Xanya Zellor |
@Simon: The feedback I got on my sheet was mostly to show calculation for everything. You have quite a few things where you just show the final values (skills, eidolon). Might want to fix up that so it's less work for CaveToad and you after his feedback. I also didn't see your initiative listed anywhere.
Am I the only one that thinks it's cool/useful to organize everything into a spreadsheet :/? If people fill out their skills/spells it'll be much easier to get an overview over what we got and what things it'll be useful to pick up in the future.
CaveToad |
Ok reviews for all characters have gone out. Many of you have already responded and adjusted or tweaked as needed, and are marked as passed. If you are changing something while we are still in Trial Phase, send me an email, so I can note it. Once we end Trial phase, changes can no longer be made without retraining. Some of you have replied but are still working on some changes or tweaks, so haven't been marked passed yet. I have the next adventure piece planned, and also working on some frameworks for a more solid ruleset for your special items, that will let you plan a little better.
Just a note about the flow. For now we are still in trial, and I am keeping the tables on roughly the same timeline due to proximity and potential for immediate(ish) interaction as well as some timed events. Once the groups split apart more and follow their own paths, it will be more free flow and I won't keep everyone on the same event timeline. This is also why I want to make sure all characters pass review before I move the timeline forward, despite some tables all passed or almost there.
This post will be cross-posted to the various tables, so sorry for the spam if you read in more than one place. I would like the various tables to check in with the master thread as well, just to keep track of overall changes.
In addition, I will be camping from Friday June 26 through Thurs July 2nd. The last you may hear from me would be Friday morning the 26th and not until probably the evening of July 2nd when I return. The camp ground is remote, and cell reception is unreliable at best, and I don't feel I can adequately GM from a phone in the wilderness, so I will suspend play during that time, or if possible, I will try to get the groups to a point where you can do things that don't require me as much. Without revealing too much about what lies in store now, I will have more information as we get closer.
Simon Saito |
Have fun camping!
I miss being able to go camping often. I might see if I can go some time this Summer. I actually work in a park with a camp ground, so I could just walk to work. XD
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Finished adjustments per CaveToad's instruction.
Once I can figure out how to log in to my mail in this browser, I'll add my stuff to the spreadsheet. :)
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Quassine, would you and everyone else prefer to skip introductions? I feel like now is a good time to take our time and talk in character, since we won't be moving on to stuff for a bit. :)
Anyways, if we do just skip to the morning, Simon will slip in between Xanya and someone and take morning watch for the same reason Xanya is. :)
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So many smile faces...
Xanya Zellor |
Xanya is taking morning duty to avoid taking con damage. Is that your reason as well? ;) Will be happy to have Simon join her on morning duty though. We can start playing that?
Simon Saito |
But she's also doing it to summon her Eidolon, as Simon is. :P
I'd like to see if we do introductions first, to simplify a little. :)
Xanya Zellor |
So are no one going to respond to Simon's introduction? Did everything get too awkward after the last few posts? Please don't hesitate to tell how you feel. If you have issues with the way things are it's better to clear the up while it's still possible to switch between groups... Since he addressed Xanya by name I do feel like it's appropriateAs for her to respond...
Simon Saito |
I'd rather tone down my character than have to switch people out if that's the problem.
I can work with y'all if anyone is uncomfortable. We're here to have fun, so if anything I do gets in the way of that, don't hesitate to tell me. :)
Quassine Alator |
Simon when did you walk up into camp? Maybe that would help in who first responds to his approach.
Xanya Zellor |
I had planned on it being maybe an hour or so into Eleanor's watch.
Uh, I was thinking we were all sleeping at that point. Not sure how long the others were thinking to cuddle, but spending over an hour means we need to sleep an hour more.
Xanya Zellor |
So is it morning? If so we can play out everyone getting up etc?
Kiki Bitterdew |
I will switch my Godwin item from a rapier to a wakazashi and switch from Serpent Druid to normal Druid(as there is sadly no spider druid) (probably with weather(seasons) domain, but I am opent to suggestions for the nature bond)
Xanya Zellor |
So are no one going to respond to Simon IC? It would be nice to introduce him before we play out the morning...
Xanya Zellor |
Really? Wow, I am so sad about that :'( I was really looking forward to playing with you.
Cardau |
After consultation via PM with Xanya, I'd like to switch my feats.
Out:
Improved Unarmed Strike
Domain Strike
Sorcerous Strike
Still Spell
In:
Combat Casting
Noble Scion (Scion of War)
Extra Revelations (Misfortune)
Magical Tail
Also, I think I've corrected all the issues you mentioned your feedback.
