Faith in Azlant

Really like them all, but I'm curious why Ulon has the Community domain when he's the god of isolation. Is this to show his role as the god of conspiracy as well? Trickery + Community = conspiracy?

Really like them all, but I'm curious why Ulon has the Community domain when he's the god of isolation. Is this to show his role as the god of conspiracy as well? Trickery + Community = conspiracy?

Also a deity of conspiracy and manipulation, both of which can thrive in a community. Perhaps he's a deity involved with creating increasingly isolated and withdrawn communities, unfriendly and untrusting with outsiders?

I actually like the Azlanti deities better than many of the modern Golarion crowd. Especially Ulon and Sicva. Is Sicva the first child of other deities that we know of, or am I missing someone?

As for Ulon and the Community domain, I could see it possibly being for the reasons Luthorne states- without a community, conspiracies don't really thrive. Like a pandemic, without a large group of people in close contact, such things would quickly die out. Also, to an extent, the cells that worshipped Ulon were small communities.

Is Lissala's Alignment a typo? Or did she change from LN to LE at some point in Golarion's history?

Acavna!

Is Lissala's Alignment a typo? Or did she change from LN to LE at some point in Golarion's history?

Don't quote me on this, as I'd have to look it up, but I think it's been said somewhere that she's been changed by the millennia having little more than sinful Runelord cultists as her worshippers.

Jurassic Pratt wrote:

Is Lissala's Alignment a typo? Or did she change from LN to LE at some point in Golarion's history?

Don't quote me on this, as I'd have to look it up, but I think it's been said somewhere that she's been changed by the millennia having little more than sinful Runelord cultists as her worshippers.

I've seen that as a fan theory, but the only official thing I've seen is it being reaffirmed that she's always been LE.

Acavna!

Seconded. My favorite dead deity of Golarion.

Is Lissala's Alignment a typo? Or did she change from LN to LE at some point in Golarion's history?

Not a typo; they go into slightly more detail in her entry, but the long and short of it is yes- she becomes evil later.

All of gods in articles details their Azlanti worship versions. Like, Shelyn has dagger as favored weapon since at this point Dou-Bral hadn't returned yet as Zon-Kuthon. Thats also why some of them have different portfolios. Lissala also has only 4 domains because she used to be minor god before she embraced her faith's corruption and became true god.

Only mistake regarding the article is that Nurgal is detailed as Demon Lord even though Book of the Damned revealed he used to be god before he got cleaved into demon lord

Only mistake regarding the article is that Nurgal is detailed as Demon Lord even though Book of the Damned revealed he used to be god before he got cleaved into demon lord

I'm not trying to be a smart-aleck, but let me bring your attention to...

Some people who've already read this article have commented that the details on Nurgal don't exactly add up to what's mentioned in Pathfinder RPG Book of the Damned. Much of this is due to the focus of the pantheon article, where I was focusing on how things were close to the end of the Azlanti Empire. The ancient origin of Nurgal as presented in Book of the Damned happened long before the empire's collapse, and frankly an expansive origin story for that demon lord deserves to be in the Book of the Damned where it has more space than a single column in an Adventure Path.

Oops ^^; Well I did literally just wake up around time I wrote that post.

...Ya know, I really should stop having "post messages" be the literally first thing I do when I wake up, that can't be healthy xD

Oops ^^; Well I did literally just wake up around time I wrote that post.

...Ya know, I really should stop having "post messages" be the literally first thing I do when I wake up, that can't be healthy xD

Though we're charmed that paizo.com is how you choose to start your day

The rows for Scal and Pharasma have cells shifted over by 1 column (but in different directions). Tried Firefox, Chrome, and Safari -- same results.

happy to see that some gods never change through the age—— from Azlant to pact world。
I mean, the end of the time is ALWAYS there.....

What happened to the Peacock Spirit?

Pretty sure that's more a Thassilon thing (and it's gonna be covered in Return of the Runelords I believe).

If these become PFS legal, I may have to buy this AP volume... and if I have to buy this one volume, I may as well buy the others... the legacy of the Wallet-bane lives on at Paizo, it seems...

At last, Acavna and Amaznen got write ups. Horray!

happy to see that some gods never change through the age—— from Azlant to pact world。

I mean, the end of the time is ALWAYS there.....

