
Castor the rat |

Just give me time.....
Speaking of time how is this campaign working hit points? Roll, take average, grovel/bribe Tark?
Beorn Since I was already stepping on Margar's toes I thought I would take a turn on your divine tootsies and make the monkey a cunning linguist. Currently running at +10 with 2 ranks and a trait. I see forgery in the future.

Pollux |

Also in my headcanon meraxilar and caldazar disappear under mysterious circumstances after a brutal knife fight on a burning rooftop. The building collapsed no bodies were found.
I wonder who started that fire......

Beorn the Divine |

TarkXT wrote:Also in my headcanon meraxilar and caldazar disappear under mysterious circumstances after a brutal knife fight on a burning rooftop. The building collapsed no bodies were found.I wonder who started that fire......
It's been always burning since the worlds been turning..

Castor the rat |

He's got a rat. He'll be fine.
I don't think "Fine" is a word that easily applies to Pollux.
Seriously though lower to hit and significantly lower AC than an ordinary rat much less my incomparable self.I wonder If I have erred in delaying the cheesetastic slumber Hex.

Castor the rat |

I was operating on a New Pollux basis but if you find Old Pollux new town more amusing then I say go for it.
I'll just swap Child of K for Urban sleuth (bells) and say that P left Westcrown under a cloud (city was burning, no one could prove anything). Pollux is missing a few days/weeks/months/levels but popped up in Kintaro just about as alive as usual. A bit of scrounging/mending/theft/mugging answered for gear and here they are practically perfect in every way.
Truthfully I am leaning towards old Pollux now that it is on the table.
Unless you want to do a 'We don't go to Westcrown' subplot Pollux can just chalk the changes to just another kick in the teeth from a hostile and unreasoning universe.
So really I'm tossing this one to you Tark. Anything to help stave off GM burnout. Which Pollux would you find more amusing?

Castor the rat |

Also I have a question.
In the player guide, pg 13 under the sleuth trait, it says the Silver Ravens vanished after the revolution. However on pg 16 it says the SR leaders have not been heard from in weeks.
I am assuming the revolution was more than a few weeks ago so we have a conflict.
Did the order of the Rack get to the player's guide?

Malgar the Mad |

Hey everyone,
It took a bit longer to read up and decide what to do, but I think I'll stick with Malgar for now, and despite a new lockdown in the Netherlands things are reasonably stable on the workload.
For advancing Malgar, I had this idea of taking at least one vigilante level for him, so that he'd have a 'social disguise' of a respectable figure he could use to go out and still be useful. Though, that would require a bit of rewiring of his brain to work narritively.
I had this idea lingering in my head to make Robin a shapeshifting Mesmerist, and that a chance meeting between real robin and Malgar would have her alter his mind to where he'd be at least somewhat sane, more akin to his older self. His social guise would be an Abadaran dwarf merchant while his vigilante side would be real Malgar.
My alternative to doing this would be to have Malgar die and play Mesmerist Robin, who'd arrive too late to save him. Though, for that angle I'd have to think of where she's been, and what race or features would allow her to change shape a lot, so that Malgar thinking Robin could be everyone was actually covered by her abilities.
What do y'all think?

TarkXT |

I like the idea of continuity and subtle tie ins. Pollux would not have lasted long on a post AP westcrown what with its wary hope and economic revival. Hed be longing to have the shadowbeasts back for entertainment. Plus the idea that his patron likes to make Pollux's life a living hell until he moves on to create chaos in other place is another idea that appeals. So if youre up for it that would be amusing to me.

TarkXT |

Also I have a question.
In the player guide, pg 13 under the sleuth trait, it says the Silver Ravens vanished after the revolution. However on pg 16 it says the SR leaders have not been heard from in weeks.
I am assuming the revolution was more than a few weeks ago so we have a conflict.
Did the order of the Rack get to the player's guide?
Call it bad editing. The silver ravens havent existed for nearly a century.

