn't getting updates about the drama. I have made several attempts to contact the project through the pledge manager (https://www.gameontabletop.com/cf91/starfinder-miniatures-pledge-manager.h tml), but have never gotten a response.

Who should I be contacting to address this?

Guess it depends on what you hope to address:
1. Getting some minis: Either wait for Archon to finish wave 6 eventually and then hope that Ninja Division (ND) actually handles the shipping, or you can buy some minis from Archon and let them know that you're a backer and they'll send you what they've made so far.
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2. Getting a refund: No one. Not gonna happen. No one will take responsibility for this. You can plead the fraud angle to the Federal Trade Commission and the Iowa Attorney General, but none of us other backers have had luck with this.
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3. Finding out the state of the project: No one. ND won't respond. Paizo is dependent on Archon and/or ND for information. Archon might respond, but there's a language barrier for non-polish speakers, and they are likely to direct you here or to their Starfinder page for news.

I'm just interested in #1.

So, are your saying I should have been reaching out to Archon? Do they have a point of contact for backers, or should I just use the regular customer service form on their website?

I'm just interested in #1.

So, are your saying I should have been reaching out to Archon? Do they have a point of contact for backers, or should I just use the regular customer service form on their website?

I guess it depends on what information you want. If you just want to know when they'll ship, the answer will likely be something along the lines of 'when they're done.'

If you haven't followed everything, Archon picked up the Paizo license and agreed to fulfill the original Kickstarter pledges. They're not making any money on those, obviously—pledge money when to ND—so they're completing the Kickstarter commitments at a slow pace.

Once they're done, ND is supposed to ship the US orders and Archon will ship the rest of the world. Archon has also been shipping whatever Kickstarter minis are completed to any Kickstarter backers who order anything, even one mini. If you go this route, you'll need to tell them you're a backer and give them your backer info. People have reported that, while they didn't get any communication confirming them, the KS minis did show up with their order.

You can see what's been completed at Archon's Starfinder page, along with the original miniatures that Archon has produced.

I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing the boat. It sounded like other people were getting stuff and I was worried my name had been left off the list because I was a late backer.

Speaking of ND; if they can't be bothered to update their KS page in over a year, how can they be trusted to deliver the minis?

@ Jeff Alvarez - have you had any contacts at all with ND about their plans and how they think they can deliver the minis after the next wave comes out? If ND were going to do the delivery to the US, there are a lot of logistical issues that they should be planning for.

Things seemed to have gone quiet on this thread, especially Paizo who had been updating almost weekly, but now have been silent for over a month.

Yeah, I'm not surprised, given what has been going on internally since early September.

Just sort of shows the commitment levels. Was waiting to see if posts would start here on their own, but at this stage it feels like even the effort of weekly 'nothing to report' is too much.

Yeah, I'm not surprised, given what has been going on internally since early September.

Oh, what's been going on internally since September?