Everyone is bringing all these complicated three or four class amalgamations and I’m sitting here looking at the base cleric class. Might find a way to make her more interesting.
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Lol- you guys are getting class level?
I've actually changed my mind and will build towards a Bard, because everybody loves bards and you guys will love me, so yeah, I'm actually taking as most class levels at possib...
*looks at one of the submitted characters*
Wait, are we allowed to take more than one template? That changes it all...
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Everyone is bringing all these complicated three or four class amalgamations and I’m sitting here looking at the base cleric class. Might find a way to make her more interesting.
Sometimes being a “regular” person makes for a good story.
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Plus I'm like 90% certain with the rules as listed, you could take just an average human and make them way more powerful than any of these mishmashes of templates and monsters. xD
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Everyone is bringing all these complicated three or four class amalgamations and I’m sitting here looking at the base cleric class. Might find a way to make her more interesting.Sometimes being a “regular” person makes for a good story.
Yeah I don’t think my 10 feet tall 400 lb. undead monstrosity with a giant scythe for a hand is “regular” or even a “person”, really. But she appreciates the compliments!
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Yeah I don’t think my 10 feet tall 400 lb. undead monstrosity with a giant scythe for a hand is “regular” or even a “person”, really. But she appreciates the compliments!Everyone is bringing all these complicated three or four class amalgamations and I’m sitting here looking at the base cleric class. Might find a way to make her more interesting.Sometimes being a “regular” person makes for a good story.
By the standards of the abyss that sounds pretty normal to me!
Is everyone ending up with a +40ish to hit and damage, +20ish to saves, and most attributes close to 24-28?
Because if so, there might be little reason to play a Bard, and I will probably resume my initial idea.
No, not even close on attack bonus. Here's my work-in-progress, that's mostly complete except for equipment and spells.
Would it be possible to switch the 6 levels of cleric casting the Daughter gets to a different class? Just looking at options and seeing if I want to actually be a cleric.
About +20 to hit and +35 or so damage. With 5 attacks.
Saves (21/16/11, undead resistances) Relying on being undead to carry him in that department
Would it be possible to switch the 6 levels of cleric casting the Daughter gets to a different class? Just looking at options and seeing if I want to actually be a cleric.
Have a legendary item with cleric spellcasting. It’s an intelligent holy item! Rather than be a cleric just carry one around.
If you choose legendary item at tier 3 and 6, you can have lots of spellcasting. Tops our at lvl5 spells. The way it works is that each tier you get 5 points to spend, with each spell bought being 1 point per level. Buy a spell once and it is a 1/day SLA. Buy it twice and it is 3/day SLA.
Would it be possible to switch the 6 levels of cleric casting the Daughter gets to a different class? Just looking at options and seeing if I want to actually be a cleric.
I'd allow it.
Would it be possible to switch the 6 levels of cleric casting the Daughter gets to a different class? Just looking at options and seeing if I want to actually be a cleric.I'd allow it.
Thanks! Not saying I will, just deciding on the most fun, is all.
@Grumbaki- it's not 5 points/tier, it's 5 points/time you select intelligent item as your legendary item ability (after the first) and apply the special ability that grants to spellcasting. So, at tier 6 you could have a maximum of 25 spell levels if you spent all 6 of your legendary item abilities on intelligent item. That's still no joke (its enough to have a 5th level spell 1/day plus a 4th, 3rd, 2nd, and 1st level spell that are each usable 3/day) but that does mean you would get no other legendary abilities at all (except the free base abilities).
Would you allow Aasimar/Tieflings to roll on the weird racial abilities table?
Would you allow Aasimar/Tieflings to roll on the weird racial abilities table?
Sure.
Neat. If I pick either, this'll be my roll:
I can constantly speak with horses, looks like...fits well actually. Better than Pyrotechnics.
@Grumbaki- it's not 5 points/tier, it's 5 points/time you select intelligent item as your legendary item ability (after the first) and apply the special ability that grants to spellcasting. So, at tier 6 you could have a maximum of 25 spell levels if you spent all 6 of your legendary item abilities on intelligent item. That's still no joke (its enough to have a 5th level spell 1/day plus a 4th, 3rd, 2nd, and 1st level spell that are each usable 3/day) but that does mean you would get no other legendary abilities at all (except the free base abilities).
