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If you are playing a pregenerated character in a scenario in which all players are required to use pregenerated characters, you do not need to contribute to this minimum.
Now you're not quite so hosed if you are playing in an all-pregen game and someone decides to go "Leroy".
Still hosed for normal games, of course, because ... reasons.
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If you are playing a pregenerated character in a scenario in which all players are required to use pregenerated characters, you do not need to contribute to this minimum.Now you're not quite so hosed if you are playing in an all-pregen game and someone decides to go "Leroy".
Still hosed for normal games, of course, because ... reasons.
Rather than deal with a handful of apocryphal players, we engage on a community building exercise in the hopes that will address the issue?
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If you are playing a pregenerated character in a scenario in which all players are required to use pregenerated characters, you do not need to contribute to this minimum.Now you're not quite so hosed if you are playing in an all-pregen game and someone decides to go "Leroy".
Still hosed for normal games, of course, because ... reasons.
Just to be clear, not a game where everyone chooses to play a pregen, but one where you are forced to use a pregen and can never use your own character.
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"• The Roleplaying Guild character must contribute a minimum amount of gold to cover the costs before using any of the pregenerated character’s wealth, depending on the pregenerated character’s level: 0 gp for a 1st-level pregenerated character, 1,000 gp for 4th-level, and 2,000 gp for 7th-level."
Is this new?
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No; this was introduced in Guide 8.0. The exception for adventures that require pregens was introduced in a blog post, but this is the first time it's been in the Guide itself.Page 6, the first point about pregens...
"• The Roleplaying Guild character must contribute a minimum amount of gold to cover the costs before using any of the pregenerated character’s wealth, depending on the pregenerated character’s level: 0 gp for a 1st-level pregenerated character, 1,000 gp for 4th-level, and 2,000 gp for 7th-level."
Is this new?
But it seems that it's for any condition, blindness, deafness, curses and anything. And it's still very very strange and not the clearest how this plays out. I forget my Chronicles for my character lv2 and play a pregen lv7. My pregen character dies in a TPK and we don't get full gold. How do I resolve this? Is the 2000 due when I reach the pregen chronicle and it gets applied? Do I pay via the chronicle that I don't have with me? This was a question we had very soon after the last guide was out and I'm sad that it's still just as unclear how it works.
Also I'm sad that the pregen rules for tier didn't seem to change at all either, I felt like I was getting feedback from people saying the pregen rules would be more clear in this guide, and it's still just as unclear and saying nothing as it was before. Like while they prefer you use a lv4 pregen in a 4-5, I don't see anything saying you can't bring the lv1 pregen along for the party since it's a legal character for the scenario.
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No; this was introduced in Guide 8.0. The exception for adventures that require pregens was introduced in a blog post, but this is the first time it's been in the Guide itself.Page 6, the first point about pregens...
"• The Roleplaying Guild character must contribute a minimum amount of gold to cover the costs before using any of the pregenerated character’s wealth, depending on the pregenerated character’s level: 0 gp for a 1st-level pregenerated character, 1,000 gp for 4th-level, and 2,000 gp for 7th-level."
Is this new?
But it seems that it's for any condition, blindness, deafness, curses and anything. And it's still very very strange and not the clearest how this plays out. I forget my Chronicles for my character lv2 and play a pregen lv7. My pregen character dies in a TPK and we don't get full gold. How do I resolve this? Is the 2000 due when I reach the pregen chronicle and it gets applied? Do I pay via the chronicle that I don't have with me? This was a question we had very soon after the last guide was out and I'm sad that it's still just as unclear how it works.
Also I'm sad that the pregen rules for tier didn't seem to change at all either, I felt like I was getting feedback from people saying the pregen rules would be more clear in this guide, and it's still just as unclear and saying nothing as it was before. Like while they prefer you use a lv4 pregen in a 4-5, I don't see anything saying you can't bring the lv1 pregen along for the party since it's a legal character for the scenario.
As of last year's guide, you had to pay to resolve conditions of all types. There are some concerns about how this plays out; it's been hashed out before, and campaign leadership seems to have decided that they're okay with the downsides.
