
Leonard Giles Neithan |

Well well well.
I've sucesfully returned to college, but unfortunately left my computer charger on the bus that I took from the airport. I ordered a new one already, it should get here Tuesday, that's two days from now.
I will thus be unlikely to post tomorrow or the following morning.

GM Mort |

In case anyone is feeling Murderhoboish, killing the animated dream does not end the spell effect. It will run its 12 round duration as per normal.

Vincent Arazeiros |

Murderhobo? Is the dream fleeing? I assumed we would need to kill it whether it ended the confusion or not.

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My Chinese zodiac sign says I'm gentle, quiet, elegant, quick, skillful, kind and patient and particularly responsible. However, I may be superficial, stubborn, melancholy and overly discreet.
The stubborn part, I get. But gentle, quiet, elegant and patient?!

Vincent Arazeiros |

Why is there not a questing beast in pathfinder those things are awesome.

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In the Nightside series by Simon R. Green, the questing beast was slain by some joker with a rifle from 400 yards away. Poor critter didnt even stand a chance.

GM Mort |

I'm not sure if I interpreted your actions correctly but at the end of the day, due to 60ft Darkvision range, it would need to be within 60 ft of you in order to phantasmal killer, which either way puts you in charge range of it.

GM Mort |

Leonard's dead. He starts at 57 hp - backlash + confusion and hitting self =9 dmg.
On the crit claw he was at 1 hp.
The 65 hp is only in Dreamlands with the Viscount belt.

GM Mort |

Vincent - technically you have one round after the dream leaves, before Claude finishes off Leonard but you're at least 60ft away from the boat. Since mirror image kicked in to save Leonard's arse you probably have enough time. Leonard is at 33 hp. Without mirror image he'd be dead.
Let me calculate how far exactly. Yeah about 110 ft away from the boat and 20 ft in the air.

Vincent Arazeiros |

Oh I didn't see this. Not sure Vincent would go back right away as he has nothing to help anyone except healing them and doesn't know what's going on in there.
I guess he could turn back but he'd probably think the dream is still around somewhere.

GM Mort |

Up to you. You can chase dreams if you like. Whether you catch them or not is a different story.
It's a rather amused animated dream now.

GM Mort |

We'll say that the round Howard babbled incoherently, the boat moved fast enough that the shield companion broke, so Howard at this point has taken 61 pts of damage, 5 from backlash, 6 from Claude headbutt in the wall.

GM Mort |

Probably after Vincent takes care of the brawl on the boat, I'll just roll the confusion for all of Howard's stuff since he's in no danger, currently of killing himself and conclude this encounter.

GM Mort |

Vincent for PA, you have BAB +6,so for natural weapons which are secondary , it's - 2 attack, +2 dmg.
At 0 BAB, PA is -1,+2
At 4 BAB, PA is -2,+4

Vincent Arazeiros |

Derp. Was using my level not Bab. Last few chars with pa were fighters lol.
I vote sleep and no dreamlands today. Recover expended resources.

GM Mort |

Feel free to open the spoiler for your sleep, Vincent =) I hash a surprise for you.
Also, Vincent, you're fatigued for the next dream quest.

GM Mort |

After a days of rest...this would be the status:
Seamus - 57/59
Claude - full
Howard - Full
Leonard - 42/57
Vincent - 45/72
Please retcon whatever healing/charges you use before the next dream quest.

GM Mort |

Howard - shield companion gives +1 deflection bonus to AC and +1 to its saves. You need to declare if it's on or off. If it's on, Claude's will is a +7.

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Oh right.
I completely forgot about that - I was focused on the 'half damage' aspect of it ;-)
Yes, it is currently on.

GM Mort |

Please Howard. Else I will get a second person yelling at me, Oi! Those buffs are hour/level, why aren't they on?
I do try my best to be fair to everyone, you know.
Look on the bright side, had it not been for the heightened awareness being declared up, the ritual would have failed again, tossing out another animated dream...actually maybe this time I'd pop two. Since it said whether you get an animated dream, an animated dream with advanced template, or two animated dreams, its up to GM discretion.
The reason why you were taking so much damage on the last animated dream was because of the shield companion passing half of Claude's damage taken to you, before distance broke the spell.

evandariel |

Questions.
I am fatigued? Am I able to recover extracts? Also, the inspiration says it refills EACH DAY, typically (not always) after a restful sleep. Not sure why it would not refill, it doesn't say it requires it unlike some abilities/casters.
Do I think the animated dream was responsibl? I know enough Spellcraft to know someone had to target me with it.
And why is there a new studying if we didn't actually do the last round? Are we considered to fail that mission? Or are we just studying the next one ahead of time?
And finally, is there a rush? If I woke up jacked up wouldn't I just recommend we wait a day before proceeding to dreamlands? I assume whatever it is isn't the nightmare curse from the dream since it has a different effect. But it does have a nightmare SLA. I don't think I'd have volunteered to do a ritual if I think there's an enemy around somewhere while we are sleeping.

GM Mort |

Studying ahead of time. You still have to do them all eventually.
Must as well get something done, no? You can have spellcraft - but you never saw that guy casting. So there's no way that you could tell. Say if he was in a room chanting, yes you would know. Unfortunately, SLAs do NOT even have any verbal components, so the side effect is that if you don't see it, you can't ID it.
The problem with nightmare is that its range is UNLIMITED. So it could literally be ANYWHERE in Golarion. If you don't want to do it, you can don't bother about doing any dream quests for the rest of the AP.

