Yeah I was shot in the darking with him :D All I knew was that it was two level 6 spell casters. I moved him since I can still edit it up at the moment.Good list, but I think Iacamo is misplaced.
Iacamo is more a physical/spell-caster hybrid. I expect him to mix it up in melee fairly often.
Actually, covenant medium is the 6 level spell caster (sort of), while pact magic occultist has no spell casting at all. Neither are the versions from Occult Adventures. They are the 3pp versions.
Still open? Always wanted to play a Kingmaker campaign :)
something that i thought was never clear from kingmaker, did we get hired to colonize the stolen lands or did we get hired to take care of the bandits initially?
From what I understand, four groups of adventurers are given charters that, if they can claim land in the River Kindoms aka the Stolen Lands, which is rife with bandits and monsters, then Brevoy will help them set up a colony in which the adventurers become the rulers. Each person is given the titles and power necessary to accomplish this. Who ever is picked king from the group will eventually become the equivalent of a noble in Brevoy. Brevoy is hoping to essentially grow an ally without having to waste a lot of money and resources itself.
Well, more specifically that's how it starts. Rostland specifically sends you, to have an ally to the south if a civil war comes about. You're essentially a Brevian noble towards the beginning, but by the end of Kingmaker you're really more the ruler of your own lands than a pawn of Brevoy or Rostland. You really start to get out from under their thumb later, although I know a lot of DMs mess around with it to make them more important to the main plot.
Actually, covenant medium is the 6 level spell caster (sort of), while pact magic occultist has no spell casting at all. Neither are the versions from Occult Adventures. They are the 3pp versions.Yeah I was shot in the darking with him :D All I knew was that it was two level 6 spell casters. I moved him since I can still edit it up at the moment.Good list, but I think Iacamo is misplaced.
Iacamo is more a physical/spell-caster hybrid. I expect him to mix it up in melee fairly often.
Ooooh! I assumed they were new archetypes of the classes in the Occult Adventures books since there is a medium and occultist in there lol.
I have been waiting for an opportunity to play these two classes in concert for a few years. The flavor is absolutely delicious. You should look them up. Radiance updated the old Tome of Magic binder with Pact Magic, and Purple Duck created a medium a while back that makes negotiating with spirits a core mechanic of the class. The complexity in their interactions is glorious!
something that i thought was never clear from kingmaker, did we get hired to colonize the stolen lands or did we get hired to take care of the bandits initially?From what I understand, four groups of adventurers are given charters that, if they can claim land in the River Kindoms aka the Stolen Lands, which is rife with bandits and monsters, then Brevoy will help them set up a colony in which the adventurers become the rulers. Each person is given the titles and power necessary to accomplish this. Who ever is picked king from the group will eventually become the equivalent of a noble in Brevoy. Brevoy is hoping to essentially grow an ally without having to waste a lot of money and resources itself.
well i mean the charter is an exploration charter as far as i'm aware. (got into a kingmaker campaign but didn't go far) with a specific clause to fight and root out banditry. I was wondering if exploration insinuated claiming the land or if later after we dealt with the bandits it would become more clear.
I just want to know to better understand the motivations for accepting the charter.
I'm going to work on a character for this, should be posted later today hopefully.
I'm going with a Fighter (Unbreakable)//Barbarian (Invulnerable Rager) for a character that just won't go down. Not the best usage of gestalt in the world, but I have been wanting to make a character like this for a long time.
Just have to write out the backstory.
something that i thought was never clear from kingmaker, did we get hired to colonize the stolen lands or did we get hired to take care of the bandits initially?From what I understand, four groups of adventurers are given charters that, if they can claim land in the River Kindoms aka the Stolen Lands, which is rife with bandits and monsters, then Brevoy will help them set up a colony in which the adventurers become the rulers. Each person is given the titles and power necessary to accomplish this. Who ever is picked king from the group will eventually become the equivalent of a noble in Brevoy. Brevoy is hoping to essentially grow an ally without having to waste a lot of money and resources itself.well i mean the charter is an exploration charter as far as i'm aware. (got into a kingmaker campaign but didn't go far) with a specific clause to fight and root out banditry. I was wondering if exploration insinuated claiming the land or if later after we dealt with the bandits it would become more clear.
I just want to know to better understand the motivations for accepting the charter.
