Advanced Class Guide

Wednesday, August 28, 2013

Just a few weeks ago, we announced the Pathfinder RPG Advanced Class Guide, an exciting new addition to the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game due out next summer. While we talked about it a fair bit at Gencon, this blog post is here to get you caught up on all the news!

This 256-page rulebook will contain 10 new classes, each a mix of two existing classes, taking a bit from each class and adding new mechanics to give you a unique character. Around the office we're calling them "hybrid classes." You can think of the magus (from Ultimate Magic) as our first test of this concept. It takes some rules from the fighter, some rules from the wizard, and then adds its own unique mechanics.

At this point, you're probably wondering what new classes you can expect to see in the Advanced Class Guide. So far, we've announced five of the ten classes.

Bloodrager: This blend of sorcerer and barbarian can call upon the power of his blood whenever he goes into a rage. He also has a limited selection of spells he can call upon, even when in a mindless fury!

Hunter: Taking powers from both the druid and the ranger, the hunter is never without her trusted animal companion, hunting down foes with lethal accuracy.

Shaman: Calling upon the spirits to aid her, the shaman draws upon class features of the oracle and the witch. Each day, she can commune with different spirits to aid her and her allies.

Slayer: Look at all the blood! The slayer blends the rogue and the ranger to create a character that is all about taking down particular targets.

Warpriest: Most religions have martial traditions, and warpriests are often the backbones of such orders. This mix of cleric and fighter can call upon the blessings of the gods to defeat enemies of their faiths.

Of course, those are just half the classes in this book. There are four more we have yet to reveal.

"Four?" you say. "But I thought there were ten!" And you would be right—because I'm about to let you in on another of the classes that will appear in this book, which we haven't announced until this moment!

Swashbuckler: Break out your rapier and your wit! The swashbuckler uses panache and daring to get the job done, blending the powers of the fighter and the gunslinger! For those of you who don't use guns in your campaign, fear not—the base class is not proficient in firearms (although there will certainly be an archetype in the book that fix that).

But that's not all! This book will also contain archetypes for all 10 new classes, as well as a selection to help existing classes play with some of the new features in this book. There will also be feats and spells to support these new classes, as well as magic items that will undoubtedly become favorites for nearly any character. Last but not least, the final chapter in this book will give you a peek inside the design process for classes and archetypes, giving you plenty of tips and guides to build your own! Since class design is more art than science, this won't be a system (like in the Advanced Race Guide), but rather a chapter giving you advice on how the process works.

So, there you go. That's six of the 10 classes that will appear in the Advanced Class Guide and an overview of what else you can expect from this exciting new book. While it's due to release next August, you won't have to wait too long to get your hands on these classes, because we're planning to do a public playtest here this fall! Check back here for more news as the playtest draws close!

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer

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Matthew Shelton wrote:

Curious now: the name "Arcanist"

what pronounciation do you use?

(a) arr CAN ist

(b) arr CANE ist

(c) ARR can ist

I've never had to say it out loud. Mentally I began with version B but at some point without noticing I've starting using version C and it's stayed that way.

I go with (A). The term's seen common use as "any arcane caster if you don't want to be precise about class" for years for me and mine.

This is going to make that bit a little confusing, admittedly.

Dark Archive

Pronunciation C for me.

Lantern Lodge

Kitsune Investigator: Detective Prower. What do you think? New Society member? I was going to make him out of the Bard Archetype, but I've been waiting to see what this is about, first.


The page was open... with words... and a link to the download... and I clicked the download and... and...

REALIZED I WASN'T SIGNED IN!

Now it's blank and gone. GONE!


Orthos wrote:
I presume it got leaked a bit early and will be back up around 11 Paizo time.


AndIMustMask wrote:
Matthew Shelton wrote:

Curious now: the name "Arcanist"

what pronounciation do you use?

(a) arr CAN ist

(b) arr CANE ist

(c) ARR can ist

I've never had to say it out loud. Mentally I began with version B but at some point without noticing I've starting using version C and it's stayed that way.

i generally use B unless it's got a setting specific pronunciation (such as in some video games).

you also forgot (d) ARR cahn ist

I've been pronouncing it ar KA nist.


28 minutes! EEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRGH!


Why i see a blank page?


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I have been up since 1:00 PM yesterday (slept in) and I haven't been able to sleep. Paizo's demon's won't let me sleep!