I think they have cleaned up the language on how to incorporate pregens in the calculations... to the extent they wanted to. I think they wanted to keep it a judgment call and not mandate a particular formula. I'm okay with that.
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As of last year's guide, you had to pay to resolve conditions of all types. There are some concerns about how this plays out; it's been hashed out before, and campaign leadership seems to have decided that they're okay with the downsides.
I think they have cleaned up the language on how to incorporate pregens in the calculations... to the extent they wanted to. I think they wanted to keep it a judgment call and not mandate a particular formula. I'm okay with that.
Leaving it as a judgment call for someone else, is a terrible idea. They really need to clear up the wording, even for pregens in a group of 3 players to make it legal. My lodge is flipping out that they'll need to split the costs three ways or play hot potato for the one player who'll have to pay out the cost. I've tried to explain that there should be zero cost to make it legal, but since it's clear, they don't believe me. Until it is, there's the risk of a table of three leaving out of fear.
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Leaving it as a judgment call for someone else, is a terrible idea. They really need to clear up the wording, even for pregens in a group of 3 players to make it legal. My lodge is flipping out that they'll need to split the costs three ways or play hot potato for the one player who'll have to pay out the cost. I've tried to explain that there should be zero cost to make it legal, but since it's clear, they don't believe me. Until it is, there's the risk of a table of three leaving out of fear.As of last year's guide, you had to pay to resolve conditions of all types. There are some concerns about how this plays out; it's been hashed out before, and campaign leadership seems to have decided that they're okay with the downsides.
I think they have cleaned up the language on how to incorporate pregens in the calculations... to the extent they wanted to. I think they wanted to keep it a judgment call and not mandate a particular formula. I'm okay with that.
If you're running a pregenerated character to fill out a table with only 3 players, that pregen doesn't belong to any particular player, even though one of them may be piloting it. So the players' own characters aren't at risk in that case.
It's only pregens that you run as a stand-in of your own character that carry the risk.
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If you're running a pregenerated character to fill out a table with only 3 players, that pregen doesn't belong to any particular player, even though one of them may be piloting it. So the players' own characters aren't at risk in that case.
It's only pregens that you run as a stand-in of your own character that carry the risk.
Now what if, in that situation one of the PCs die. Can the pregen's gear be sold to help pay to costs of coming back? If so, does that player have to spend gold out of pocket before they call sell off the pregen's gear?
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Rather than deal with a handful of apocryphal players, we engage on a community building exercise in the hopes that will address the issue?If you are playing a pregenerated character in a scenario in which all players are required to use pregenerated characters, you do not need to contribute to this minimum.Now you're not quite so hosed if you are playing in an all-pregen game and someone decides to go "Leroy".
Still hosed for normal games, of course, because ... reasons.
As it's early and I still have too much blood in my caffeine stream, I'm not sure if I should applaud your optimism or acknowledge the sardonic humor of that statement. Please accept whichever you feel most appropriate.
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Now what if, in that situation one of the PCs die. Can the pregen's gear be sold to help pay to costs of coming back? If so, does that player have to spend gold out of pocket before they call sell off the pregen's gear?If you're running a pregenerated character to fill out a table with only 3 players, that pregen doesn't belong to any particular player, even though one of them may be piloting it. So the players' own characters aren't at risk in that case.
It's only pregens that you run as a stand-in of your own character that carry the risk.
Pregen gear has never been allowed to be used for paying for a PC condition clearing. The new rules don't change that.
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As of last year's guide, you had to pay to resolve conditions of all types. There are some concerns about how this plays out; it's been hashed out before, and campaign leadership seems to have decided that they're okay with the downsides.
What downsides? My question is, "How is this supposed to work?" Is the downside they are okay with not having anyone know the correct way to implement it?
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I'm unclear as to what's unclear on how to implement it. Seems pretty clear to me.