It does. You get an updated charter later once the first hurdle is complete, getting rid of the Staglord.
i don't know anything bout no staglord and i don't want to find out unless it's in the campaign. :P
I would love to jump in on this too, despite the massive amount of applicants in here. I'm looking at putting together a Half-Giant Titan Fighter, so if nobody else is going for beingone of the "monstrous races," I'd fill that niche. Should definitely be interesting, as I'd 110% be the Big Dumb Fighter. The other half of the gestalt would be an Invulnerable Rager archetype Barbarian, so he's all about being the brick wall between you lot and the baddies. If you're not a fan of any part of this combo, just say so and I'll juggle things around! I love monstrous races and am also looking at Minotaur or Orc or something, too. Should be getting the crunch together this evening and backstory to follow, so stay tuned!
Pretty sure I'm not done my crunch, and a good chunk of the background is up. Just finishing up with the portion that ties her into Brevoy.
Going to post this while Paizo is up.
While on one hand, we have ~27 interested folks, maybe half have expressed more then gentle interest.
Have to say, there are more than a couple intriguing concepts that have been submitted, even if no one else brings forth a concept beyond those that are at least half done, it won't be easy.
While at work today, I tried to filter through all the interested, to see if I could work out Primary/Secondary stats, to work up potential roles, and we have a fair amount of variety ... other than Primary Wisdom (Pink Eye's Monk/Sorc(Wis) was the only one I saw).
There were a couple with sheets over on Mythweaver, that I wasn't able to check.
Primary / Secondary Stat:
Str: 3 + 1
Dex: 6 + 3
Con: 0 + 3
Int: 2 + 4
Wis: 1 + 2
Cha: 4 + 3
Cassandra Lupin, I ... think... you are a touch high on point buy, but that might be partly racial or class mods that I'm not familiar with. (I have a class enhancement that is currently +2 Dex, and you have a more unique set up so I'm assuming that's the case)
Kree Dera, I think, you are a bit low on point buy.
Zaranda, I may have missed your updated profile, I was checking while at work, and all I see is a L5 character.
Shi' I like what you did backgroundwise, but confess I have no idea how your stats work, but they seemed low.
As for skill monkey role, I clock in with 14 skill points/level, and a feature that allows me to use psionic 'scrolls' as a sort of 'powers known list', only burning up the 'scroll' when I swap 'powers known', to give it a really short explanation. So I'll be able to use L1-4ish powers (From any list that I can find/buy) over time, and fly from L 5+.
I'd still place myself on the Physical DPR end of things, but with a large toolkit in addition to a large number of skill points.
Yeah I was shot in the darking with him :D All I knew was that it was two level 6 spell casters. I moved him since I can still edit it up at the moment.Good list, but I think Iacamo is misplaced.
Iacamo is more a physical/spell-caster hybrid. I expect him to mix it up in melee fairly often.
You missed Shi'Vatha. :(
Shi' I like what you did backgroundwise, but confess I have no idea how your stats work, but they seemed low.
Racial mods : Str +4, Dex +4, Con +2, Int -4
Small Mods : Str -4, Dex +2, Con -2Stat Spending : Str (4) Dex (4) Con (4) Int (6) Wis (2), Cha (2) Buy off -4 Int Penalty (4)
Because Shi is small, he has a str cancelling penalty, gains 2 dex, and loses 2 con. He'll likely become Medium sized at some point, and gain +4 str, -2 dex, and +2 con.
A large part of his point buy went toward the INT, because Eidelon's are normally dumb, but he isn't.
Note that as he levels up, he gains Str/Dex ever few levels, so those stats will increase over time.
Huh. You're right. Missed that. That also reminds me. Do templates remove the original racial abilities or add to them? Do I keep the +2 to anything and the extra skill point or does the template erase that? I went with the assumption that it adds to the character sense I saw nothing that says it replaces them.
If you add any template like half-celestial then you are no longer the original race. So the templates ability modifiers would replace the core modifiers.
You missed Shi'Vatha. :(
Sorry! I just used what was on the preexisting list! I'll try to make sure I get you on the next list if I make one!
My understanding, and how I've always run games, is that a template sits on top of whatever else is there, so, it would be in addition to the +2 for being human. That said, I don't know what the two of you have worked out.
Is it still open for character ideas?
You missed Shi'Vatha. :(Sorry! I just used what was on the preexisting list! I'll try to make sure I get you on the next list if I make one!
Wait a second! I did not miss you! You are there. You're one of the ones in italics. Second under Physical + Caster!
Missed Namit however.
Human Slayer/Ranger, just need to flesh out my background ideas.
Would people like me to compile a list of additional structures for later reference during kingdom-building?
DinosaursOnIce- Ah, my mistake!
Gnomezrule- You have plenty of time to get a character ready! What were you looking at?
I am thinking something like a bard/slayer bard/swashbuckler I played in another Kingmaker game that ran for about 2 years but still has only met a certain bandit lord once. I am trying to come up with a character I like that is not a rehash of my old Kingmaker guy but still makes some sense in the campaign.