Castor the rat |

Hey everyone,
... and what race or features would allow her to change shape a lot, so that Malgar thinking Robin could be everyone was actually covered by her abilities.What do y'all think?
Disguise and Alter Self are both on the Mesmerist spell list.
Robin could have been using a wand of either and it just burned out.I have no solid opinion on the other questions. I have never seen a Vigilante or a Mesmerist in play so I have nothing there. Story wise I can see either "no personal space" Robin or Zorro with a better beard blending well with the group. For what it's worth the Mesmerist is a solid support class while Malgar the masked would be more of a stand up and kill things type. Esp if we are talking the full bab avenger vigilante.
On further review the mesmer steps HARD into the Witch's support through debuffing shtick but then I'm steeping HARD into your madness so I can't complain about the chocolate in my peanut butter.
Now excuse me while I drool over the mesmerist's spell list.
Rabbits, stare is specifically called out NOT to stack with Evil Eye.
*shakes tiny fist at a laughing god*

Castor the rat |

I like the idea of continuity and subtle tie ins. Pollux would not have lasted long on a post AP westcrown what with its wary hope and economic revival. Hed be longing to have the shadowbeasts back for entertainment. Plus the idea that his patron likes to make Pollux's life a living hell until he moves on to create chaos in other place is another idea that appeals. So if youre up for it that would be amusing to me.
Done and dusted. Old Pollux it is.
Swapping traits, tossing the free noble gear and re-writing background ASAP.
How much time has passed since the Cal/Merax title bout? And do I need to explain/reference the lost levels?

Castor the rat |

Hey all could I get a quick run down on how the reel group is set up?
Focus, officers all that technical stuff.
Pollux might work as spymaster for the monkey's Int but there are other places.
I am still trying to get my head around Pollux working a desk job. Or maybe more with this chair, or this one?
I think I have the office decor down though.

Tal Bernard Mainz |

I always thought that Tal was the only sane one of the group. Good news is he wasn’t delusional. Bad news is everyone else was.
If Tal survives the current group he will be more than happy to track down Pollux again to keep him on the straight and narrow. Luckily Variel isnt as altruistic.

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Rebel sheet is the third page of the spreadsheet in the profile link. Officially we have a recruiter spot open as everything else is filled…
Not sure how this is going to turn out if you fill that role. I will love to be in the room though as you hex charm your way to more supporters.

Castor the rat |

I always thought that Tal was the only sane one of the group. Good news is he wasn’t delusional. Bad news is everyone else was.
If Tal survives the current group he will be more than happy to track down Pollux again to keep him on the straight and narrow. Luckily Variel isnt as altruistic.
Tal was the sane one. One. The tin man walked a lonely road. How is the new crew surviving?

Castor the rat |

Rebel sheet is the third page of the spreadsheet in the profile link. Officially we have a recruiter spot open as everything else is filled…
Not sure how this is going to turn out if you fill that role. I will love to be in the room though as you hex charm your way to more supporters.
Eh, the Monkey can't do toooooo much damage as a recruiter. At least on paper. You will have to wait at least one level to see the charm hex in action though. The next ones under consideration are Misfortune and Charm. Likely Charm at 3rd and then 4th for the Evil Eye Misfortune Cackle combo.

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Still alive and kicking. It lacks the flair though that it once had. Of course that could be because we are in a dungeon crawl rather than rp mode at the moment

Castor the rat |

I am really conflicted about not taking Misfortune as an extra Hex at 1st.
The extra Traits I took instead make UMD and Linguistics viable. Ultimately the monkey will be an expert in these skills given the Witch's int addiction.
But RIGHT NOW the Evil Eye/Misfortune/Cackle combo would help Pollux pull his weight in a fight. Something I am not sure he can do right now. Evil Eye is a solid workhorse. Dropping AC, Saves, etc by 2 pretty much at will is very effective support but it takes Misfortune to really make the opposition feel like old cheese.
I think the skill option is more effective in RP and may be more useful than I am giving it credit for given the social/intrigue focus of the AP.
Witches like Wizards are on the slow bubble power-wise but I do not want to drag the party if I don't have to.
Does anyone share this concern?

Castor the rat |

Yes that could work.
Focus on saves if we have a major target to shut down or on ac/to hit if we are dealing with mooks.
P.S.
I am deeply offended that Hideous Laughter is not on the Witch list.
I am even more deeply offended by how horrible a spell Adhesive Spittle is. Two standard actions and a 15' range for a ref save debuf. The concept is great, the name is awesome but the execution is just sad.
Casters just don't get nice things.

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Merry Christmas and happy holidays all. Sorry for the absence but family and work have been keeping me busy this week and into next. I will still jump on the boards though to keep up to date. should slow down for me by the 5th.

Malgar the Mad |

Hey everyone,
My apologies for the silence over the holidays. I've thought things over and I think I'll withdraw from the campaign for now. I can't get Malgar or Robin to really work out the way I'd want them too, and in general I've been very busy in real life with the COVID treatements and stretched too thin across my current PBP's with my currently available time. I could half-ass it, but that feels disingenuous to everyone here. Malgar can get his just horrible deserts at the hands of the novice executioner after gifting the cloak of elvenkind (stealth +5) to Tiny.
Thank you all for your time and patience, and have a great game.
Until we meet again!