Xanya Zellor |
@Kiki: Desert and Plains domain both look pretty useful, but sadly neither is thematicallly fitting very well. The problem with weather domain is that the sneak attack most of us have is negated by most of the spells and the bursts of the domainpowers simply aren't as useful with the high powered gestalt. The debuff of the first level power is decent, but the 8th level power is hurt by your low wisdom score. Ideally you find a domain with mostly some form of touch attacks, buffs or other things requiring no save. The feather subdomain of animal is another decent one (at the cost of a feat you get both a companion and a domain, once we reach level 4. The mountain domain's 8th level power is quite cool when combined with your abilities to get on top of your enemies, though sadly the save is quite low. Hope this helped, sadly no choice seems to fit your character perfectly within the standard druid domains.
Simon Saito |
I set Simon up with a less guess-y height and weight using the 3.5 Draconomicon and making him a little smaller than a Medium Silver Dragon. :)
Kiki Bitterdew |
CaveToad wants to keep the tables to 5 players so I've been bumped to the hypothetical table 7. You were too busy groping each other to notice. :P
Groping is important :P , sad to see you go :(
@Xanya: I think panther domain fits rather well (hunter in Darkness), the first domain power is ok (scent and +30 ft darkvision) the second is rather usefull(+2 stealth and init per 4 druid levels when in darkness(magical or normal)) and the spells are usefull aswell
Xanya Zellor |
Eleanor Sibyl wrote:CaveToad wants to keep the tables to 5 players so I've been bumped to the hypothetical table 7. You were too busy groping each other to notice. :PGroping is important :P , sad to see you go :(
@Xanya: I think panther domain fits rather well (hunter in Darkness), the first domain power is ok (scent and +30 ft darkvision) the second is rather usefull(+2 stealth and init per 4 druid levels when in darkness(magical or normal)) and the spells are usefull aswell
Somehow I overlooked the Panther domain, that looks quite nice actually. Looking over all the options, I actually like your original choice of serpent shaman quite a bit. With 4 attacks in your normal form, how much are you really going to wildshape? The Totem Transformation at least gives you something while retaining your normal form. Normal Druid with Panther domain might be even cooler though.
CaveToad |
CaveToad wants to keep the tables to 5 players so I've been bumped to the hypothetical table 7. You were too busy groping each other to notice. :P
Until a table 7 exists, we will keep you here. But it may work better in the long run for compatibility in terms of what people want out of roleplay.
Xanya Zellor |
I think we should just tone back (read remove) the groping/public displays of affection for now and handle introduction and the like in a more "normal" manner to make sure everyone stays comfortable. Then we can just play out guard/night activities while we wait (or post here). I'll also tone down Xanya's craziness as it might be hard to respond to most of it...
Xanya Zellor |
Cardau and Kiki are you characters up to date with my feedback and complete? Without having a passed status you need to fix them before participating in play moving forward.
I think they announced any changes they made in the thread. Are there still other things that aren't correct besides that?
Xanya Zellor |
Three questions:
1) Am I mounted? I was thinking hugging Cryxial == actually mounting, but I under if you don't see it that way.
2) Did I get to prepeare the extracts I mentioned?
3) Why didn't you just roll initiative to save having to wait for everyone to roll before the first person can move? I find that combat is usually slow enough, this saves a lot of time.
Xanya Zellor |
Ugh, that's an awful roll... My flat footed AC is pretty bad.
Don't suppose you can misfortune a roll without being aware of your surroundings?
Another question, what are the lighting conditions in the current setting? If we are in the forest, it should be normal light, which is reduced to dim light from the darkness, if we are out in the open, I could see it being bright which is reduced to normal.
Xanya Zellor |
Wow Eleanor, i didn't notice you changing to stalker before now. That's pretty cool :)
Xanya Zellor |
So hard to choose what to do. Since Xanya can't charge them alone and I need to roll 16+ to mount up to be able to charge(assuming she is dismounted), I am leaning towards just casting Sound burst. Thinking about it 20 ft move + 10 ft reach might just be enough to get there? Of course it depends on initiative and what they do as well. How many are there. When I read a horde, I am thinking several dozens of individuals. Quite the challenge. Does Xanya even have her weapon out? It's not like she got anywhere to put it down really atm...
Cardau |
After consultation via PM with Xanya, I'd like to switch my feats.
Out:
Improved Unarmed Strike
Domain Strike
Sorcerous Strike
Still SpellIn:
Combat Casting
Noble Scion (Scion of War)
Extra Revelations (Misfortune)
Magical TailAlso, I think I've corrected all the issues you mentioned in your feedback.
I think I have corrected everything. I'll wait for your OK before I post, though.
Xanya Zellor |
Cardau wrote:I think I have corrected everything. I'll wait for your OK before I post, though.After consultation via PM with Xanya, I'd like to switch my feats.
