Deepwater Rising

Game Master Winterwalker

Got it, thanks!

I'm thinking of changing the name to Of the Swamp as well...it does seem better fitting since this isn't going to be the Were-shark but the Were-Gator

Did we ever decide if background skills were a yay or nay?

Like I wanna use em, and the GM was pretty "Eh, do it if you want" but I don't wanna use em unless the whole party is using em.

As someone with 1 skill point per level + 1 from favored class, I'm definitely in favor of background skills but I feel you.

Ultimately its fine either way for me.

Background Skills were allowed how did you guys feel about the list of alternate rules I posted earlier in this thread
I'm just a little background character who doesn't participate in combats but I used background skills

Personally I can't stand about ninety percent of what Unchained added...Really all I'm happy with is buff to Rogues...I'm iffy on the Barbarian simplification...but I've long played barbs the old way so I'm just set in my ways probably. (I will admit you probably get more bang for buck rage powers wise with the tiered nonsense...but I still like the feel of the old one).

So, I'm pretty nope on all the new/updated rules.

That said as far as advanced rules, I lean towards Ultimate Campaign's stuff as I think they did a good job with kingdom building, relationship building, and other.

I think there is a book called Ultimate Relationships (I'm not sure if it's paizo) but we are experimenting with it in a Jade Reagent game I'm playing in and I like the concept just haven't played enough of it get a feel of the follow through with it.

Edit: Profile is updated with what I consider...final draft of stats and build. If Background skills is a thing the group wants to do...then I'll adjust slightly (Currently have Profession Sailor already, so I'll likely pick up Know Engineering. And either adjust to have the Heal Skill....or Acrobatics and I'm leaning Acrobatics as others are far more useful with Heal than I'd be. [Would likely use it to fake causes of death from...well Cause of death being Gahrul])

I included background skills. I don't really care for any of the other optional rules.

So that's a general consensus for NO okay was just wondering

Personally I can't stand about ninety percent of what Unchained added...Really all I'm happy with is buff to Rogues...I'm iffy on the Barbarian simplification...but I've long played barbs the old way so I'm just set in my ways probably. (I will admit you probably get more bang for buck rage powers wise with the tiered nonsense...but I still like the feel of the old one).

So, I'm pretty nope on all the new/updated rules.

That said as far as advanced rules, I lean towards Ultimate Campaign's stuff as I think they did a good job with kingdom building, relationship building, and other.

I think there is a book called Ultimate Relationships (I'm not sure if it's paizo) but we are experimenting with it in a Jade Reagent game I'm playing in and I like the concept just haven't played enough of it get a feel of the follow through with it.

Edit: Profile is updated with what I consider...final draft of stats and build. If Background skills is a thing the group wants to do...then I'll adjust slightly (Currently have Profession Sailor already, so I'll likely pick up Know Engineering. And either adjust to have the Heal Skill....or Acrobatics and I'm leaning Acrobatics as others are far more useful with Heal than I'd be. [Would likely use it to fake causes of death from...well Cause of death being Gahrul])

Contacts is ultimate campaign

Side note, everyone is ok with a Killer Croc in the group yes? (Referring to the NE bit)

I'm not planning to plot against anyone....though if you do try to put my dumb younger brother in a very harmful situation I might plot your demise >.> Gahrul is smart enough to know better than let himself be conned into something incredibly dangerous and stupid.

I'm holding back a tiny bit on creating a backstory as I want Yorick to get the limelight so to speak on creating our semi shared backstory.

I'm a fairly not new player and I was also the cheese addition to the party so I feel it's better form to let the newer/chosen player to get the most say in this instance.

I'm fine with that. I really like the idea of a NE older brother watching out for his LG paladin younger sibling actually lol.

And as for backstory stuff, honestly I'm fine either way. That is nice of you to offer the limelight but I'm totally fine with you chipping in more as well!

The bare bones stuff I had so far was that our swamp - werecrocodile community was fairly insular, thus the respect for the elders etc. I didn't imagine it being necessarily a tribal or xenophobic place, and the community would probably have traded enough for you to have access to rifle. What are your thoughts on that?