“ When a mythic creature creates a legendary item (using the legendary item universal path ability, the item can have up to three additional abilities, but no more than the number of tiers possessed by the creature bonded to it.
This maximum increases to six if the bonded creature selects the legendary item universal path ability twice, and then to 10 if the bonded creature selects the ability three times (again, the maximum cannot exceed the bonded creature’s number of tiers). These abilities are added at the rate of one per day.
Once selected, these abilities cannot be changed.
If a mythic creature bonds to an existing legendary item, it can use a number of the item’s existing abilities equal to its tier, but cannot add abilities unless it possesses the legendary item universal path ability (subject to the limitations of that ability).”
So by my reading at tier 3 if you take this option it can have 3 abilities. So take spellcasting 3 times. Then at 6 take this again and the abilities increases to 6.
If one were to pick a creature that by default has some kind of weapon, would they get that weapon for free?
And, completely unrelated, would a lich deduct the cost of making a phylactery from their starting cash? (Edit: wait, that would actually cost more than the starting cash, so that wouldn't really work...)
Ahh, a fellow Tien? I am an Oni-hunter, myself.
So by my reading at tier 3 if you take this option it can have 3 abilities. So take spellcasting 3 times. Then at 6 take this again and the abilities increases to 6.
Spellcasting isn’t a separate power, it’s one of the special abilities for an intelligent item (which you add by taking the intelligent item power multiple times); that’s why it’s italicized instead of bolded on the powers list. So, if you want to maximize the item’s casting you would spend all 6 powers on intelligent item (and have some pretty decent stats to show for it), but the first time you take that it doesn’t grant any special abilities, so you’d only get spellcasting 5 times.
Does Eldritch Heritage/Mythic Eldritch Heritage grant the Arcana as well, or just the other abilities? I've seen some table variance on that
We're slightly too early for WW2 without time travel shenanigans, WW1 was only 8 years ago. 6, I think, technically sonce it ended, judging from the date of Rasputin's death.
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You do not get the weapons and armor of a stat block for free unless it's something related to their abilities. Like a Legion Archon's Flames of Faith.
Eldritch Heritage doesn't give the Arcana. But Mythic does.
... Now I want to see soviet sniper lady, that just sounds like silly fun.
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Call me crazy, but I think I'm actually playing a human.
A mutant, advanced human, yeah... But still a human :p
It goes well with the story I had in mind and the character I created some time ago, which is a homage to a deceased famous performer and humourist. I just can't play and Bard a leave this character beside.
So, would you allow a reskin of Master Performer/Grand Master Performer? Or maybe allow that the faction requirement is integrated in the story? Don't feel pressed to, if they aren't available, a Bard has many other things to pick from and not that many feat slots anyway.
I'll allow Master Performer/Grand Master Performer, just include the requirements in the backstory.
I'm still working! Getting closer though...
You cannot, for any reason, gain additional attacks at their highest attack bonus from more than one source, no matter how many such abilities are in effect. (Example: haste, champion’s strike abilities, etc.)
While working on my sheet, reading this here, Rapid Shot originally gives you another attack, but -2, allowing it in this case to stack with haste.
For the purposes of Mythic Rapid Shot, however- if I negate the -2 do they still stack? Or do I just need to select the option to take another attack at -2 in order for it to work?
I have a profile created, but I'm still working on copying things over from the Google Docs I've been working in. :D
Alright, another thing: Are we using Skill Unlocks?
You cannot, for any reason, gain additional attacks at their highest attack bonus from more than one source, no matter how many such abilities are in effect. (Example: haste, champion’s strike abilities, etc.)While working on my sheet, reading this here, Rapid Shot originally gives you another attack, but -2, allowing it in this case to stack with haste.
For the purposes of Mythic Rapid Shot, however- if I negate the -2 do they still stack? Or do I just need to select the option to take another attack at -2 in order for it to work?
I'll let them stack in this specific instance.
Also yeah sure we'll use Skill Unlocks.
How do you pick only 6 path ability? There's so many good ones, lol.
Hello Comrades, here I am. A most charming mysterious gun afficionado, firearms are legitimately a charming girls best friend!
At least my background is, in part *wink*
The actual crunch may take a bit.
Glory to Shamira, Death to tentacles!
Anyone making Hentai jokes will see what he/she/it gets from it.
Probably a shot in the family jewels with my CHA to damage.
