Advanced Class Guide

Wednesday, August 28, 2013

Just a few weeks ago, we announced the Pathfinder RPG Advanced Class Guide, an exciting new addition to the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game due out next summer. While we talked about it a fair bit at Gencon, this blog post is here to get you caught up on all the news!

This 256-page rulebook will contain 10 new classes, each a mix of two existing classes, taking a bit from each class and adding new mechanics to give you a unique character. Around the office we're calling them "hybrid classes." You can think of the magus (from Ultimate Magic) as our first test of this concept. It takes some rules from the fighter, some rules from the wizard, and then adds its own unique mechanics.

At this point, you're probably wondering what new classes you can expect to see in the Advanced Class Guide. So far, we've announced five of the ten classes.

Bloodrager: This blend of sorcerer and barbarian can call upon the power of his blood whenever he goes into a rage. He also has a limited selection of spells he can call upon, even when in a mindless fury!

Hunter: Taking powers from both the druid and the ranger, the hunter is never without her trusted animal companion, hunting down foes with lethal accuracy.

Shaman: Calling upon the spirits to aid her, the shaman draws upon class features of the oracle and the witch. Each day, she can commune with different spirits to aid her and her allies.

Slayer: Look at all the blood! The slayer blends the rogue and the ranger to create a character that is all about taking down particular targets.

Warpriest: Most religions have martial traditions, and warpriests are often the backbones of such orders. This mix of cleric and fighter can call upon the blessings of the gods to defeat enemies of their faiths.

Of course, those are just half the classes in this book. There are four more we have yet to reveal.

"Four?" you say. "But I thought there were ten!" And you would be right—because I'm about to let you in on another of the classes that will appear in this book, which we haven't announced until this moment!

Swashbuckler: Break out your rapier and your wit! The swashbuckler uses panache and daring to get the job done, blending the powers of the fighter and the gunslinger! For those of you who don't use guns in your campaign, fear not—the base class is not proficient in firearms (although there will certainly be an archetype in the book that fix that).

But that's not all! This book will also contain archetypes for all 10 new classes, as well as a selection to help existing classes play with some of the new features in this book. There will also be feats and spells to support these new classes, as well as magic items that will undoubtedly become favorites for nearly any character. Last but not least, the final chapter in this book will give you a peek inside the design process for classes and archetypes, giving you plenty of tips and guides to build your own! Since class design is more art than science, this won't be a system (like in the Advanced Race Guide), but rather a chapter giving you advice on how the process works.

So, there you go. That's six of the 10 classes that will appear in the Advanced Class Guide and an overview of what else you can expect from this exciting new book. While it's due to release next August, you won't have to wait too long to get your hands on these classes, because we're planning to do a public playtest here this fall! Check back here for more news as the playtest draws close!

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer

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Zombie Ninja wrote:


Swashbuckler = Normally just fine, but there is an archetype by that name. To avoid confusion consider buccaneer.

There's a Buccaneer Archetype as well in the Advanced Race Guide, so you're going to have to try again if you're trying to avoid confusion, though frankly I just think it's a sign that the whole Swashbuckler concepts been done to death by Paizo already.


I was up at midnight when Chronicle of the Righteous came out, and it was on the hour.

Just sayin'.

Silver Crusade

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Valerui wrote:
Zombie Ninja wrote:


Swashbuckler = Normally just fine, but there is an archetype by that name. To avoid confusion consider buccaneer.

There's a Buccaneer Archetype as well in the Advanced Race Guide, so you're going to have to try again if you're trying to avoid confusion, though frankly I just think it's a sign that the whole Swashbuckler concepts been done to death by Paizo already.

That doesn't mean it's been done right.

Silver Crusade

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Axial wrote:

I was up at midnight when Chronicle of the Righteous came out, and it was on the hour.

Just sayin'.

Blog posts are their own special animal, and the playtest gets released with the blog post.


Guys, there are at least two archetypes with the same name. Many players don't even use archetypes, so there's no reason to hold the name hostage.

Swashbuckler rogue or brawler fighter works just as well too differentiate the dudes!


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Cheapy wrote:

Well, first you figure out which building on a campus that isn't Paizo's HQ that Ross works at...

Not sure what giving him caffeine at midnight would do.

Gremlins.

Dark Archive

My concepts so far

blood rager- lil badger. "Dont mess with me, homes"
Warpriest/swasbuckler- Rodger. "For the Pirate Queen"


Undead Bloodrager: I get so angry my heart Stops!

Silver Crusade

The NPC wrote:
Undead Bloodrager: I get so angry my heart Stops!

That's funny for all the wrong reasons.

It gives the Verdant rager some competition though.

Dark Archive

Let me guess the playtest isn't out till the AM? lol


Mr.Nightray wrote:
Let me guess the playtest isn't out till the AM? lol

Still the PM for the Paizo guys.