I think that sounds pretty awesome personally! The "bad seed" older brother who watches out for the "golden child" spoiled younger one. That's a great RP setup.

It's almost like Sonny and Michael on the Godfather. :D

I have my guy listed at 31 so up to you how old you wanna be in comparison.

I assume that if this is Golarion turned Waterworld....I would assume we come from somewhere around the River Kingdoms area. I'm not sure where you'd exactly place said swamp but it'd have a small channel leading into the bigger rivers that make up a trading hub so to speak.

My thoughts were that Gahrul probably spent most of his life on the boats that went up and down those channels mostly during his brother's younger years and his years in the Temple being trained. Upon his Brother's return to the swamp, he's taken back to watching over him to a degree so if he took up the work of being a Paladin of the rivers/oceans...Gahrul would have been happy. But regardless would have been there to make sure Yorick doesn't have a crisis of faith from the non believers being terrible people.

Have you figured out what God you committed your service to? Personally given the...upbringing Gozreh might be an option.

I like the idea of being from the river kingdoms.

I think Yorick would be more of a pantheist than anything, not devoting to a specific god but believing that several are worthy of praise dependent on the situation. He'd probably respect Erastil for the ways of the hunt and the community, but find some of his teachings too rigid.

Yorick would probably have enjoyed the teachings of multiple empyreal lords, praying to different ones at different times. Their absence would be horrifying to him but I'm not sure in the chaos that their absence has clicked for him yet.

Honestly I'm not sure he knows he's a "paladin" yet. He's probably met a crusader or two and found their ways quite funny, but all he knows is that he received training on the gods he didn't pay very close attention too but he did learn how to wear armor and wield weapons, he can focus to see "badness" in some things if he concentrates, and he was taught how to "call for help" if he ever did fight something with badness inside it. (Smite evil)

Yorick would probably "look up" to his older brother, impressed with his boating proficiency and stealth, the latter of which he's tried to copy as well.

Actually that inspired me to just make a full arcanist, something I haven't done before. I think I will take the occultist archetype to have some cheap summons too.

I'm working on it now. :D

@GM: Am I ok taking the elf favored class bonus as an aquatic elf?

edit: Aquan isn't listed as available for a starting language which seems like an oversight. Am I ok taking it?

Aquan is an elemental language, I'm not OK with handing that out for free. Sorry. Feel free to invest ranks on speaking languages however, a skill point for a few languages can be very handy.

OK, I think I'm all set. Let me know if you have any comments or see anything wrong with my guy.

Good enough for me :)

Well you're in luck because that's what I settled on! Here he is, let me know of anything wrong sticking out.

Paladins! Woo!

Tundran wrote:

Actually that inspired me to just make a full arcanist, something I haven't done before. I think I will take the occultist archetype to have some cheap summons too.

I'm working on it now. :D

@GM: Am I ok taking the elf favored class bonus as an aquatic elf?

edit: Aquan isn't listed as available for a starting language which seems like an oversight. Am I ok taking it?

Aquan is an elemental language, I'm not OK with handing that out for free. Sorry. Feel free to invest ranks on speaking languages however, a skill point for a few languages can be very handy.

Grauk has it but thats because of his curse. He has draconic because he's a Lizardfolk but one of their racial abilities means he got no bonus languages from a high intelligence so I had to spend a point in linguistics to get common. I'm playing it as him only learned recently.

Aquan is an elemental language, I'm not OK with handing that out for free. Sorry. Feel free to invest ranks on speaking languages however, a skill point for a few languages can be very handy.

Fair enough. I put a point into Linguistics but actually forgot to take a language for it, so I will just learn Aquan that way. Taking Goblin as my other starting language.

Winterwalker wrote:

Tundran wrote:

Actually that inspired me to just make a full arcanist, something I haven't done before. I think I will take the occultist archetype to have some cheap summons too.