I forget my Chronicles for my character lv2 and play a pregen lv7. My pregen character dies in a TPK and we don't get full gold (like we only get 1000). How do I resolve this? Is the 2000 due when I reach the pregen chronicle and it gets applied? Do I pay via the chronicle that I don't have with me? Do I only have this one chronicle to work with and require assistance from the party to not just die?
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I don't think you've ever been allowed to sell the GM pregen's gear to resolve a condition on an actual character. Only on the pregen.
Can someone find a ruling for that? I've never seen it explicitly stated and I've seen instances of them being treated just like other PCs at the table when it came to helping to pay for costs.
While I think there needs to be some sort of limit to it, if this is the case where they cannot contribute at all, then it seems that around level 7 a table of 3 would be better off just all playing pregens. That way a death only costs that PC alone 2000 gp rather than the 8010 gp (raise dead plus 2 restorations) divided some way among the 3 players at the table.
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I'm unclear as to what's unclear on how to implement it. Seems pretty clear to me.I forget my Chronicles for my character lv2 and play a pregen lv7. My pregen character dies in a TPK and we don't get full gold (like we only get 1000). How do I resolve this? Is the 2000 due when I reach the pregen chronicle and it gets applied? Do I pay via the chronicle that I don't have with me? Do I only have this one chronicle to work with and require assistance from the party to not just die?
Well a level 2 character can't be raised anyways, because a loss of 2 negative levels kills them.
That aside, its pretty clear.
1) If you forget your chronicles, you can't play that character in the first place, so that's a non-issue. But assuming your GM is being lenient and lets you play anyways (which most do, rightly--the first time or occasionally as long as it doesn't become habit)...
2) you can use the 1,000gp you get on the current chronicle sheet you just earned.
3) The remaining must come off the character, and if that character doesn't have the gold, they are marked as permanently dead. Not sure why you think you might not be able to use any wealth that character has. Again, if you forget your chronicles, then you shouldn't have been playing that character in the first place.
4) All conditions or ramifications of not clearing the conditions (being marked permanently dead) must be applied before the end of teh scenario. Its never been, and I am pretty sure the guide covers this still, that you get to wait until the character reaches the level of the pregen when the chronicle would be applied.
I'm unclear why corner cases like this, that actually have different rules that would solve the problem (like you can't play if you don't have your chronicles with you) must be spelled out in these rules.
Once someone is playing a 2nd level character, we aren't really worried about walk-in newbies (which an organizer and GM should go out of their way to accommodate a newbie as best they can, even if it bends the rules a little bit.) If the player can't come prepared either knowing what character they want to assign the pregen to, or bring their binder of characters, or have access to digital chronicles from drop box or another app, then that isn't the fault of the guide or the GM.
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I don't think you've ever been allowed to sell the GM pregen's gear to resolve a condition on an actual character. Only on the pregen.Can someone find a ruling for that? I've never seen it explicitly stated and I've seen instances of them being treated just like other PCs at the table when it came to helping to pay for costs.
While I think there needs to be some sort of limit to it, if this is the case where they cannot contribute at all, then it seems that around level 7 a table of 3 would be better off just all playing pregens. That way a death only costs that PC alone 2000 gp rather than the 8010 gp (raise dead plus 2 restorations) divided some way among the 3 players at the table.
Well other than the fact that you are playing largely considered inferior characters that are not your character.
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I'm unclear as to what's unclear on how to implement it. Seems pretty clear to me.I forget my Chronicles for my character lv2 and play a pregen lv7. My pregen character dies in a TPK and we don't get full gold (like we only get 1000). How do I resolve this? Is the 2000 due when I reach the pregen chronicle and it gets applied? Do I pay via the chronicle that I don't have with me? Do I only have this one chronicle to work with and require assistance from the party to not just die?Well a level 2 character can't be raised anyways, because a loss of 2 negative levels kills them.
I don't understand. You're not playing the lv2, you're playing the lv7 and it died. Is the rule that we are supposed to apply the conditions to the character receiving the credit?
That aside, its pretty clear.
