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So where was Ray's brother? Or that alarm system just like the one at Vandal Savage's place?
It was odd that they would mention his brother Sidney in that very episode, and then make it seem like Ray was an only child, when they visited his childhood home.
Wow, I didn't even think about the new character's comic book name, Isis, and how it might not really fly in the current climate. And so, she's 'Z.' Meh.
I know someone at work who named her newborn daughter Isis a few years before the whole Islamic State stuff blew up, and she's just about sick of explaining to people that she didn't name her kid after a terrorist group. :)
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That was a shock.
Almost as big as Sara not getting it on with a Queen. (Helen was queen of Sparta before she ran off to Troy. Side note: she was also an excuse. The war was about $. Troy controlled the other end of the Bosporus. Since Byzantium wasn't founded yet, they controlled trade into the Black Sea.)
Edit: That CGI set. And the timing. How well does the set resemble the movie one? (As a mega fan of the character, I refused to watch that movie.) Easily a shout out to promote the Justice League.
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So, you got everyone back together. You are on the Waverider, and you are prepping for the final fight.
Why don't you hop over to Earth-38 for Clark and J'ohn; Earth-2 for Jessie; and Earth-3 for Jay?
Besides, budget.
This also would have been a good opportunity to reveal what happened to Ronnie. For multiple reasons.
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Actor availability may also have been a thing. As it was, they did fine. (Also it might have been foolish to bring over Clark, since he's a relative of Kara's and they might target him instead.
On Stein, I really really thought when Jax bonded with him for the last time, Stein would die and remain as the ghost in Jax's head, much as he was in Ronnie's in one or two of other continuities. Honestly thought otherwise it was bizarre to kill him off when they already seemed to have a solid plan for putting him on a bus.
Also I wasn't crying, YOU were crying.
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[speculation, not spoilers] I had speculated that if Stein and Jax ever separated for good, the Firestorm matrix could continue to exist independently of them, forming a new body for itself, that of Ronnie Raymond, who was somehow still 'alive' in some sort of quantum state within the matrix. But that would require the actor to be available and willing, and the writers to be willing to add another body to the already crowded crew of the Waverider. [/speculation, not spoilers]
Gosh, they really went nuts with the effects. Firestorm, Killer Frost making ice slides, etc., etc.
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Citizen Cold & Ray kicking ass and taking names while openly adoring each other. I loved this.
Whole Crisis on Earth-X was such a hoot. Real stakes, really good emotional stuff that made me feel feelings I'm not ready talk about and kickin' superhero action.
So many characters, but everyone got some cool moments. Too bad some where missing the action (Kid Flash you were so cool in the first ep) but still, really good superhero tv. More of this please.
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I've been wondering when he was going to show up.
And, having changed nights this season already, Legends in changing again. And is coming back a month later. I thought they got a full season this year?
Either Mollus or Darkh is deliberately messing with their personal timelines.
And apparently Stein's house and family were virtually unchanged in alternate-92.
phantom1592 |
Bjorn,
It's divination. It's way more useful than figuring out if an item is magic. ;)
Regardless, now we have Citizen Cold AND Constantine. That's a nice trade off for Firestorm....almost.
Agreed. Constantine has the 'WIZARDS!!!!' excuse for anything they want him to do.
As for Firestorm? I was pretty annoyed with Jax this episode... until Constantine showed up. I had frankly forgotten he was going to be on this show, and he made everything better ^_^
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Phantom,
Not sure it's an excuse so much as a way for the writers to explain things.
And yes John Constantine doesn't play well with others. But until we get Firestorm back or some how get something of his caliber (Captain Atom maybe?) it's kind of hard to see how they can do much more.
Especially against other magic people.
phantom1592 |
Phantom,
Not sure it's an excuse so much as a way for the writers to explain things.
And yes John Constantine doesn't play well with others. But until we get Firestorm back or some how get something of his caliber (Captain Atom maybe?) it's kind of hard to see how they can do much more.
Especially against other magic people.
OOooohhh yeah, I was so excited about Constantine I forgot all about Dahrk! That will be some fun stuff there.
As for working with a team?? The legends are a whole team made of people who aren't good in a group. Most of the Legends should still be a LITTLE concerned that Mick won't kill them all in their sleep some day.
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As for working with a team?? The legends are a whole team made of people who aren't good in a group. Most of the Legends should still be a LITTLE concerned that Mick won't kill them all in their sleep some day.
In Constantine's case it's not only being an abrasive loner jerk, it's the fact that his friends and companions have a disturbing tendency to die horrible deaths.
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If you could convert vandal savage over to a good guy and pair him up with John you'd have a perfect partner.
John: Hey van (he calls him Van) I need a blood sacrifice.
Savage: Again?
You know this is the part of the season where I start to lose interest in all the Cdoub shows except legends. All the others are now doing the depressing slow build up to the finale which will fix all the problems they've accrued. which is typically overly dark and depressing which wouldn't be so bad but its drawn across like 6 episodes. Legends manages not to make me miserable for the duration at least. Their character are so less drama. They remind me of a DnD party. diplomacy isn't working can we just beat it up?...and set it on fire..
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I should have added that until the ending, I really enjoyed the episode. Nate was at a dosage level I could manage. Everyone else was good. Mick was amazing. John Constantine was a great guest star. Sara was awesome.
(Also, the second sentence of my above post should say, "She accepted what happened waaaay too easily..." my phone was not cooperating.)
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Generally good but for one thing: I'm concerned that John gave the impression he just goes around performing exorcisms, like in that blasphemous movie. While he can do exorcisms, that's just one of the things he does, and not the most interesting. I'm surprised he even thought a Christian exorcism performed by him would work.
Other than that, he smoked, tried to drink, was snarky and seduced a lesbian: pretty accurate.
Thomas Seitz |
Bjorn,
Eh. 95% John Constantine is better than 25% John Constantine that looked like he was dropped out of the Matrix.
I agree it was a little cop out for Nora to join up with Dad, but...it IS her Dad. So it's not a complete cop out. Plus if they HAD stopped Damien from being resurrected, THEN maybe they could have changed the timeline.
Joel,
John's slated to do to two more episodes. What I'm curious about where Wally will join up and if the Speed Force can handle magic. Also I had doubts John would join the crew full time, mostly because he's not a team sort of guy. In any sense. If nothing else, maybe down the line, Legends will spin us off to Justice League Dark.
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