I'm working on it now. :D

@GM: Am I ok taking the elf favored class bonus as an aquatic elf?

edit: Aquan isn't listed as available for a starting language which seems like an oversight. Am I ok taking it?

Aquan is an elemental language, I'm not OK with handing that out for free. Sorry. Feel free to invest ranks on speaking languages however, a skill point for a few languages can be very handy.

Grauk has it but thats because of his curse. He has draconic because he's a Lizardfolk but one of their racial abilities means he got no bonus languages from a high intelligence so I had to spend a point in linguistics to get common. I'm playing it as him only learned recently.

If you got it as part of class/race/starter options sure. That's ok. However it isn't a "free" language normally selectable via having a high int kind of thing. At least, not to my knowledge.

So buying it via skills, feats, or other build options is perfectly allowed.

Winterwalker wrote:

Aquan is an elemental language, I'm not OK with handing that out for free. Sorry. Feel free to invest ranks on speaking languages however, a skill point for a few languages can be very handy.

Fair enough. I put a point into Linguistics but actually forgot to take a language for it, so I will just learn Aquan that way. Taking Goblin as my other starting language.

That's cool by me.

Grauk wrote:

Winterwalker wrote:

Tundran wrote:

Actually that inspired me to just make a full arcanist, something I haven't done before. I think I will take the occultist archetype to have some cheap summons too.

I'm working on it now. :D

@GM: Am I ok taking the elf favored class bonus as an aquatic elf?

edit: Aquan isn't listed as available for a starting language which seems like an oversight. Am I ok taking it?

Aquan is an elemental language, I'm not OK with handing that out for free. Sorry. Feel free to invest ranks on speaking languages however, a skill point for a few languages can be very handy.

Grauk has it but thats because of his curse. He has draconic because he's a Lizardfolk but one of their racial abilities means he got no bonus languages from a high intelligence so I had to spend a point in linguistics to get common. I'm playing it as him only learned recently.

If you got it as part of class/race/starter options sure. That's ok. However it isn't a "free" language normally selectable via having a high int kind of thing. At least, not to my knowledge.

So buying it via skills, feats, or other build options is perfectly allowed.

Humans and half-elves can select any languages if they have a high int

Winterwalker wrote:

Grauk wrote:

Winterwalker wrote:

Tundran wrote:

Actually that inspired me to just make a full arcanist, something I haven't done before. I think I will take the occultist archetype to have some cheap summons too.

I'm working on it now. :D

@GM: Am I ok taking the elf favored class bonus as an aquatic elf?

edit: Aquan isn't listed as available for a starting language which seems like an oversight. Am I ok taking it?

Aquan is an elemental language, I'm not OK with handing that out for free. Sorry. Feel free to invest ranks on speaking languages however, a skill point for a few languages can be very handy.

Grauk has it but thats because of his curse. He has draconic because he's a Lizardfolk but one of their racial abilities means he got no bonus languages from a high intelligence so I had to spend a point in linguistics to get common. I'm playing it as him only learned recently.

If you got it as part of class/race/starter options sure. That's ok. However it isn't a "free" language normally selectable via having a high int kind of thing. At least, not to my knowledge.

So buying it via skills, feats, or other build options is perfectly allowed.

Humans and half-elves can select any languages if they have a high int

Oreads,Sylphs,Undine,Ifrits and Sulis can select any Elemental language if they have a high int

I guess I've always assumed the elemental languages were special, though if that's what the rules define as allowable I'm fine with you fixing your sheet then if you'd prefer to have it based on high int/bonus language.

Notice :
189birds and umbungo, you have active slots that haven't been used as of yet. If you plan on joining us please do. :)

If you lost interest let me know so I can slot some alternates. If you can't post soon I may bump you down to sideline PCs until slots open back up.

Thanks!
WW

This is some hardcore karma nonsense right here :P.

Lol, nah this is fine. I half deserve this

FYI:

189birds and umbungo have been bumped from active duty. Krendec has moved to active duty and I will advertise 1 open slot in the recruitment thread.

I swear, worst character death if a Were-croc drowns. I will literally laugh myself to sleep.