1) If you forget your chronicles, you can't play that character in the first place, so that's a non-issue. But assuming your GM is being lenient and lets you play anyways (which most do, rightly--the first time or occasionally as long as it doesn't become habit)...
Forgetting the chronicles is the reason why you're playing a pregen. Is it a rule that you need the chronicles there of the character you'd be applying the pregen credit to?
2) you can use the 1,000gp you get on the current chronicle sheet you just earned.
Right, but the lv7 pregen status requires you spend 2000 before you can sell the pregen gear, thus the 1000 you received isn't enough to cover the entire cost.
3) The remaining must come off the character, and if that character doesn't have the gold, they are marked as permanently dead. Not sure why you think you might not be able to use any wealth that character has. Again, if you forget your chronicles, then you shouldn't have been playing that character in the first place.
I've always heard that if you forget your chronicles you're required to play a pregen to play, but I've never heard that you need the chronicles of the character you're going to be applying the credit to.
4) All conditions or ramifications of not clearing the conditions (being marked permanently dead) must be applied before the end of the scenario. It's never been, and I am pretty sure the guide covers this still, that you get to wait until the character reaches the level of the pregen when the chronicle would be applied.
But this doesn't seem to make sense, if the credit boons, and gold received isn't applied till the character reaches the level of the pregen why would the status be applied immediately to your actual character?
I'm unclear why corner cases like this, that actually have different rules that would solve the problem (like you can't play if you don't have your chronicles with you) must be spelled out in these rules.
Well it's because I'm unaware of any rule that says you need your chronicles to apply credit for the pregen. Thus the idea would be that it'd be likely that you'd be applying the credit to a character that you don't have the chronicles for since you'd need to play a pregen since you don't have your chronicles.
Once someone is playing a 2nd level character, we aren't really worried about walk-in newbies (which an organizer and GM should go out of their way to accommodate a newbie as best they can, even if it bends the rules a little bit.) If the player can't come prepared either knowing what character they want to assign the pregen to, or bring their binder of characters, or have access to digital chronicles from drop box or another app, then that isn't the fault of the guide or the GM.
They did come knowing which character they wanted to assign the pregen to, they just don't have their chronicles. If there's a rule that says you need your chronicles in order to assign it as the character for the pregen then that part goes away, but I'm unaware of any such rule.
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Well other than the fact that you are playing largely considered inferior characters that are not your character.I don't think you've ever been allowed to sell the GM pregen's gear to resolve a condition on an actual character. Only on the pregen.Can someone find a ruling for that? I've never seen it explicitly stated and I've seen instances of them being treated just like other PCs at the table when it came to helping to pay for costs.
While I think there needs to be some sort of limit to it, if this is the case where they cannot contribute at all, then it seems that around level 7 a table of 3 would be better off just all playing pregens. That way a death only costs that PC alone 2000 gp rather than the 8010 gp (raise dead plus 2 restorations) divided some way among the 3 players at the table.
Personally, with a lot of characters I've seen people build/play and how good the ACG and later pregens are, I'd be happier to see them pull out a pregen than their character. The ACG and later pregens are all really solidly made and do their thing quite well.
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I don't understand. You're not playing the lv2, you're playing the lv7 and it died. Is the rule that we are supposed to apply the conditions to the character receiving the credit?I'm unclear as to what's unclear on how to implement it. Seems pretty clear to me.I forget my Chronicles for my character lv2 and play a pregen lv7. My pregen character dies in a TPK and we don't get full gold (like we only get 1000). How do I resolve this? Is the 2000 due when I reach the pregen chronicle and it gets applied? Do I pay via the chronicle that I don't have with me? Do I only have this one chronicle to work with and require assistance from the party to not just die?Well a level 2 character can't be raised anyways, because a loss of 2 negative levels kills them.
Yes.
Forgetting the chronicles is the reason why you're playing a pregen. Is it a rule that you need the chronicles there of the character you'd be applying the pregen credit to?That aside, its pretty clear.
1) If you forget your chronicles, you can't play that character in the first place, so that's a non-issue. But assuming your GM is being lenient and lets you play anyways (which most do, rightly--the first time or occasionally as long as it doesn't become habit)...