((Updated with an Alais))
Wow, the interest level in this is pretty intense! I think this is the most apps I've ever seen for one game.
So is Lineera the one from Zartana's backstory? You guys know each other I presume? I personally am all for combining backgrounds to establish a connection with everyone but usually only after selection. Makes it seem like you are a group and can't have one without the other.
Yeah, we figured that in case we both got selected, it'd be a good idea and fun at the same time if our characters knew each other. So we put our heads together and came up with that, I just haven't updated my background to match just yet.
Gunslinger/Inquisitor update. Sheet is done and should be posting backstory soonish.
Wait a second! I did not miss you! You are there. You're one of the ones in italics. Second under Physical + Caster!You missed Shi'Vatha. :(Sorry! I just used what was on the preexisting list! I'll try to make sure I get you on the next list if I make one!
Sorry, not sure how I missed that one. I think I was looking for it somewhere else, because to start off the game he's not a caster. Although I do plan on picking up a few spells along the way.
If you add any template like half-celestial then you are no longer the original race. So the templates ability modifiers would replace the core modifiers.
Incorrect, templates do exactly what they say they do, no more, no less.
If the template says 'Add Blah' then you Add Blah, you don't subtract something and add blah.
If it says 'remove Blah' you remove blah, you don't add blah and then remove blah.
For example, Giant creature says : Size increase by one category; AC increase natural armor by +3; Attacks increase dice rolled by 1 step; Ability Scores +4 size bonus to Str and Con, –2 Dex.
So, a human who had put his racial +2 into Str would have the following additions :
Size = Medium + 1 = Large
AC +0 (+3) = +4
Punch = 1d3 + One Level = 1d4
Str = +2 + 4 = +6 bonus
Dex = +0 - 2 = -2 Penalty
There are some templates that state you remove something. Skeleton, Zombie, and Vampire for example.
Hard to stand out in the crowd here amongst all these applicants, But Anghus here is all done, just have to get the fluff up to complete the submission.
He had all kinds of gold to spend, as such I bought a small wagon, 2 donkeys, and a rowboat to go on top of the wagon. I have this vision of this little escaped halfling living along trails in the stolen lands humbly, and I envision him broadening his perspective as he grows into a prospective leader/important official of a newborn nation. He'll maintain priorities shifted towards the interests of the disenfranchised, the poor, the enslaved and mistreated.
Should be able to update his prologue today.
Thanks GM Kingslayer, how long till your selections?
my character also had a ton of money left over what with an arcane bonded item and and a free mst wrk weapon. I didn't want to buy a wagon and what not though :P.
are there any other good items to buy he has a compass, i'd like other misc survival gear.
also, I think his internet has been down he mentioned that a bit ago that it happened to him, and well I was in a PM with him back and forth about an unrelated topic and he stopped a few days ago. so, just some warning it could be he can't see any of this right now.
Submission complete yay. Been quite busy. Looking forward to this.
Alexander was of the family of Medvyed. Born well off a part of the noble families he could do anything in life that he wanted with a little effort. He was not a major noble and had no great responsibilities hanging over him. The padded life and high education of a lesser noble was quite a step up from the common man but his eyes always seemed drawn to them, as if there was something there that attracted him. When he was old enough to do as he pleased he often traveled the kingdom, visiting every corner, every noble house and city. Always accompanying him was his best friend from childhood, an always loyal servant named Jonhen. They had grown up together and no matter how hard friendship with a commoner had been discouraged it had not stopped him. They had many adventures together in the towns and the manors and castles, sometimes causing trouble, sometimes stopping it. Alexander liked the escapes from his normal life and the excitement when no one knew who he was and acted as if he was just another citizen amongst them. Sometimes he would see the beggars in the streets, a bandit in the alley and wonder what was wrong with the world that people could be so poor or desperate in such a wonderful country as theirs. Whenever he asked why there were the poor he was only told it was how the world was. It was their place and it was his place to be a noble. Some said it was necessary that some have lots and the less fortunate find security and be protected by the noble families in the cities. Few others told him that more powerful than money was knowledge and if people were educated there would be less poverty. But he knew that there was equal problem not with just education but that the nobles liked their place and would never want to elevate the common people too far. Things would never change. His enquiries brought trouble upon him and his own family distanced themselves from him.