Dark Archive

Thanks Peter.. Off to bed with me..


Rysky wrote:
The NPC wrote:
Undead Bloodrager: I get so angry my heart Stops!
That's funny for all the wrong reasons.

Oh, Elizabeth! This is the big one!

Liberty's Edge

The NPC wrote:
Undead Bloodrager: I get so angry my heart Stops!

I have a player who is instant that he has to do that concept. He is goading his brother who wants to play test the bloodrager into taking the undead bloodline.

The Exchange

Officially Tuesday (paizo time), can't wait until the document is released. Even though I am sure they are going to make us wait all day!


Is the playtest out yet?!?!


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Is it up yet, Papa Smurf?


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I wouldn't expect it till around noon or later EST (about 9:00 am PST)


Daemon Bloodrager: Ichigo Kurosaki?


I saw the ad on the RPG.net forum for the playtest. It seems to lead to the right page, but it is just empty right now.


I'm refreshing every half hour to see.


I have to test this smurf thing.

The Exchange

Arg... I want to see the new classes so much!


Pupsocket wrote:
I have to test this s***f thing.

It also works if you say "It's morphin' time!"


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It's morphin' time!


Is this gonna become a smurf thread?

Cause I'm fine with that.


♪Playtesting we shall go,
Playtesting we shall go...♪

Silver Crusade

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I think the ACG iconics should be smurfs.


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber

What is with all the smurfs?


Azouth wrote:
What is with all the smurfs?

I Blame the Belgians, for the Smurfs that is.

Silver Crusade

Aaarg! its 3:05 AM!! I want the new classes!


Enough speaking of Les Schtroumpfs. I am eagerly and impatiently awaiting this playtest.

The Exchange

It's after 4 eastern... is Paizo Pacific? That's still a whole hour after midnight!


Steven "Troll" O'Neal wrote:
Enough speaking of Les Schtroumpfs. I am eagerly and impatiently awaiting this playtest.

Clever, they get you even if you say it in French.

Shadow Lodge

>_<; I should have just gone to bed, but, no, I thought, "What if they put it up at midnight?!?"... -_-; Now I just sit here refreshing and wishing I would have forgotten until morning.

Silver Crusade

we probably wont get it until midday... I hate waiting...

The Exchange

Yeah... same thing Maneko... now I'm committed and have to keep saying: "Just a few more minutes."


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Where should I look for it, when they put it out, in the blogs?

Silver Crusade

I think its supposed to be in the pathfinder society section in additional resources but i'm not sure

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

It will be up on the blog.


Azouth wrote:
Where should I look for it, when they put it out, in the blogs?

They usually do announce it in the blog.

Shadow Lodge

SSSQQQQUUUUEEEEEEEE!!!!!!! Today's the day!


Now if only they'd post it already!


A character I once played briefly fits the bloodrager perfectly. A barabarian refluff. He came from a clan of people who where all of them cursed with an inner demon that if conquered in an internal battle can be channeled through their rages.

Why am I just remembering this NOW hours before the class that fits it perfectly starts playtesting?!


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Boreal Bloodrager would basically need a bard in the background constantly playing the Immigrant Song .


I'm aware that the playtest file isn't coming until later today (local time), but already I'm concerned about retraining rules regarding the hybrids.

I made a character a while back that's pretty much exactly like the brawler, from what I've seen so far - even in its conceptual level; a martial artist monk with whom I eventually planned to take on levels of brawler fighter (which leads me to wonder why do they have same names as already existing archetypes of other classes. Yes I'm aware that at some point it becomes difficult to invent new names, and I'm fine with that, just a bit "awkward" situation, if I may say so... And then again, I tend to speak of my characters with their names, not what class they are. I'm sure many, if not all of you, do the same ;P)

Anyhow, the question that keeps bothering me already is that how will retraining rules work with the "parent" classes. I mean do they count as synergetic in regards to how long it takes to retrain a level, etc. Obviously that seems like a no-brainer "Yes, they do" but can't be certain. And more so, is it allowed especially in Pathfinder Society to retrain existing "parent" class levels to a playtest version of a hybrid class? (unfortunately the said character mentioned above has just reached third level, and right now is waiting for what to do with that third level)


Steven "Troll" O'Neal wrote:
Clever, they get you even if you say it in French.

Hmmmm, I wonder if it also reacts to die Schlümpfe.

Nope. I broke it :) So when you're referencing little blue people just use German.

Anyway I want me playtest document!


I hate myself for refreshing so much. But I can't stop either. :(
C'mon playtest already!


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It's only 3 in the night. You probably have to wait at least 6 to 8 more hours.

Grand Lodge

Oh dear, here in germany it is 12.o9pm. Since I'm awake, I'm waiting for the playtestmaterial. Unfortunately, that will probably take a while to appear.

p.s. Sorry for my bad englishskills,
I can read it better than write

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