Out:
Improved Unarmed Strike
Domain Strike
Sorcerous Strike
Still SpellIn:
Combat Casting
Noble Scion (Scion of War)
Extra Revelations (Misfortune)
Magical TailAlso, I think I've corrected all the issues you mentioned in your feedback.
Can't you just roll initiative first? Otherwise we'll have to wait much longer... :(
CaveToad |
Three questions:
1) Am I mounted? I was thinking hugging Cryxial == actually mounting, but I under if you don't see it that way.
2) Did I get to prepeare the extracts I mentioned?
3) Why didn't you just roll initiative to save having to wait for everyone to roll before the first person can move? I find that combat is usually slow enough, this saves a lot of time.
1) Come on, you are not mounted, hugging clearly does not equal mounting, particularly how you posted it. If you want to be mounted you have to state that explicitly. Your hug was a hug of greeting.
2) You can easily have your extracts prepared, as they take only a minute each, and you are an hour or more into your watch.3) I did it so people can interact a little bit. I agree it can move things along more quickly, but since I had all day before I could address the actual combat beyond the initial post, I did what I did. Thanks for the input however.
Xanya Zellor |
Sorry :(. So no mounted, but got both of the extracts I wanted to prepare done.
Xanya Zellor |
It's understandable. No one has time for everything. That's the disadvantage of running so many tables :/.
Simon Saito |
Sorry about the unlabeled die roll. It's initiative. I was at work, so I couldn't quite finish that as much as I'd wanted to, because I got customers.
He would've strapped on his Uke first thing in the morning, but he hasn't summoned Aster yet.
Of course, this begs the question: Shouldn't we try talking to them first?
Kiki Bitterdew |
if they don't attack us first, if they do we can talk to the survivors.
Xanya Zellor |
Damn, Xanya is on totally the wrong side. they are close enough to coup the grace anyone still sleeping by the time next round rolls around... I assume it's impossible to overrun or bull rush anyone either due to the difficult terrain right?
Xanya Zellor |
From the map I have no clue which way the lean to is facing...
Simon Saito |
I found a perfect image for Aster when we need him.
The flowers and bark will change in different places (in a flavor sort of way), but he looks generally like that.
Xanya Zellor |
Who will Xanya hit with sound burst if she targets the bottom right square of the big blue goatman? That's as far as she can reach right? Is it possible to hit the big one + 3 or 4 of the others? Can I use it and avoid hitting Cardau and Kiki? Their location is not quite clear to me.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/combat/space-reach-threatened-area-te mplates This makes me think I have to hit an intersection. If I target the intersection at the bottom right corner of the big blue goatman's square I'll hit the big one, 4 more + Cardau right?
CaveToad |
Damn, Xanya is on totally the wrong side. they are close enough to coup the grace anyone still sleeping by the time next round rolls around... I assume it's impossible to overrun or bull rush anyone either due to the difficult terrain right?
The shelters would logically open facing the fire. Although they may be more tents based on Quassine's decsription of what he was trying to make. They may be like tubes you crawl in, or have a crude 'door' you lift off and place back on. You didn't have a lot of time to craft them, but I know from experience you can whip up something pretty quick with the plethora of pine trees around. I would err more on the side of crude structures than anything fancy.
CaveToad |
Who will Xanya hit with sound burst if she targets the bottom right square of the big blue goatman? That's as far as she can reach right? Is it possible to hit the big one + 3 or 4 of the others? Can I use it and avoid hitting Cardau and Kiki? Their location is not quite clear to me.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/combat/space-reach-threatened-area-te mplates This makes me think I have to hit an intersection. If I target the intersection at the bottom right corner of the big blue goatman's square I'll hit the big one, 4 more + Cardau right?
Templates are here for radius spells. If you target the square you intended, it does indeed need to be on a vertice. I moved Cardau a little to the east. Technically you are all huddled in the shelter. Those in there are 'squeezed' based on the squeeze rules, and also based on your description of how you slept. I just moved Cardau out a smidge to see the token so all the characters were not on top of each other, but technically he is in one of the squares with Sly and Kiki and Quassine.
Bottom line, you won't hit him. I loaded a semi transparent template of the 10' radius effect, that you can drag around to help plan. just drag it to the side of the map when not using.
Xanya Zellor |
Can she reach the intersection between 4,5 and 6? I think that will hit most of them and avoid all of us. That should be exactly 25 feet as well.
Xanya Zellor |
Or we could talk to them... :(
We could, but someone is thinking more about protecting her sleeping friends...
I could honestly see Xanya go either way, she'll often go with her gut feeling if she can justify it within Goodwins code though.
Kiki Bitterdew |
fixed some stuff on my profile (added a missing feat, fixed some skills)