In this case, to be player-friendly, resolve the issue at another time. Either with the GM or a VO (or do your best to follow the honor system and resolve it when you get home--when I was VL and VC I would have most likely just trusted people to handle it correctly when they got home after giving the instructions on what they needed to do.)
2) you can use the 1,000gp you get on the current chronicle sheet you just earned.Right, but the lv7 pregen status requires you spend 2000 before you can sell the pregen gear, thus the 1000 you received isn't enough to cover the entire cost.
My quote still stands. You use the gold that the character you've assigned the credit to already has. If you don't know what that is for whatever reasons, then you handle it as I noted above.
3) The remaining must come off the character, and if that character doesn't have the gold, they are marked as permanently dead. Not sure why you think you might not be able to use any wealth that character has. Again, if you forget your chronicles, then you shouldn't have been playing that character in the first place.I've always heard that if you forget your chronicles you're required to play a pregen to play, but I've never heard that you need the chronicles of the character you're going to be applying the credit to.
I did not consider this very reasonable and probably common reason why you might be playing a pregen. As such, please rescind my comment that the chronicles of the assigned character must always be present. In the case that something untoward happens, just handle it the next time you have the chronicles and you are with your GM or VO (or they tell you to handle it at home cause they trust you.)
But this doesn't seem to make sense, if the credit boons, and gold received isn't applied till the character reaches the level of the pregen why would the status be applied immediately to your actual character?
4) All conditions or ramifications of not clearing the conditions (being marked permanently dead) must be applied before the end of the scenario. It's never been, and I am pretty sure the guide covers this still, that you get to wait until the character reaches the level of the pregen when the chronicle would be applied.
Because that's the way it works. That's why you need to resolve the condition immediately. That's the way that the leadership team set it up. If you can't resolve the pregen death immediately, then your character is dead. You don't get to play until the chronicle would be applied then resolve. The rule is pretty clear on this one.
Well it's because I'm unaware of any rule that says you need your chronicles to apply credit for the pregen. Thus the idea would be that it'd be likely that you'd be applying the credit to a character that you don't have the chronicles for since you'd need to play a pregen since you don't have your chronicles.
I'm unclear why corner cases like this, that actually have different rules that would solve the problem (like you can't play if you don't have your chronicles with you) must be spelled out in these rules.
I apologize, I erroneously made that claim. Just handle it later. Its perfectly reasonable for a GM or VO to trust that you'll follow the honor system and handle it appropriately at home, or for them to ask you to bring the relevant documents the next time you see them or the next time you wish to play the character to get the resolution codified on a chronicle.
They did come knowing which character they wanted to assign the pregen to, they just don't have their chronicles. If there's a rule that says you need your chronicles in order to assign it as the character for the pregen then that part goes away, but I'm unaware of any such rule.
Once someone is playing a 2nd level character, we aren't really worried about walk-in newbies (which an organizer and GM should go out of their way to accommodate a newbie as best they can, even if it bends the rules a little bit.) If the player can't come prepared either knowing what character they want to assign the pregen to, or bring their binder of characters, or have access to digital chronicles from drop box or another app, then that isn't the fault of the guide or the GM.
See above.
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Personally, with a lot of characters I've seen people build/play and how good the ACG and later pregens are, I'd be happier to see them pull out a pregen than their character. The ACG and later pregens are all really solidly made and do their thing quite well.Well other than the fact that you are playing largely considered inferior characters that are not your character.I don't think you've ever been allowed to sell the GM pregen's gear to resolve a condition on an actual character. Only on the pregen.Can someone find a ruling for that? I've never seen it explicitly stated and I've seen instances of them being treated just like other PCs at the table when it came to helping to pay for costs.
While I think there needs to be some sort of limit to it, if this is the case where they cannot contribute at all, then it seems that around level 7 a table of 3 would be better off just all playing pregens. That way a death only costs that PC alone 2000 gp rather than the 8010 gp (raise dead plus 2 restorations) divided some way among the 3 players at the table.
