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This is a spoiler filled resource thread for part three of the Extinction Curse Adventure Path, Life's Long Shadows by Greg A Vaughan.
Other GM reference threads for Extinction Curse:
Part one, The Show Must Go On
Part two, Legacy of the Lost God
Part four, Siege of the Dinosaurs
Part five, Lord of the Black Sands
Part six, The Apocalypse Prophet
I'm kind of curious if Shoony will be put in a non-AP book. I'm also hoping whoever thought of the Blunt Snout racial ability gets a raise. I actually adore this new race, especially the art.
The new race is AWESOME! I know what I'm saving my PFS achievement points for now.
I'm liking that new Golem Grafter archetype from the book. I'm wondering how a PC would likely acquire it? In the past APs the archetypes added in that volume say where the PCs could gain access to it (for example the Turpin Rowe thrower they can get from members of that circus).
I think they are supposed to grab Golem Grafter from the room with the dwarf ghosts, or at the very least from interacting with that tower.
Chapter 4's treasure includes a vial of mnemonic acid (pg 54). I can't find this anywhere, in the books or in Nethys. Is this going to be released later, or was it just a typo?
As I'm slowly preparing the adventure for my players I ran into a little bit of confusion regarding The Wellspring Tower map. Where do the players come from?
And also, how do the players get to area C5 on the Second Tier? From the stairs on C4?
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Has anyone else had issues with getting the map of Oppar Vandy's house to work in VTT? I've spent over an hour trying to line up the grid, and at this point I am absolutely convinced that the map images in both the AP pdf and the Map pdf have variably sized squares. I even trimmed one down and resized the whole thing to have a width and height of 50px per square and it still didn't line up.
Has anyone else had issues with getting the map of Oppar Vandy's house to work in VTT? I've spent over an hour trying to line up the grid, and at this point I am absolutely convinced that the map images in both the AP pdf and the Map pdf have variably sized squares. I even trimmed one down and resized the whole thing to have a width and height of 50px per square and it still didn't line up.
to front this with: I love paizo APs, I am running this one starting sunday, I've run 3 previously.
I just finished up a Strange Aeons Campeign that ended up transitioning to roll20... i don;t know if it has to do with the paizo maps or the way roll20 imports the image, but every map from strange aeons i tried to import had varying sized grid squares across the map. I suspect maybe they aren't designed with directly importing the maps into a VTT in mind and the QA on the grid spacing for the art isn't held to that sort of standard.
Every map I’ve ever pulled from an AP hasn’t lived up perfectly. Eventually I just made the roll20 grid transparent and we all made peace with tokens being varying degrees of off-center on the map grid. It’s a bit frustrating on big maps but overall we don’t mind.
Has anyone else had issues with getting the map of Oppar Vandy's house to work in VTT? I've spent over an hour trying to line up the grid, and at this point I am absolutely convinced that the map images in both the AP pdf and the Map pdf have variably sized squares. I even trimmed one down and resized the whole thing to have a width and height of 50px per square and it still didn't line up.
I just set up that map.
You are right, the image has the wrong proportions. In order to make it right, I have to compress it's "hight" value. I can't tell you how much, because I was doing by trial and error... But if you are using FoundryVTT, I can tell you the numbers I used.
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I really enjoyed this module. The night hag haunting was fun to build up. I had her kill a member of the circus. She was this dark presence over the land. The random encounters were easy to work into the narrative and locations. The towers were fun providing some encounters to let AoE casters flex their power. It was a good mix of encounters that allowed casters and martials to both shine.
I'm not a big fan of the circus portion of this AP, so I've kept the circus in the background. It's not terribly done, but circuses are not my cup of tea. The narrative doesn't require the circus too much to be enjoyable. This story is much better connected than Age of Ashes. And xulgaths are interesting with unique powers and abilities.
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Glad you liked the variant xulgaths! They were a lot of fun to come up with :)
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On page 8 it says "their circus’s Prestige can’t exceed 16 in this adventure." then page 55 says "their Prestige cannot rise above 13 during this adventure" Any idea which is correct?
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Tanessa Fleer has some very low stats for a level 9 NPC and shares AC and saves with the mooks she is in encounter with, is this a typo for her stats?
The Headless Xulgath has the Choke Slam ability that lists a Fortitude save the target has to make but it doesn't list what happens as a result of that save.
It seems like it's probably the same as the Xulgath Spinesnapper in book 2, but I'm curious if there's supposed to be a different set of outcomes.
And the same thing for the Resin-Seep Xulgaths, they have Xulgath Bile which is an ability on the Xulgath Bilebearers from book 1.
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The text for confronting Thessekka in area F9 is confusing.
If the fight occurs at the Old Forest Tower, the xulgaths at area F8 emerge to defend her as soon as combat begins; three
xulgath arrive at the beginning of the second round, with three more emerging each round thereafter.
Does this mean all the xulgath in F8 emerge in the first round and then three more the second, three more each round after? There's only 5 xulgath in area F8. Do I pull xulgath from elsewhere in the tower? This would be pretty brutal given the ones running around the interior.
