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"First Things First
First things first, there are still a few books coming for Starfinder 1st Edition. Starfinder Enhanced will be out in October. This is not a soft playtest of the new edition, but full of enhancements for your first edition characters. After that, there will be two more hardcover Adventure Paths: Scoured Stars and Mechageddon. These are the last books announced for first edition, but Thurston would not confirm that there aren’t any more coming.
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Speaking of Mechageddon, Jenny’s favorite mech is a swarm mech with little AI controlled bits and bobs that can be sent out to do limited things. Thurston’s is the clock mech that has too many numbers on its face.
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Now for 2nd Edition, it has been in the talks for years, but they have been trying to find the right time to bring it forward. It will be 100% compatible with Pathfinder 2nd edition and under the ORC license. This means there can be time travel shenanigans with gunslingers and operative snipers. This may have already been done with the development team.
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Thurston is super stoked about finally getting three action economy for the game so now the games will have parity and not always be one step behind each other. In fact, Jenny and Dustin Knight spent time with the Pathfinder Remaster team, helping them and working on the books. This means they have a great handle on the rules and can hit the ground running with 2nd edition.
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Field Testing at Gen Con
As of opening day of Gen Con, Field Testing has been started for 2nd edition. This is really a chance for Paizo to keep their fingers on the pulse of the community and to allow fans to see the process of how the game is made. Already changes have been made to feats in the Soldier class because they were named the same as feats from other classes. If you got your hands on the physical copy of the Field Test, it will be different than the PDF online.
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This is the most open playtest Paizo has put on and is a big behind the scenes on how your favorite games are made. They also promise to show some of their internal playtests and how they approach things. This could include blogs about their process and maybe streams of their playtests.
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“Gaming is about community. And by bringing the community into what we are doing, it’s going to make the product better,” said Thurston.
Changes Are Coming
Changes are coming. Not just by bringing Starfinder into the 2E engine, but narratively. Who are the big players? What lore needs updating? Are there places in the setting that need tweaking? This edition will allow them to lay a good foundation for the setting and drill down into the roots of it to bring more flavor into the setting.
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“The classes you will see will be unlike classes you’ve seen before," said Thurston. “The classes we are doing for Starfinder 2nd Edition are not just sci-fi versions of Pathfinder classes.” They will be adding domains for Starfinder deities, even though there are no classes in Starfinder that need them. Those will be for when you bring over your Pathfinder classes into Starfinder. This means you can play a cleric in space.
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Some other tidbits Thurston and Jenny shared:
Spellcasters will be happy to note that there will be up to tenth ranked spellcasters for cool space wizardry.
If Jenny has anything to say about it, mechs will find their way back into Starfinder eventually, just not in the near future.
Solarian’s will be taken in an interesting way where their abilities key off different attunements for different results depending on your attunement at the time.
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2024 will see the release of the Playtest rulebook to allow fans to playtest the game and help the team work out any of the kinks in the system. This will allow the community to be very involved in the process and fill out a feedback survey.
2025 is the planned release of the 2nd edition.
Spoiler exclusive for E.N. World from Thurston: They are going to blow up a planet in the Pact Worlds, for reasons Thurston wouldn’t disclose. There will be a new Pact World joining, just not in the Golarion system."
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This " might" be of interest here and helps with a few questions posed at this point in time for SF II.
Cheers
Tom
Wait, we're losing a planet?
Bye bye Castrovel…
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First reaction:
holy crap EN World is still a thing?
Second reaction:
“The classes you will see will be unlike classes you’ve seen before," said Thurston. “The classes we are doing for Starfinder 2nd Edition are not just sci-fi versions of Pathfinder classes.”
I wonder if this means "unlike the PF2 classes that already exist" or "unlike the SF classes that already exist".
Ive been assuming the core 6 field test classes were going to be 6 of the 7 CRB classes but maybe the last two that havent been confirmed yet are going to be entirely new?
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I guess Aucturn hatching would be same as it blowing up?
But yeah not sure I like idea of any of planets blowing up, that feels like... Well like treating planets same as single country or single city.
(I guess they could have chosen that Idari blew up in Devastation Ark?)
My money is on Triaxus because eff them dragons.
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Two planets already blown up, another one blowing up, one planet dead, one planet missing.
Pact Worlds sound like an awful place to live.
I'll probably ignore any metaplot so doesn't really affect my group, but blowing up a pact world mainly sounds like a good way to disappoint people.
My money is on Triaxus because eff them dragons.
I suppose the game hasn't done much with Triaxus so far, and PF is shifting what dragons are the focus.
I hope it's not Triaxus. I adore ryphorians and dragonkin and don't want them relegated away to homeless wanderers.
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I hope it's not Triaxus. I adore ryphorians and dragonkin and don't want them relegated away to homeless wanderers.
Unfortunately, every pact world planet is probably someone's favourite.
.... except maybe Liavara? Doesn't get touched on much because of the no civilizations.
I still like the idea of Aucturn hatching.
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I hope it's not Triaxus. I adore ryphorians and dragonkin and don't want them relegated away to homeless wanderers.Unfortunately, every pact world planet is probably someone's favourite.
.... except maybe Liavara? Doesn't get touched on much because of the no civilizations.
Liavara has the Dreamers and Space Whales and several active and interesting moons full of sentients.
I don't want to lose any of the planets. I love them all!