GM Mort |

I will read it as inspiration refills after a restful sleep. Otherwise essentially it's a pretty useless spell on non arcane casters.
You get your extracts because there's nothing saying that if you don't rest, you can't prepare your extracts. So extracts replenish as per normal.
I was hoping you'd stay up in time to tell Howard your little problem and make decisions about it, that's why I even posted in discussion thread, telling you to open the spoilers.
Fatigue isnt even the end of the world. You could have plopped an extract of lesser restoration and called it a day.

Vincent Arazeiros |

Right but I responded as soon as I woke up. Lol. We are already aboard so can't just swap extracts mid combat or I'd put lesser restore.
Also, I can get extracts because there's nothing saying I need rest then I should get inspiration as there's nothing saying you have to rest, just when it typically refills. It refills each day. It doesn't say there is an occasion where it doesn't refill. That's RAW. Nuking inspiration to make nightmare work better on noncasters is ridiculous.
And we ID the dream so we know it has the nightmare SLA even if we don't know if it cast it or not.
And finally if I didn't bother doing dream quests who would do the ritual? Hmm? I didn't say anything about that I specifically asked why is there a rush since we still have weeks of travel, why do we not just wait a day?

GM Mort |

An investigator’s inspiration pool refreshes each day, typically after he gets a restful night’s sleep.
If it was not dependent on sleep they'd just put he gets it back the next morning or set another condition:
I. E A divine spellcaster chooses and prepares spells ahead of time, but unlike a wizard, does not require a period of rest to prepare spells. Instead, the character chooses a particular time of day to pray and receive spells.
That's OK, I don't mind if the ritual and the dream quests are not done, we can bring you to the end of this book since you don't feel it's important =) You'll just be 2 levels behind =) I've already got book 4 prepped anyway.
If I felt it would hamper your ability to finish this dream quest while fatigued I would have let you wait a day. As I see - the result with or without fatigue would still be the same.
Alternatively just retcon that you drank an extract of lesser restoration after you woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. Feel free.

evandariel |

If it was dependent on sleep it would sound like this: "He must choose and prepare his spells ahead of time by getting 8 hours of sleep and spending 1 hour studying his spellbook."
'Typically' does not mean 'only'
If they wanted what you said, it would say that it refills each day after a restful sleep, or after 8hrs of sleep, or only after restful sleep.
"An investigator’s inspiration pool refreshes each day, only after he gets a restful night’s sleep. Otherwise the pool does not refresh."
That's not what it says. It's only indicating time of day. What if I slept twice a day? It only refills once a day, typically after I sleep. Like cleric spells, who can choose dusk or Dawn, but typically it is Dawn.

GM Mort |

If time of the day, then they would not have tied it to restful sleep. They'd just say it refreshes once every 24 hours etc.
Sure they could have tied it harder, but that's devs for you. They can be unclear about wordings.
Typically by english definition means most of the time.

Vincent Arazeiros |

You don't mind if the dream quests are not done? That's great. Who even mentioned skipping them, aside from you?
Yes and typically in English also does not mean all of the time. Nothing in the description requires restful sleep, so it doesn't.

GM Mort |

I don't think I'd have volunteered to do a ritual if I think there's an enemy around somewhere while we are sleeping.
You said it yourself - you do not wish to do the ritual as long as you're being bothered by it, so since it could be anywhere in Golarion, and keep pesking you, you won't be able to do the ritual at all.
That's what your interpretation of how the inspiration pool is refreshed, and we could continue arguing, but it would get no where, since I view it one way you view it the other.
You get X, mostly after Y occurs. You decide to just ignore the phase mostly after Y occurs.

Vincent Arazeiros |

Mostly does not mean exclusively. Ok how about this: if it typically refreshes after a restful night sleep, when else does it refresh? Since it's not always after a restful night sleep. Answer: morning.
Yeah, what moron is going to volunteer to go into a coma with enemies nearby? A soon to be dead one.

GM Mort |

Here are the blueprints for investigator
**OFFICIAL UPDATES**
The following updates apply to the Investigator.
• Add Heal to the list of investigator class skills.
• The Inspiration points gained from the Inspiration class feature refresh once per day after resting.

GM Mort |

Nightmare has no range, so since you have ranks in spellcraft you can tell that it could bugger you from anywhere. And really, what's call of cthulhu if you aren't buggered by forces from beyond?

GM Mort |

Leonard - you may wish to retcon haste,or Howard invisibility. Reason being that by the time haste is cast, Vincent is invisible and Leonard does not have see invisibility, so he cannot target Vincent.
Leonard can target himself even though he is invisible.
Howard will also not be included in the haste spell as he is invisible, though I dont think he cares about that one.

Vincent Arazeiros |

I have no issue with the nightmare stuff taking place...

GM Mort |

The captain ain't on deck yet. You need to deal with his underlings first!
Haste has rounds/level duration, so Ya the countdown timer starts sooner if Leonard uses haste first. I don't mind that either, though.

Leonard Giles Neithan |

Using haste first sounds like a good idea to me. It's not going to last longer than a fight anyway, and it probably will last for the whole fight regardless.
We could sneak around their ship and find the hat, but these 8 fellows should be easy enough to deal with.

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I’m not in the mood to number crunch what happens after Vincent monstrous physiques III(deathsnatcher form), uses power attack, mixing both natural and manufactured weapons(one claw is holding a rapier), including bard song, haste, heroism, mutagen, fatigue and studied target. So yeah I don’t feel up to botting. The sheer amount of maths looks like it’s going to give me a headache.
If any of you want to help me number crunch, I can run Vincent’s turn.
Otherwise we can just sit here and munch popcorn.

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*takes out some virtual popcorn to share while bored, and waiting...*

Vincent Arazeiros |

Bleeep. I just woke up I posted all except forgot fatigue penalty, so -1 to rapier dmg and -1 to attacks.
I did warn you guys at the beginning that I am completely opposite on activity :P