You know, if someone enjoys playing pregens rather than the character they built themselves... then more power to them.
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But it seems that it's for any condition, blindness, deafness, curses and anything. And it's still very very strange and not the clearest how this plays out. I forget my Chronicles for my character lv2 and play a pregen lv7. My pregen character dies in a TPK and we don't get full gold. How do I resolve this? Is the 2000 due when I reach the pregen chronicle and it gets applied? Do I pay via the chronicle that I don't have with me? This was a question we had very soon after the last guide was out and I'm sad that it's still just as unclear how it works.No; this was introduced in Guide 8.0. The exception for adventures that require pregens was introduced in a blog post, but this is the first time it's been in the Guide itself.Page 6, the first point about pregens...
"• The Roleplaying Guild character must contribute a minimum amount of gold to cover the costs before using any of the pregenerated character’s wealth, depending on the pregenerated character’s level: 0 gp for a 1st-level pregenerated character, 1,000 gp for 4th-level, and 2,000 gp for 7th-level."
Is this new?
Not really, it is clarified in the guide. The PC's share comes off the new chronicle sheet.
"The character can use the gold and prestige that she
has earned on the Chronicle sheet for the current
adventure to help pay for condition removal."
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I'm unclear as to what's unclear on how to implement it. Seems pretty clear to me.
I forget my Chronicles for my character lv2 and play a pregen lv7. My pregen character dies in a TPK and we don't get full gold (like we only get 1000). How do I resolve this? Is the 2000 due when I reach the pregen chronicle and it gets applied? Do I pay via the chronicle that I don't have with me? Do I only have this one chronicle to work with and require assistance from the party to not just die?
Well a level 2 character can't be raised anyways, because a loss of 2 negative levels kills them.
I don't understand. You're not playing the lv2, you're playing the lv7 and it died. Is the rule that we are supposed to apply the conditions to the character receiving the credit?
Yes.
Wait. What?!
There are a lot of Tier 7 - 11 adventures that are pretty deadly, and access to raise dead / Breath of Life / Gloves of Healing is part of the environment. What you're saying is that if the 7th-level pre-gen dies during the adventure and gets raised, even if the negative levels are resolved for the 7th-level pre-gen, the 2nd-level PC receives the conditions, and dies permanently, because she can't endure the two negative levels.
That's, well, it's a breath-taking rule.
And it's not listed anywhere in print.
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Incidentally, Chess Pwn noted that the adventure was a TPK, which means that the pre-gen is going to need to spend 5 PP for body retrieval. How is that supposed to work? Can the 2nd-level PC pay for the body retrieval? (It's not a condition.)
Can a 2nd-level PC pay 2 PP to supply the 7th-level pre-gen with a magic item?
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But it seems that it's for any condition, blindness, deafness, curses and anything. And it's still very very strange and not the clearest how this plays out. I forget my Chronicles for my character lv2 and play a pregen lv7. My pregen character dies in a TPK and we don't get full gold. How do I resolve this? Is the 2000 due when I reach the pregen chronicle and it gets applied? Do I pay via the chronicle that I don't have with me? This was a question we had very soon after the last guide was out and I'm sad that it's still just as unclear how it works.No; this was introduced in Guide 8.0. The exception for adventures that require pregens was introduced in a blog post, but this is the first time it's been in the Guide itself.Page 6, the first point about pregens...
"• The Roleplaying Guild character must contribute a minimum amount of gold to cover the costs before using any of the pregenerated character’s wealth, depending on the pregenerated character’s level: 0 gp for a 1st-level pregenerated character, 1,000 gp for 4th-level, and 2,000 gp for 7th-level."
Is this new?
Not really, it is clarified in the guide. The PC's share comes off the new chronicle sheet.
"The character can use the gold and prestige that she
has earned on the Chronicle sheet for the current
adventure to help pay for condition removal."
I'm pretty sure you get to use your assigned character's existing gold. Otherwise, if not enough cash was earned in the adventure and not enough gold is earned by selling the Pregen's gear, you can't get a raise at all.