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Thorthunder wrote:
Why i see a blank page?

The playtest isn't out yet: 24 minutes.

Dark Archive

Who wants to bet that the servers will burst into flames from the force of our frenzied clicks?


Alexander Augunas wrote:
Dragon78 wrote:
Swashbuckler- A fighter plus Gunslinger, Meh, now if you add rouge instead of gunslinger then I will be interested. What we really need is a dex based fighter that is worth it.
Love you to death, Dragon, but that statement is REALLY contradictory.

where can i download the pdf?


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Orthos wrote:
Ashanderai wrote:
Manimal wrote:
It does say 11:00 am on the news blurb...
Really? Mine says 12pm. I'm on AZ time, which this time of year is equal to Mountain time. So, in about 45 minutes...
You are like the third or fourth person I've found on these forums living in AZ, three years after I left. While I was living there I knew of my own group and no others. <_<

That is okay; I didn't get here until three years ago.


Jessie Scott wrote:

Quick guys, keep hammering your F5 keys! It'll make it go quicker!

I'm being kind of productive too. I can hit my F5 key between tasks.

There is a plug in for Firefox which will monitor web pages for changes or additions. You can also set sensitivity of changes (ignoring 50 or 100 characters or less, for example). I think it is called web page scanner. Might be worth checking out.

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Golarion Goblin wrote:
Azran wrote:

Im currently running RotRl and the hole bunch of villains is going to get an overhaul:

** spoiler omitted **
Glad I'm not the only one thinking this. I'm gonna be running RotR in a few months, and I'm already thinking similar changes. I'd keep Gogmurt the same though, IMHO. My Kingmaker party is literally at the Stag Lord's fort, and I think that Staggy may get a Slayer redo.

Will the Stag Lord........

REIGN IN BLOOD?

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Brandon M Dees wrote:

Who wants to bet that the servers will burst into flames from the force of our frenzied clicks?

Yeah, I'm not backing those odds. Friendly DDOS coming up.

Liberty's Edge

Merriam Webster gives ar-CANE-ist as the proper pronunciation.


Matthew Shelton wrote:

Curious now: the name "Arcanist"

what pronounciation do you use?

(a) arr CAN ist

(b) arr CANE ist

(c) ARR can ist

I've never had to say it out loud. Mentally I began with version B but at some point without noticing I've starting using version C and it's stayed that way.

(b) arr CANE ist


Matthew Shelton wrote:

Curious now: the name "Arcanist"

what pronounciation do you use?

(a) arr CAN ist

(b) arr CANE ist

(c) ARR can ist

I've never had to say it out loud. Mentally I began with version B but at some point without noticing I've starting using version C and it's stayed that way.

I'd never even considered that there was an option other than C. I guess regional dialects can change all sorts of things.


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Longest hour of my life I swear to god.

Shadow Lodge

The page with the announcement is gone now. :(

Silver Crusade

Shisumo wrote:
Merriam Webster gives ar-CANE-ist as the proper pronunciation.

The OED concurs.

OED wrote:

arcanist, n.

Pronunciation: /ɑːˈkeɪnɪst/
Etymology: < arcan- (in arcanum n.) + -ist suffix.

Used spec. of a person who has knowledge of a secret process of manufacture, esp. of the manufacture of porcelain.

Quotations wrote:

1905 R. L. Hobson Catal. Coll. Eng. Porc. Brit. Mus. p. xv, The royal houses vied with each other in securing the services of the arcanists from Meissen.

1939 Burlington Mag. Oct. 172/2 The death of the arcanist and manager..brought to an end..the first period of the [porcelain] factory.

1959 Times 10 Oct. 9/3 We also had our wandering arcanists.


But the page the announcement linked to isn't.


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I bet they waited until 11a to release the playtest so that they could incorporate every last bit of the talmudic wisdom in the message board threads.

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Ivan Rûski wrote:
But the page the announcement linked to isn't.

Now that's just weird.

Paizo Employee Lead Designer

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Hmm.. folks here sure to seem to be worked up about something.. I can't imagine what.

Jason
I be Trollin...


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<hearing Jeopardy music in my head>

We'll get you for this Jason!


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Jason Bulmahn wrote:

Hmm.. folks here sure to seem to be worked up about something.. I can't imagine what.

Jason
I be Trollin...

You're so mean to us. Y-Y


Damn you, Bulmahn! *shakes fist* :p

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Jason Bulmahn wrote:

Hmm.. folks here sure to seem to be worked up about something.. I can't imagine what.