Thurston’s is the clock mech that has too many numbers on its face.
For some reason I had Shivaska on my list of potential demon lords as the boss of Mechageddon! (The aberration focus matching the colossi? Wishful thinking because she's cool and underused? Something else they dropped, like mention of an orphanage I've since forgotten?)
I'm going to take this as good evidence in her favor.
Honestly, Eox has had it coming for a long time.
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First reaction:
holy crap EN World is still a thing?Second reaction:
“The classes you will see will be unlike classes you’ve seen before," said Thurston. “The classes we are doing for Starfinder 2nd Edition are not just sci-fi versions of Pathfinder classes.”
I wonder if this means "unlike the PF2 classes that already exist" or "unlike the SF classes that already exist".
Ive been assuming the core 6 field test classes were going to be 6 of the 7 CRB classes but maybe the last two that havent been confirmed yet are going to be entirely new?
I think they're referring to the same process by which many of the PF2 classes became very different from their PF1 analogues.
For example:
-Two whole traditions of Magic were formed.
-The Bard became a full caster
- The Druid stopped being divine
- The Sorcerer got access to all four traditions
- The Ranger stopped being about better fighting against a type or in a terrain and started being about "be better at fighting the target you chose."
- The Barbarian absorbed a lot of Bloodrager stuff (like growing large, breathing fire)
- The Paladin became a subclass for the Champion
etc.
Even classes that mostly stayed similar got a lot more gonzo stuff at higher levels- e.g. Fighters can swat a dragon out of the sky and Rogues can steal armor off of someone who's wearing it.
The thing to keep in mind through this process is that Thematics (i.e. "what this class is supposed to be about") matter a lot more than Mechanics.
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Bye bye Castrovel…Wrong elves, Apostae is where Starfinder drow live.
No, Apostae apparently “isn’t going anywhere”. So, right elves, right planet.
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Well, there's a 1/10 chance it's Castrovel.
Personally, I think it's Verces but that's just vibes. It's the planet I'd blow up.
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Well, there's a 1/10 chance it's Castrovel.
Personally, I think it's Verces but that's just vibes. It's the planet I'd blow up.
I'm on Verces right now, and stopping it or at least the city we are in from blowing up does seem to be part of the mission. If we fail I might be partially to blame for it blowing up...
My character is also from Verces.
"they can't blow up Verces that's where I keep my stuff!"
Well, there's a 1/10 chance it's Castrovel.
Personally, I think it's Verces but that's just vibes. It's the planet I'd blow up.
Seriously, given some of the flavor in Pact Worlds I'd lay the bet on Akiton. They have a few unchecked research facilities that are trying to come up with ways to 'terraform' the planet (that people are worried about) plus whole bunches of other things going on AND the fact that the planet still has massive thasteron reserves (starship fuel) that are now getting renewed attention after the Drift Crisis.
Oh, right, and there's at least one First World chunk shoved into it last I heard, too.
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Well, there's a 1/10 chance it's Castrovel.
Personally, I think it's Verces but that's just vibes. It's the planet I'd blow up.
Seriously, given some of the flavor in Pact Worlds I'd lay the bet on Akiton. They have a few unchecked research facilities that are trying to come up with ways to 'terraform' the planet (that people are worried about) plus whole bunches of other things going on AND the fact that the planet still has massive thasteron reserves (starship fuel) that are now getting renewed attention after the Drift Crisis.
Oh, right, and there's at least one First World chunk shoved into it last I heard, too.
Whatever planet it is I don't think it will just be it blew up and then forgotten, it's got to have some kind of interesting after-effect that could be a major plot line for SF2e.
Well, we already know that Vesk-6, aka Pulonis, will be joining the Pact Worlds. Of course, that has massive implications we can only guess about for now.
I really hope they have a great story to back this up. It feels like a bit of a waste to get rid of a whole planet and I hope they really have a strong creative direction to take this in out the gate and it's not just a matter of 'we need a shocking story development for the new edition.'
When we actually learn more details hopefully my worries will be assuaged here, but on the surface nuking one of the fleshed out pact worlds and swapping in some new planet doesn't sound very appealing in terms of setting building to me. It doesn't leave me waiting with baited breath to see what happens so much as crossing my fingers that it's one of the planets I find relatively less interesting to me personally.
I really hope they have a great story to back this up. It feels like a bit of a waste to get rid of a whole planet and I hope they really have a strong creative direction to take this in out the gate and it's not just a matter of 'we need a shocking story development for the new edition.'
When we actually learn more details hopefully my worries will be assuaged here, but on the surface nuking one of the fleshed out pact worlds and swapping in some new planet doesn't sound very appealing in terms of setting building to me. It doesn't leave me waiting with baited breath to see what happens so much as crossing my fingers that it's one of the planets I find relatively less interesting to me personally.
It certainly sounds like they do and hey... this sounds suspiciously like something SF2's first adventure or even AP would be centered around.
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It certainly sounds like they do and hey... this sounds suspiciously like something SF2's first adventure or even AP would be centered around.
First for SF2 or last for SF1. Remember in the final AP of PF1 we lost an entire country (Lastwall.)
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Well, we already know that Vesk-6, aka Pulonis, will be joining the Pact Worlds. Of course, that has massive implications we can only guess about for now.
That could start a war too... or at least some big diplomatic headaches.
It's not like if the Ukraine joined NATO it's like Germany leaving the EU to join the US.