I swear, worst character death if a Were-croc drowns. I will literally laugh myself to sleep.

I was just looking at your sheet like...can't he breathe water? no...sheet. Well that would be funny as heck as far as karma goes.

The annoying thing is I keep thinking I could save him if I could touch him
Definitely getting reach spell at third

Yassss....I shall be your guilt, your burning passion for life!

I mean what?

By the by, love the personal flair in GM style

Man a nat twenty, I was just doing the intimidate for style.... the rest of the party is going to think he is level ten or something...

By the by, love the personal flair in GM style

Compliments! Yay! I'm leveling up my DM character Sheet!

That's at least one werecrocodile wookie life debt, maybe two... Grauk could become a potent warlord... shame he is fated to die at the hands of Gahrul later in the voyage to clear them in an accident.

Krendec, you planning on picking up shield of faith whenever we level up?

I mean apart from the letting gravity do the work...you seem like a sense-able sort...Gahrul will only possibly attempt to off you if you are trouble for him and his brother...you're useful right now

That's at least one werecrocodile wookie life debt, maybe two... Grauk could become a potent warlord... shame he is fated to die at the hands of Gahrul later in the voyage to clear them in an accident.

Krendec, you planning on picking up shield of faith whenever we level up?

Retraining or level up whichever is fastest

Had half a mind to wheel about, shoot the bit of mast that fell just to show that I don't need Strength to kill something...but I'd rather hold it for when I need to pop that human in the head....or first combat to surprise the hell out of the crew.

Free spellbook!!! I wonder when the rest of us will get loot

I'm going to be Away for the next 2/3 days camping, Sorry for any inconvenience

no harm

At some point this week, would you all add a "spoiler" field to your character sheets called "Appearance" and fill it out with 2 things, a brief description of your figure and looks, clothing, gear, posture, whatever and a scale of 1-20 on how beautiful you think your character is in relation to your own kind. This can be rolled if you like, or set to however you wish to be. It's not critical, but I want a baseline for my own point of reference.

example:

Grunt the Human Npc

The dreaded Cetacea Mortis! He had heard tales of these glowing horrors eating a tribe of lizardfolk, if it chose to attack it would be a truly formidable battle, he tries not to raise his voice too much. "Many names and none, shiny green undead big fish are, I heard of one eat a village... my people call it Cetacea Mortis, Grauk no know name in common. Is undead like zombie, no one upset it and maybe it go away, but Grauk not think so." He tries not to make any sudden movements, if it decided to attack he'd be quite happy if it went after someone else first all things considered.

Bonus XP awarded for the name! Though XP is sort of freeform at the moment, I figure we'll level up at certain points in the plot, or when it 'feels' right. Hope that's acceptable

I just googled whales and started looking up the orders and suborders etc, picked one that sounded interesting and slapped Mortis onto the end but it works. I still just kept is as known amongst his people rather than you can look this up in the library kind of name.

hello all wanted to say hi before coming up with an intro in game.

may have to amend my back story some to be a more fluid fit but that should not be too hard.

hope my intro didn't cramp your style, it can always be 'not you' in there :)

its all good, had to run to dr. appointment (I need new glasses now, bifocals nonetheless)

I have been reading the gameplay to learn about the setting.

is there any information I would have for the party?

Eh, beauty is not something I'm terribly worried about with this particular character so....oh dice gods do your thing

Beauty: 1d20 ⇒ 16

>.>....welp, that'll be ok

I'll see what I can get you for fluff to pad along based on some past events you may have seen. And people met

Alright beauty here I come beauty +Charisma?: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (15) + 4 = 19

Ok beauty+charisma you say Krendec.

1d20 + 6 ⇒ (10) + 6 = 16

His scales hold almost hypnotically beautiful patterns, his yellow eyes with those black slits give him an imperious and confident stare. By all the gods new and old there's just something about him, he's got to have dragon blood running through those veins right? Crocodiles want him, alligators want to be him... both cold and warm blooded creatures agree.