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I'm unclear as to what's unclear on how to implement it. Seems pretty clear to me.I forget my Chronicles for my character lv2 and play a pregen lv7. My pregen character dies in a TPK and we don't get full gold (like we only get 1000). How do I resolve this? Is the 2000 due when I reach the pregen chronicle and it gets applied? Do I pay via the chronicle that I don't have with me? Do I only have this one chronicle to work with and require assistance from the party to not just die?Well a level 2 character can't be raised anyways, because a loss of 2 negative levels kills them.I don't understand. You're not playing the lv2, you're playing the lv7 and it died. Is the rule that we are supposed to apply the conditions to the character receiving the credit?Yes.Wait. What?!
There are a lot of Tier 7 - 11 adventures that are pretty deadly, and access to raise dead / Breath of Life / Gloves of Healing is part of the environment. What you're saying is that if the 7th-level pre-gen dies during the adventure and gets raised, even if the negative levels are resolved for the 7th-level pre-gen, the 2nd-level PC receives the conditions, and dies permanently, because she can't endure the two negative levels.
That's, well, it's a breath-taking rule.
And it's not listed anywhere in print.
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Incidentally, Chess Pwn noted that the adventure was a TPK, which means that the pre-gen is going to need to spend 5 PP for body retrieval. How is that supposed to work? Can the 2nd-level PC pay for the body retrieval? (It's not a condition.)
Can a 2nd-level PC pay 2 PP to supply the 7th-level pre-gen with a magic item?
When it comes to clearing conditions, you treat it as though the condition applies to the assigned character. In this case, any resource the assigned character has can be used to help alleviate the gold expenditure, including spending PP for body retrieval.
A pregen can't use the assigned character's resources at all prior to or during the adventure.
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I'm pretty sure you get to use your assigned character's existing gold. Otherwise, if not enough cash was earned in the adventure and not enough gold is earned by selling the Pregen's gear, you can't get a raise at all.But it seems that it's for any condition, blindness, deafness, curses and anything. And it's still very very strange and not the clearest how this plays out. I forget my Chronicles for my character lv2 and play a pregen lv7. My pregen character dies in a TPK and we don't get full gold. How do I resolve this? Is the 2000 due when I reach the pregen chronicle and it gets applied? Do I pay via the chronicle that I don't have with me? This was a question we had very soon after the last guide was out and I'm sad that it's still just as unclear how it works.No; this was introduced in Guide 8.0. The exception for adventures that require pregens was introduced in a blog post, but this is the first time it's been in the Guide itself.Page 6, the first point about pregens...
"• The Roleplaying Guild character must contribute a minimum amount of gold to cover the costs before using any of the pregenerated character’s wealth, depending on the pregenerated character’s level: 0 gp for a 1st-level pregenerated character, 1,000 gp for 4th-level, and 2,000 gp for 7th-level."
Is this new?
Not really, it is clarified in the guide. The PC's share comes off the new chronicle sheet.
"The character can use the gold and prestige that she
has earned on the Chronicle sheet for the current
adventure to help pay for condition removal."
Ah, I misread what you were saying and thought you meant it was unclear what happened if you had gold on the earned sheet, but didn't have your previous chronicles. If you got TPKed so early that you didn't get 2000 gold on a 7th level chronicle, and don't have the 6 PP to pay it off, that would get sticky. But the rule is meant to make death rare, not make death never happen.
Side Note. I am pretty sure they fixed the "No raise dead for 2nd level characters" in the FAQ or CC.
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Well a level 2 character can't be raised anyways, because a loss of 2 negative levels kills them.
Side Note. I am pretty sure they fixed the "No raise dead for 2nd level characters" in the FAQ or CC.
In theory (and assuming they can afford it) a 2nd level character could survive if a restoration spell was cast on them the round following the raise (which would require very careful & coordinated timing).
I didn't see any FAQ's or Campaign Clarifications, but John did say he would have someone look into it a few years ago. That's the last I've seen on this topic for PFS.