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The guidelines for converting Pathfinder Society characters and adventures are located on the Lorespire Wiki.
In the course of play we expect that additional questions will arise and clarifications will need to be made. Please leave any questions in this thread; we will get answers out to you via this thread as well as regular updates to that wiki page.
Please try to keep this thread solely to leaving questions with as much information as possible; extended discussions should go to other threads and may be split off if they take over the thread.
Previous threads of interest:
- Pathfinder Society and the Remaster (blog & comments)
Venture-Captain, North Carolina—Central Region
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Various issues in the current language of the PFS Remaster Rules linked above:
1) Game Rules 1.3 says (as an "example") that monster abilities such as Grab are no longer automatic, instead allowing a free skill check. There is no such rule in Player Core nor GM Core. The rules were published in the (unsanctioned) Core Preview, and it will apparently appear in Monster Core, but does not exist yet.
The relevant monster abilities were updated in Rage of Elements as well, so the rules are already in print.
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Various issues in the current language of the PFS Remaster Rules linked above:
1) Game Rules 1.3 says (as an "example") that monster abilities such as Grab are no longer automatic, instead allowing a free skill check. There is no such rule in Player Core nor GM Core. The rules were published in the (unsanctioned) Core Preview, and it will apparently appear in Monster Core, but does not exist yet.
The new monster abilities (Grab, Knockdown, Push, etc) are available on Archive of Nethys.
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Organized Play Coordinator
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Are champion of gods that are now outside the sanctification (a redeemer of Pharasma) are still sanctified holy until the publication of player core 2?
From the wiki page:
Until a full list of deity sanctifications is published, any deity without published sanctification is treated as “can sanctify to holy.” Any champion may select any of the three Causes of Good from the Core Rulebook (Paladin, Liberator or Redeemer) regardless of deity.
I don't know offhand what Pharasma's sanctification entry is, but I know she has one, so you would follow that. A champion of, I dunno, Tlehar, would treat her sanctification as "can sanctify to holy" until Tlehar's official sanctification entry is published.
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The answer to this can be found in the newly reposted guide.
Until a full list of deity sanctifications is published, any deity without published sanctification is treated as “can sanctify to holy.” Any champion may select any of the three Causes of Good from the Core Rulebook (Paladin, Liberator or Redeemer) regardless of deity.
EDIT: Ninja'ed by Alex!
PS: I just read Pharasma's entry. Pharasma does not accept sanctification.
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Venture-Agent, New York—Albany
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I have a player trying to retrain into Field Agent. The guide states that field commission status can only be freely chosen at character creation, which to me means it cannot be changed after character creation. I would like clarification on this just to be sure. My response was to him was "I don't think so but I will look into it to be sure"
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The answer to this can be found in the newly reposted guide.
Until a full list of deity sanctifications is published, any deity without published sanctification is treated as “can sanctify to holy.” Any champion may select any of the three Causes of Good from the Core Rulebook (Paladin, Liberator or Redeemer) regardless of deity.EDIT: Ninja'ed by Alex!
PS: I just read Pharasma's entry. Pharasma does not accept sanctification.
So if i had a redeemer of Pharasma, i can't play it anymore.
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Organized Play Coordinator
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I have a character that is a Magus. Will there be a conversion document for Secrets of Magic such that I would be able to rebuild into this class if I desired to make him fully ORC compatible?
Not from us, no. The design team has expressed a desire publicly to issue errata to bring some classes in line with the remaster, but until they do so we can't provide any additional guidance.
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Organized Play Coordinator
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So if i had a redeemer of Pharasma, i can't play it anymore.The answer to this can be found in the newly reposted guide.
Until a full list of deity sanctifications is published, any deity without published sanctification is treated as “can sanctify to holy.” Any champion may select any of the three Causes of Good from the Core Rulebook (Paladin, Liberator or Redeemer) regardless of deity.EDIT: Ninja'ed by Alex!
PS: I just read Pharasma's entry. Pharasma does not accept sanctification.
That's not correct, per the bolded text in the quote. Nothing requires you to be sanctified to choose a Cause of Good.