Jason
I be Trollin...

Alan Parsons Project Via Bulmahn wrote:


I see the world
And I'm looking from a high place
Way above it all
Standing on higher ground

I breathe the air
While they're running in a rat race
Way above it all
Standing on higher ground


Matthew Shelton wrote:

Curious now: the name "Arcanist"

what pronounciation do you use?

(a) arr CAN ist

(b) arr CANE ist

(c) ARR can ist

I've never had to say it out loud. Mentally I began with version B but at some point without noticing I've starting using version C and it's stayed that way.

It is definitely objectively b) arr CANE ist. Just about every online dictionary and pronunciation guide says so.


I already sacrificed my car, son and my better eye to this.

OUT WITH IT!!!!


5 people marked this as a favorite.
Jason Bulmahn wrote:

Hmm.. folks here sure to seem to be worked up about something.. I can't imagine what.

Jason
I be Trollin...

...armor spikes.

Grand Lodge

Like a kid with a magnifying glass, watchen us squerm


F5,F5,F5,F5....


Jason Bulmahn wrote:

Hmm.. folks here sure to seem to be worked up about something.. I can't imagine what.

Jason
I be Trollin...

They see me trollin, they hatin'...

Wasn't there supposed to be some test thing that releases today? I think it was something like the extra crafting rules play test?


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I like my version of Arcanist better, just like my Drow that rhymes with plow. :)


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I might enter a Bloodrage soon, just to warn you.


Jessie Scott wrote:
Jason Bulmahn wrote:

Hmm.. folks here sure to seem to be worked up about something.. I can't imagine what.

Jason
I be Trollin...

They see me trollin, they hatin'...

Wasn't there supposed to be some test thing that releases today? I think it was something like the extra crafting rules play test?

I thought it was the new Turkey and Penguin animal companions to go with the season's festivities.


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It's like watching a bunch of fox hounds about to be unleashed on a hunt...

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Jason Bulmahn wrote:

Hmm.. folks here sure to seem to be worked up about something.. I can't imagine what.

Jason
I be Trollin...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8l2bzyyKqg


Lamontius wrote:
Jason Bulmahn wrote:

Hmm.. folks here sure to seem to be worked up about something.. I can't imagine what.

Jason
I be Trollin...

...armor spikes.

*slow clap*

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

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zergtitan wrote:
I might enter a Bloodrage soon, just to warn you.

That'll be good playtest data.


Captain Fremont wrote:
Jessie Scott wrote:
Jason Bulmahn wrote:

Hmm.. folks here sure to seem to be worked up about something.. I can't imagine what.

Jason
I be Trollin...

They see me trollin, they hatin'...

Wasn't there supposed to be some test thing that releases today? I think it was something like the extra crafting rules play test?

I thought it was the new Turkey and Penguin animal companions to go with the season's festivities.

*lifts bottle threateningly*


Selsenay wrote:
Matthew Shelton wrote:

Curious now: the name "Arcanist"

what pronounciation do you use?

(a) arr CAN ist

(b) arr CANE ist

(c) ARR can ist

I've never had to say it out loud. Mentally I began with version B but at some point without noticing I've starting using version C and it's stayed that way.

It is definitely objectively b) arr CANE ist. Just about every online dictionary and pronunciation guide says so.

That's not how language works.


...my data remaining meter for my internet has dropped 4% while refreshing pages here.


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Jason Bulmahn wrote:

Hmm.. folks here sure to seem to be worked up about something.. I can't imagine what.

Jason
I be Trollin...

BULMAHN!!!!! *shakes fist*

Silver Crusade

Jason Bulmahn wrote:

Hmm.. folks here sure to seem to be worked up about something.. I can't imagine what.

Jason
I be Trollin...

Get your Dragon Bane Armor Spikes everyone! It be Dwagin Season!


I have not said anything but I have been Investigating since 6:30a my time. I think I am close to cracking this case.


Jason Bulmahn wrote:

Hmm.. folks here sure to seem to be worked up about something.. I can't imagine what.

Jason
I be Trollin...

That is just cruel. I'd yell at you but I'd guess when we get it no longer has anything to do with you (and is with the technical guys putting it on the site). So, thanks for the hard work. Hopefully you have some scotch to prepare you for the tidal wave of 'feedback' you are about to get.

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