(mysterious stranger with 32 CHA should be fun, 36 with minimal items).
https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/gunslinger/archetypes/paizo-g unslinger-archetypes/mysterious-stranger
I am quite certain that most of my allies will appreciate my sardonic wit.
Both effective and in character, I also feel compelled to pick every mythic ability with the word "sniper" in it.
I realized her background was getting to be a bit of a novel so I cut it short, but it's here in this profile now. I still need to copy stats over, but I can do that Monday.
OK, I suspect my build will be far from optimal, at least in combat...but I'll have some interesting utility, and the concept is too fun to pass up!
I plan to apply as a Tsukumogami named Itazura. She is a several hundred year old wagon (large enough to seat six inside) that was owned by several generations of traveling potion-makers. Over time, the wagon formed an amalgam with the kami, Itazura, that now animates it, and continues to create potions and extracts inside itself.
Here's a reference pic of what I'll look like.
Mechanically, I'll be a Huge Animated Object with the Tsukumogami template (7 HD, CR 9) + 5 levels of Investigator. I'll have the ability to shrink from Huge to Tiny size (but nothing in between), turn invisible, and fly at will. Investigator will give me some extracts to share, trapfinding, and lots of skills...as befitting a living wagon that's been used by alchemists and investigators for generations.
DM, do you have a sense of when you'll close recruitment? And any guidance as to what you want in terms of background?
Also, is there a way to get the Mythic Spell version of At-Will SLAs? (I'm thinking Fly and/or Invisibility.)
I see we have a few other possible PCs who might be Tien. If we're selected, I'm open to modifying backstories to interweave knowing one another.
Well, here is Britta. I still need to add mythic levels and equipment. I'll, hopefully, wrap all that up tonight.
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Can't use items that give enhancement bonuses to stats...
(mysterious stranger with 32 CHA should be fun, 36 with minimal items).
Oh right, forgot about automated progression there.
Are we considered level 14 or class level or purposes of automatic bonus progression?
Quick question while I debate whether to submit a ghaele cleric 1 or whether to buck the trend and offer up a human.
Many celestials (and other monsters, but particularly celestials) have a magic weapon as part of their base statblock. Ghaele, for example, wield a +2 holy greatsword by default, if you summon one with SMIX, it comes with that item.
(Presumably, under ABP, a plain holy greatsword, with the +2 subsumed by the automatic bonus)
Anyway, would I start with that item separately from items that are paid for with character wealth (on the basis that it's part of the monster's stat block and part of the reason it's CR 13) or count it against character wealth?
You do not get the weapons and armor of a stat block for free unless it's something related to their abilities. Like a Legion Archon's Flames of Faith.
Eldritch Heritage doesn't give the Arcana. But Mythic does.
... Now I want to see soviet sniper lady, that just sounds like silly fun.
He’s answered that one already, Coriat. Just so you don’t sit around and wait for the answer all day.
Slowly getting there, but oh boy that will need a self audit tomorow.
When you do the skill points, and the recognice you forgot to take armor restriction into account.
A cool thing is, due to the thematically fitting trait "irrepressible" I can use CHA instead of WIS for will saves vs Charm and Compulsion.
My char rocks a pretty ridiculous will save vs charm and compulsion (35 if I didnt miscount) and can share that with people via profane gift of recovery.
Just once per day (and character, who has to be humanoid), but pretty good.
Of course, your friendly neighbourhood Succubus would never possibly abuse this! All claims to that effect are just baseless inferno-capitalist propaganda of the forces of reaction!
Also, I can only do 1 profance pact per day, so I need to sensually reeducate I mean pact the most weak willed first! Yes, nothing cunning intended with it, all in favor of efficiency and the greater good of all non tentacle kind!
Can't use items that give enhancement bonuses to stats...
(mysterious stranger with 32 CHA should be fun, 36 with minimal items).
Oh right, forgot about automated progression there.
Are we considered level 14 or class level or purposes of automatic bonus progression?
Personally I'd lean toward class level, not "character level" for ABD. People with templates and monster HD already get such huge stat boosts over people with 14 class levels without it.
It usually ends up being somewhat of an issue in these mixed "monsters and men" recruitments. People who are templated out the gills or with monster HD are so much stronger (in terms of raw attribute scores etc.) than PCs with just class levels it becomes impossible to balance.
I know I was considering it class level for my build.