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Venture-Agent, Ohio—Columbus
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It is my understanding that come Wednesday, only the healing potions in the enclosed chart are available for taking as freebie consumables (no more scrolls or other choices). Is that correct?
https://lorespire.paizo.com/tiki-index.php?page=pfs2guide._.Pathfinder%20Pr ovisions
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Venture-Agent, Ohio—Columbus
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Where is the list of the new Pathfinder Provisions? Has it been published yet?Now with unbroken links
I was fixing it and got the dreaded “backed up too far” message! :)
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The new monster abilities (Grab, Knockdown, Push, etc) are available on Archive of Nethys....
Now I'm extra confused. I did miss that the monster ability rules were actually published in RoE (in the Abilities Glossary, not mentioned in the Updated Rules sidebar), not merely previewed in the web pdf, but the monster abilities page on AoN still links to the original Bestiary version of Grab (etc). I've been using legacy Grab even after RoE was published; have I been running it wrong for three months?
Currently AoN has 2 separate listings for each.
Until Wednesday, monsters published in RoE use the RoE ones. Starting Wendesday, all monsters use the RoE ones.
Presumably when Monster Core comes out, the old ones will be updated to match the RoE ones.
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It is my understanding that come Wednesday, only the healing potions in the enclosed chart are available for taking as freebie consumables (no more scrolls or other choices). Is that correct?https://lorespire.paizo.com/tiki-index.php?page=pfs2guide._.Pathfinder%20Pr ovisionsOh that's much better than what I thought I saw before (I was on mobile). Thank you.
Just so people know:
"The list is not showing up nicely on mobile" (especially with device / browser information) is helpful feedback in the Guide thread.
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That's not correct, per the bolded text in the quote. Nothing requires you to be sanctified to choose a Cause of Good.So if i had a redeemer of Pharasma, i can't play it anymore.
PS: I just read Pharasma's entry. Pharasma does not accept sanctification.
There's a great description of how all this works in this Rules Lawyer Video about Alignment, Spirit Damage and Sanctification. I found it useful, and I hope you will too, Gayel.
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Fair, though in this case I think I was seeing the list in the one-page OrgPlay guide book, rather than a separate page too. I’ll need to see if there are two lists, because the one I was looking at first also didn’t have the unlife potions. Also usedul feedback, no doubt, but will require more delving (likely off-mobile) to nail down. Thanks for pointing out the thread though!It is my understanding that come Wednesday, only the healing potions in the enclosed chart are available for taking as freebie consumables (no more scrolls or other choices). Is that correct?https://lorespire.paizo.com/tiki-index.php?page=pfs2guide._.Pathfinder%20Pr ovisionsOh that's much better than what I thought I saw before (I was on mobile). Thank you.
Just so people know:
"The list is not showing up nicely on mobile" (especially with device / browser information) is helpful feedback in the Guide thread.
Currently there are two* lists. The old starting consumable lists. And the Pathfinder Provisions list that doesn't go into effect until tomorrow but which is up on the site so people can get a preview. It sounds like you got the starting consumables list. When we update the guide on Nov 15, there will only be 1 list.
*3 lists if you count the schools lists.
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Are we likely to see updated versions of various Faction boons affected by the Remaster?
I'm specifically looking at the Off-Hours Study boon & whether or not it will grant the Additional Lore feat.
Once you have expended 50 days of Downtime in this way, you learn the
chosen language or become trained in the chosen Lore skill.
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Organized Play Coordinator
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Are we likely to see updated versions of various Faction boons affected by the Remaster?
I'm specifically looking at the Off-Hours Study boon & whether or not it will grant the Additional Lore feat.
Once you have expended 50 days of Downtime in this way, you learn the
chosen language or become trained in the chosen Lore skill.
At some point, probably, but that's extremely low on my priority list.
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At some point, probably, but that's extremely low on my priority list.Are we likely to see updated versions of various Faction boons affected by the Remaster?
I'm specifically looking at the Off-Hours Study boon & whether or not it will grant the Additional Lore feat.
Once you have expended 50 days of Downtime in this way, you learn the
chosen language or become trained in the chosen Lore skill.
Mentioned it so that it would go onto the list.
Mission accomplished.
Venture-Captain, Michigan—Mt. Pleasant
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Just double checking on the Character Options. Say my rogue, I wasn't planning on updating to the Core chassis, but since the "You're Next" rogue feat changed in Player Core 1, I have to use that version now instead of the CRB version? (Not that I'm complaining since its better, but just verifying.)