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She's already a Severe encounter, so that would be kind of mean. Maybe send in 2 xulgath skirmishers at the beginning of the second round, with 1 arriving each round thereafter, and Krarkgekkiss arriving last (or not at all, if the heroes are totally on the ropes).The text for confronting Thessekka in area F9 is confusing.
Does this mean all the xulgath in F8 emerge in the first round and then three more the second, three more each round after? There's only 5 xulgath in area F8. Do I pull xulgath from elsewhere in the tower? This would be pretty brutal given the ones running around the interior.If the fight occurs at the Old Forest Tower, the xulgaths at area F8 emerge to defend her as soon as combat begins; three
xulgath arrive at the beginning of the second round, with three more emerging each round thereafter.
I did 2 Xulgath skirmishers round 2, another pair in round 3, and then Karkgekkiss in round 4 and it worked really well to add weight to the encounter without overwhelming them.
As I read through Life's Long Shadows, I'm wondering if I'm missing something. Are the players meant to use the map on the gazetteer as they explore the surrounding areas of Kerrick? I can't quite figure out if it contains too much information, or the right amount of information for the area.
Thanks! That'll help me figure out how I can run the exploration bit.
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Has anyone added any custom info for the shoonys? Especially for Ferny. My players are suffering from exhaustion and want to spend a day there. Its easy enough to hand wave the day, but i was looking for something that would liven things up.
The PCs are
goblin rogue-sorcerer
halfling cleric-medic dedication
gnome giant barbarian
leshy druid-juggler archetype
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Would there be any major repercussions to just discarding the whole hag plotline? The idea of a sandbox adventure through bumblefudge nowhere to uncover the mystery of one dude's outstanding debt fills me with boredom.
My players wanted to stop the nightmares, as well as to take revenge because that girl that died.
If your players aren't invested and you don't mind, there is no repercussion whatsoever. Just remember to remove those things that mentions the Hag.
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This is not a big deal, but my players were confused by the fact that Dingo Dray seems to be wearing a baseball cap in the illustration at the beginning of chapter 4. Kind of looks like blue jeans, too. Is he a time traveler?
This is not a big deal, but my players were confused by the fact that Dingo Dray seems to be wearing a baseball cap in the illustration at the beginning of chapter 4. Kind of looks like blue jeans, too. Is he a time traveler?
Golarion isn't earth and might have developed jeans/baseball caps at some point over its massive history that might conflict with the order of how they were invented in our world. I'd say he's probably not a time traveler and is instead a fan because they help complete his lumberjack look.
Also that might be a different lumberjack in the festival than Dingo Dray, the rest of his named pictures have a pretty consistent look that's different from the chapter opening picture.
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Golarion isn't earth and might have developed jeans/baseball caps at some point over its massive history that might conflict with the order of how they were invented in our world.
Well, that's a good point. Still feels odd to me to see a baseball cap in a fantasy RPG, but it seems like these days people care less and less about that kind of thing.
Also that might be a different lumberjack in the festival than Dingo Dray, the rest of his named pictures have a pretty consistent look that's different from the chapter opening picture.
Hmmm... I guess that's possible. The lumberjack in the other two pictures also has a beard, a red flannel shirt and suspenders, but a different hat. Dingo's hair is redder than the guy in the chapter opening illustration. I still think it's supposed to be him though. :-)
What is the travel speed for the circus? As a party I know their travel speed on foot or maybe if they hired some mounts, but I'm not sure as a whole how fast everything goes with them. I assume it's slower than an average party. I can just say it's 15 feet and use the provided conversions in the handbook but wanted to check.
Yep, pretty dangerously costly. Though there is the chance for the party to recoup any losses by harvesting the teeth of the shuln, adamantine is quite valuable.
Really loving these towers. Our group started the Old Forest Tower backwards, by climbing up the outside between patrols and going down through the shaft at the top. We got badly mauled by the three hook-limbed xulgath in Thessekka's sanctum, and before we had the chance to lick our wounds and fix any wounded conditions, we heard the headless xulgath climbing up the shaft to reach us from the floor below. After discovering the hook-limbs' grab-an-edge reaction in the previous battle, the monk had intentionally strode adjacent to the lizards or performed a manipulate action like honking their noses, in order to draw their attack of opportunity and burn their reaction, then grapple and throw them down the shaft one at a time. While the landing at the bottom ate a huge chunk of their respective HP, it apparently got the attention of the four-armed behemoth, and he was on the verge of arriving once the fight had concluded.
Assisting each other to perform a single group action each round, the party barely managed to shove the stone alter in the room across the floor and into the shaft. It fell atop the beast inside and like a stone plunger, broke his grip and shoved him back down the shaft to the floor 150 feet below, whereupon he was sandwiched between the falling alter and the sharp crystal monolith at the center of the room, cleaving him in half.
Good times.
It is more of a GM think of a reason, in my case i had them being contacted by someone (representing Vandy) looking for a travelling circus for a tour in the Swardlands