In a way, it's almost comforting, isn't it? No matter how terrible things may be nor how joyous the future may become, at the end of it all, there's someone waiting to turn out the lights on Everything when the time comes. Rovagug may burst free from prison, or the Cult of the Devourer may feed everything into a supermassive black hole, or the inhabitants of Axis may freeze everything into a never-changing lattice of pure Order, or, or, or....

It's like a safety blanket, for all of creation.
...a big, chaotic, void-filled, safety blanket.

At last, Acavna and Amaznen got write ups. Horray!

Acavna!

What happened to the Peacock Spirit?

The Peacock Spirit was not worshiped in Azlant. As indicted above, many, many more details about the PS and its cult can be found in next fall's AP, Return of the Runelords.

MythicFox wrote:

Jurassic Pratt wrote:

Is Lissala's Alignment a typo? Or did she change from LN to LE at some point in Golarion's history?

Don't quote me on this, as I'd have to look it up, but I think it's been said somewhere that she's been changed by the millennia having little more than sinful Runelord cultists as her worshippers.

I've seen that as a fan theory, but the only official thing I've seen is it being reaffirmed that she's always been LE.

Can you point to where this was officially reaffirmed?

Would it be too strong to let players play aquatic races in this AP? I wouldn't want some challenges to be easily mitigated or bypassed but some of those races in blood of the sea are so cool!

Jurassic Pratt wrote:

MythicFox wrote:

Jurassic Pratt wrote:

Is Lissala's Alignment a typo? Or did she change from LN to LE at some point in Golarion's history?

Don't quote me on this, as I'd have to look it up, but I think it's been said somewhere that she's been changed by the millennia having little more than sinful Runelord cultists as her worshippers.

I've seen that as a fan theory, but the only official thing I've seen is it being reaffirmed that she's always been LE.

Can you point to where this was officially reaffirmed?

Upon a closer look, nope. I'd seen a few forum posts by JJ saying she was but I suppose that's not official. My bad.

Definitely going to pick this up for that article as my interest has been piqued.

CorvusMask wrote:

Oops ^^; Well I did literally just wake up around time I wrote that post.

...Ya know, I really should stop having "post messages" be the literally first thing I do when I wake up, that can't be healthy xD

Though we're charmed that paizo.com is how you choose to start your day

>_>

Wonder if Amaznen was the one to create Brigh, on purpose or accident aside.

Wonder if Amaznen was the one to create Brigh, on purpose or accident aside.

Or if she is secretly Amaznen with her body destroyed and her mind in an artificial one.

Which of these gods/goddesses are dead?

Will worshiping these non-dead deities grant those domains?

These are ancient versions of these gods so if I were to worship Shelyn, I use her modern favored weapon? or do I get to choose?

Which of these gods/goddesses are dead?

Acavna's dead and Amaznen basically ended up getting evicted from reality- just about everybody else is supposedly still out there- might be one or two exceptions, but it's late and I'm not firing up the PDF to double-check.

Will worshiping these non-dead deities grant those domains?

To my great delight, many of them are mentioned as having still-active worshipers in various places.

These are ancient versions of these gods so if I were to worship Shelyn, I use her modern favored weapon? or do I get to choose?

Since the Dagger is a Simple weapon, safe to say modern Shelynites get the glaive proficiency, while anyone who predates the return of Dou-Bral probably has to make do.

I wonder if any of these deities are still worshipped in the Azlanti Star Empire?

Also, is Ulon a gender-neutral/nonbinary deity? Love their art!

Jurassic Pratt wrote:

MythicFox wrote:

Jurassic Pratt wrote:

Is Lissala's Alignment a typo? Or did she change from LN to LE at some point in Golarion's history?

Don't quote me on this, as I'd have to look it up, but I think it's been said somewhere that she's been changed by the millennia having little more than sinful Runelord cultists as her worshippers.

I've seen that as a fan theory, but the only official thing I've seen is it being reaffirmed that she's always been LE.

Can you point to where this was officially reaffirmed?

I do seem to recall James saying that at one point, during a discussion about her alignment.......

Sicva is a very good candidate for continued worship in the Azlanti Star Empire IMO

I also happen to think that her picture looks very Kryptonian to me, which fits the arrogant uber-human space-faring culture trope

And I just noticed that her favored weapon is the lasso :-)

Mark Moreland wrote:

Jurassic Pratt wrote:

MythicFox wrote:

Jurassic Pratt wrote:

Is Lissala's Alignment a typo? Or did she change from LN to LE at some point in Golarion's history?