Venture-Captain, Germany—Bavaria
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Just double checking on the Character Options. Say my rogue, I wasn't planning on updating to the Core chassis, but since the "You're Next" rogue feat changed in Player Core 1, I have to use that version now instead of the CRB version? (Not that I'm complaining since its better, but just verifying.)
If an option was updated, that counts as an errata, so just like the updated electric arc spell, the updated feat is the version to use, irrespective of rebuilding.
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Organized Play Coordinator
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The Character Options page has been updated, and the Remaster Guidelines page on Lorespire has also been updated with some removed items.
I'm going to call all of this "Version 1.0" of the PFS Remaster rules, and will notify here & in changelogs of future updates. You are now free to let us know about all the issues we missed!
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Probably 75% of my chronicles have been earned as the GM, and I have a ranger that I have been building up since January that has yet to actually be played despite just hitting 3rd level.
Does this mean that the character may continue as an "old" ranger, or does it need to be created as a brand new Player Core ranger?
(I haven't managed to read the new class yes, so I gave no idea what my preference will be.)
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Venture-Lieutenant, Alaska
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Probably 75% of my chronicles have been earned as the GM, and I have a ranger that I have been building up since January that has yet to actually be played despite just hitting 3rd level.
Does this mean that the character may continue as an "old" ranger, or does it need to be created as a brand new Player Core ranger?
(I haven't managed to read the new class yes, so I gave no idea what my preference will be.)
GM chronicles sounds like "at least 1 game reported" to me.
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Sebastian's correct, yes.What does this mean for Warrior Bard? I don't want to lose my Pathfinder training benefit, but viewing the Martial Performance feat as errata means that my class chassis loses the core function of being able to use martial weapon, because I don't get that from the remastered core class - essentially forcing a rebuild and losing features I have today due to the rebuild rules as written, or losing the ability for the character to function.
May be a specific thing that needs to be clarified.
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(Internal quotes removed) That's not correct, per the bolded text in the quote. Nothing requires you to be sanctified to choose a Cause of Good.The CRB errata page includes this:Is there a difference between being sanctified and being (un)holy? Is there a difference between taking a cause of good and accepting the tenets of good? I thought it was required.Page 106: Replace the tenets of good with the following text:
The Tenets of Good
You gain the holy trait and add that trait to any Strikes you make.
Symptom of Alex not actually reading the errata he was kindly given by the design team. Will have a look in the morning.
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Venture-Captain, California—Sacramento
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I am pretty sure from this post that the answer is "Yes", but there's apparently some debate about it:
If I create a character that is using a class from Player Core 2 after November 15, 2023, once Player Core 2 is released, do they get the Remaster Rebuild?The Lorespire Remaster page seems to indicate to some that only characters created with 1 session on them prior to November 15, 2023, if you read only the Rebuilding section; my contention is that the Rebuilding section is providing explicit instructions for the rebuild mentioned in the Character Options section. If the latter is accurate, can we remove the date mentioned in the Rebuilding section to prevent further debate?
More precisely, if a character's first game is after Nov 15th, but before player core 2 releases and the character has a class from player core 2, will it be possible to rebuild them.
(Use Case: New player builds Silver Dragon Rage Barbarian. 3 levels later, Player Core 2 drops, and he finds out he could have built an Adamantine Dragon Rage Barbarian if he had waited. Is he out of luck?)
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Venture-Captain, Kentucky—Lexington
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I am pretty sure from this post that the answer is "Yes", but there's apparently some debate about it:
If I create a character that is using a class from Player Core 2 after November 15, 2023, once Player Core 2 is released, do they get the Remaster Rebuild?The Lorespire Remaster page seems to indicate to some that only characters created with 1 session on them prior to November 15, 2023, if you read only the Rebuilding section; my contention is that the Rebuilding section is providing explicit instructions for the rebuild mentioned in the Character Options section. If the latter is accurate, can we remove the date mentioned in the Rebuilding section to prevent further debate?
From the original blog post, emphasis mine: "[N]o new characters may be created using the class chassis printed in the Core Rulebook if the class has been reprinted in the Player Core."
I would read that as 'if the class not in Player Core 1, the date doesn't apply.' You would still need to use any Remaster rules errata and PFS requirements (no schools, etc.), but you would still qualify for a rebuild once Player Core 2 comes out.