He spent much time among other noble families and other races too. In particular the dwarves he found a comradeship he never expected. Perhaps it was the bond that he saw between the dwarven people in his land. There were far more educated and looked after their own. This friendship led to a special opportunity for trade. He had heard of the far away land of Alkenstar and their strange advanced technology. It cost him much but to him it was worth the purchase and only possible as the dwarves deemed he could be trusted. He learned how to use this 'musket' and learnt the dwarven language. He is considered a friend to dwarves and it was them that he turned to when his family shunned him. No others would receive him for fear of their standing with the families. In this short time he dedicated himself to Abadar and swore to use his life to make a better world. He asked the dwarven clerics how he might begin setting things on a better path. Worried he had a little too much zeal and still too young, they advised he could do more good bringing law elsewhere first. They pointed him south to bandit and fey filled River Kingdoms. Expeditions were being called to send Brevoy influence south. He would show his family that he knew a better way, he also wished to the those in the lawless lands that they too could live a better life.
Just FYI I am still lurking, just not much to say until we get started.
Submission complete yay. Been quite busy. Looking forward to this.
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Another cousin! Didn't we meet last Equinox? I was the one in the corner. Father made me dance that one time. He seemed bothered that no one saw my partner other than myself. Still it was a good visit.
Incorrect, templates do exactly what they say they do, no more, no less.
If the template says 'Add Blah' then you Add Blah, you don't subtract something and add blah.
If it says 'remove Blah' you remove blah, you don't add blah and then remove blah.
For example, Giant creature says : Size increase by one category; AC increase natural armor by +3; Attacks increase dice rolled by 1 step; Ability Scores +4 size bonus to Str and Con, –2 Dex.
So, a human who had put his racial +2 into Str would have the following additions :
Size = Medium + 1 = Large
AC +0 (+3) = +4
Punch = 1d3 + One Level = 1d4
Str = +2 + 4 = +6 bonus
Dex = +0 - 2 = -2 PenaltyThere are some templates that state you remove something. Skeleton, Zombie, and Vampire for example.
Hmm, looked at the various half templates and they are even more broken then I thought. You are correct.
why are people mentioning templates? is he allowing templates?
So is Lineera the one from Zartana's backstory? You guys know each other I presume? I personally am all for combining backgrounds to establish a connection with everyone but usually only after selection. Makes it seem like you are a group and can't have one without the other.
actually it works out if only one is chosen. the stories do split up at a certain point. so in theory they never meet up again etc =^^=
why are people mentioning templates? is he allowing templates?
Monster classes were mentioned as an option. I think that is what is being explored.
why are people mentioning templates? is he allowing templates?Monster classes were mentioned as an option. I think that is what is being explored.
oh hmm, i don't believe i know anything about those.
Missed Namit however.
Human Slayer/Ranger, just need to flesh out my background ideas.
Darn! I totally missed that you put in an app after Cassandra's list. I tried ;n;
why are people mentioning templates? is he allowing templates?
My character is a natural werewolf. The template gives low-light, scent, +2 to Wis, -2 Cha, and the usually special abilities. I worked it out with the DM that the +1 CR from the template would translate to loosing one level on one side of the gestalt.
also, I think his internet has been down he mentioned that a bit ago that it happened to him, and well I was in a PM with him back and forth about an unrelated topic and he stopped a few days ago. so, just some warning it could be he can't see any of this right now.
Also good to hear. Sort of.
If we ended up both being picked however my character would probably be friendly and interested in your character if he found out you were a friendly lycanthrope. My character has a specific interest in transmutation magic and specifically shape changing abilities.
edit: after reading your back story, sounds like stuff could get very interesting if they were chosen.
He mentioned to our WotW group that he was having internet troubles, something about a storm? It might not be completely fixed yet.
Looking into it, I see that Charter has some MAJOR outages atm, I hope that's the case. A couple of the areas are larger than some states....
I suspect it is. He was posting pretty regularly until outages started, came back for a day or so, and disappeared again. I'm guessing his internet is still down, for the most part.
I suspect it is. He was posting pretty regularly until outages started, came back for a day or so, and disappeared again. I'm guessing his internet is still down, for the most part.
yeah , I kind of mentioned this. we were chatting it up about darksouls and then he went silent all of a sudden. hopefully he'll get back before he has 50 or so applicants.
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If we ended up both being picked however my character would probably be friendly and interested in your character if he found out you were a friendly lycanthrope. My character has a specific interest in transmutation magic and specifically shape changing abilities.
edit: after reading your back story, sounds like stuff could get very interesting if they were chosen.
Hmm. Nothing on the PFSRD suggests the afflicted can't pass on the disease. And it seems if they have children then they are most likely going to be natural Lycans. Also it is possible to be cursed and not even get bitten but that is much rarer. On the pathfinder wiki I was surprised to see that in some places they are actually respected for their skill and ferocity.
Also, why is your character interested in shape-changing. There seems to be nothing in your backstory to suggest it.
It's under his personality spoiler, but there no explanation of why he's interested.