Don't quote me on this, as I'd have to look it up, but I think it's been said somewhere that she's been changed by the millennia having little more than sinful Runelord cultists as her worshippers.

I've seen that as a fan theory, but the only official thing I've seen is it being reaffirmed that she's always been LE.

Can you point to where this was officially reaffirmed?

I do seem to recall James saying that at one point, during a discussion about her alignment.......

Not sure how official it is :

She's always been lawful evil... but more lawful THAN evil, whereas I'd say that Zon-Kuthon is more evil than lawful.

in the thread "Lissala" here

Some fun inside commentary on this:

Back when I was working on Into the Shattered Continent I approached Adam with an idea about a cult of Desna/Pharasma worshippers who aligned their portfolios of stars and prophecy and formed a cabal of fortune-teller prophets. One of the fun side stories of that, which I'm not entirely sure made it in to the text of Shattered Continent as overtly as I'd intended, was suggesting that the priests were literally shipping Desna and Pharasma.

So, in my mind, Azlanti priests absolutely wrote romantic deity fanfiction.

It also makes Aroden look like a bit of a 'mooch' or alternatively one of the kinds of folks that tries to preserve EVERYTHING they know about their culture and can only grab certain bits of it?

Perhaps as a 'side-effect' of trying to preserve *any* knowledge or information they had, it kept other deities relevant, though a bit pissed off at the misappropriation of folios?

...could also go a long way to explain why Aroden went away, and why the Eye, etc, etc... unless it was a sacred duty of the Azlant Star Empire to send people along every few hundred years for a 'sacred rebirth' to take over?

...because the other thing Aroden's faith begins to look like is more a bureaucratic compromise from a society that's trying to get all their 'best' things in place while keeping their 'hooks' in for eventual take-over?

EDIT: On the Phasna shipping... It could also have been an echo of some of the Eldest from the First World, as well?

the priests were literally shipping Desna and Pharasma.

My two favorite deities. Guess I found my Azlanti sect of choice...

Some of the entries in the AP article mention that there are still pockets of worshippers.

We all get out own version of Golarion where the answers to these questions are up to us, but I was curious from the developer intent, do these deities still answer the call of their faithful (minus Acavna and Amaznen)?

I wonder if any of these deities are still worshipped in the Azlanti Star Empire?

Also, is Ulon a gender-neutral/nonbinary deity? Love their art!

There might be some still worshiped in the Azlanti Star Empire, but as of yet that is unrevealed.

As for Ulon the Web, yes and/or unrevealed.

Some of the entries in the AP article mention that there are still pockets of worshippers.

We all get out own version of Golarion where the answers to these questions are up to us, but I was curious from the developer intent, do these deities still answer the call of their faithful (minus Acavna and Amaznen)?

The living deities are still capable of granting spells to worshipers.

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It's fixed now!

Removed post.

Some fun inside commentary on this:

Back when I was working on Into the Shattered Continent I approached Adam with an idea about a cult of Desna/Pharasma worshippers who aligned their portfolios of stars and prophecy and formed a cabal of fortune-teller prophets. One of the fun side stories of that, which I'm not entirely sure made it in to the text of Shattered Continent as overtly as I'd intended, was suggesting that the priests were literally shipping Desna and Pharasma.

So, in my mind, Azlanti priests absolutely wrote romantic deity fanfiction.

This is super cool!

I know this is years old but I'm only just finding it. I have to say... it says A LOT that of the Azlanti's 20 gods only 6 of them are good, many of the neutrals have questionable domains, and the evil ones are all absolutely horrifying (and a few are currently demons).

I know this is years old but I'm only just finding it. I have to say... it says A LOT that of the Azlanti's 20 gods only 6 of them are good, many of the neutrals have questionable domains, and the evil ones are all absolutely horrifying (and a few are currently demons).

Well, it wasn't as if the Thassilonian Empire was a nice place to live with all of their most powerful rulers being evil and all. And that doesn't even get into the ones the runelords themselves worshiped primarily (Sorshen and Nocticula, Alaznist and Yamasoth, Xanderghul and the Peacock Spirit).

I wonder how many people noticed the continuity error about Shelyn?

At the time of Earthfall, Zon-Kuthon had been imprisoned in the Plane of Shadow for a while.