Castor the rat |

Sorry to see you go Madman but understood. I've had to draw back myself for worse reasons. The pandemic is a beast, best of luck to you and to one of my favorite cities.
Though just between you, me, and this mouse.. Wait a minute *sickening crunch/squeak* As I was saying, just between you and me if you feel Me and the Monkey are pushing you out then I will drop this game/character in less than a heartbeat. Seriously. This is your gig. The Monkey makes a rotten Yoko. The hair is ok but he'll never manage the clothes.

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Good luck Malgar and I understand completely about the COVID stress right now.

Tiny Litsy |

Noooo! Don't die! Just vanish into the night and become BatMalgar!
But then he'd need a Robin- oh. I see what you did there.
Sorry to see you go, Malgar, but I understand you need some rest. Take care!

Castor the rat |

Ouch!
Stay safe as you can Tark.
Well I was thinking that since the group in looking into "The murder in the Nursery" (Col.Mustard, in the Nursery, with Fascism) they could stumble across the Monkey who is poking at the case out of boredom/professional curiosity. P would be living/dossing in the Nursery because what other neighborhood would he fetch up in. He could provide a may for the group to gain acceptance in the Nursery as Pollux is known in the neighborhood. The monkey may not be liked but anyone with access to Mending/Resistance/Guidance/Det Poison would be useful in a ghetto under a soft lockdown.
It is strange thinking of Pollux as a pseudo face/guide but Strange bedfellows and all that...
Very open to other ideas but that was what jumped out at me.

Castor the rat |

Don't read class guides for a class you want to play.
Apparently I am dammed for all time for choosing the bottom tier Insanity patron and cursed onto the third generation for choosing anything other than an initiative pumping familiar.
Mind you the guides also tend to frown on the Fortune hex for reasons that I do not understand. I think the guide writers may be discounting the opinions of the witch's party members.
I hope you guys were not looking for a min maxer cause monkey pretty much lives in a small room under that curve.

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Guides are overdone and only out there for trying to maximize a character to do everything. Have fun and let a character grow organically and it will always work out in the end just not as powerful.

Tiny Litsy |

As the GM on my favourite Pathfinder podcast once (more or less) put it, "it makes no sense to play RPGs to win- ultimately all it takes is for the DM to click his fingers and throw a dragon in to TPK. You play to tell good stories, not to max out characters."
And hey, it's always possible to rebuild a character later on if they really start to struggle mechanically! It'll be easier to do than rework their entire personality.

Castor the rat |

Well said all. I actually find the min-maxing guides amusing for the reason Tiny's podcast mentioned. A feeble attempt by the powerless wrapping themselves in faint illusion of control in the face of an amused god. Or something more Castor-like, its early. Need more coffee and art.
The Witch is a strange frame to build on though. No defenses to speak of but it works best when targets are within charge range. Not to mention the constant tension between doing something cool and the gravity well of effectiveness that is Misfortune - Slumber. I suppose this power vs. cool tug-a-war is present in all classes. It just seems more pronounced in the Witch.
Anyway just me babbling until something gets set on fire.

Tiny Litsy |

Well said all. I actually find the min-maxing guides amusing for the reason Tiny's podcast mentioned. A feeble attempt by the powerless wrapping themselves in faint illusion of control in the face of an amused god. Or something more Castor-like, its early. Need more coffee and art.
The Witch is a strange frame to build on though. No defenses to speak of but it works best when targets are within charge range. Not to mention the constant tension between doing something cool and the gravity well of effectiveness that is Misfortune - Slumber. I suppose this power vs. cool tug-a-war is present in all classes. It just seems more pronounced in the Witch.
Anyway just me babbling until something gets set on fire.
Ah, but you speak of the powerless as if they didn't have the most dreaded power of all...
The one to completely derail the campaign off its intended track! *evil cackle*
Same podcast had one lovingly crafted BBEG, with lots of cool effects that were supposed to go off as the combat went on, be defeated in a single round by a well-placed sneak attack that crit'd.
Hours of work going down the drain...
I really like rogues.

Borgan, the Unfallen |
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I have built several characters just to be as strange or whacky as they could be. I loved playing those characters. Though when I played a character just to be a powerhouse, I lost interest quite quickly.
A favourite trope of mine are the characters that don't quite look like what they are. A bulky rogue in full-plate armour, a strong man or woman with a strength of 16 or higher that turns out to be a wizard.
Or just something crazy like a goblin that tries to be a chef and is convinced he is a prophet of a tentacled god in the sky.
+1 on the rogue comment Litsy