Anyone else feel a bit saturated with CWverse shows? Somehow both Legends and Supergirl just made the whole thing too much for me. With the exception of Arrow this season, I keep feeling diminished enjoyment from watching them.
Legends didn't bother me too much... but Supergirl really seemed redundant this season. The whole 'one main hero surrounded by their team of quirky lesser heroes in their secret sci-fi base with the teenage quality love interests, the nerdy computer person, the tough and silent guy with the heart of gold and whatever other obvious parallels you want to draw between Team Arrow, Team Flash and now Team Supergirl...
That really hit me hard this season... Legends has it's own painfully stupid aspects... but I don't feel the 'Take the same team and throw different costumes on them' like I do with the other three. It still feels somewhat unique amongst this herd.
Phantom,
Probably because so far Firestorm hasn't had to fight in and around his ACTUAL weight class.
Also like you said, Supergirl should be fighting more powerful beings but it seems like they still want kitsch. Which I don't necessarily need. But we'll see how this season ends. I have...lowered expectations. But hopefully more Tyler Hoelin(sp) Superman will help.
They are spread out where I am: Mon-Supergirl, Tues-Flash/Legends, Weds-Arrow...
yeah...I am actually kind of happy Legends is done for the year and the shows are on temporary hiatus. While AoS and IZombie are also technically comic book shows, they have a much different feel from the CW shows and from each other.
They are spread out where I am: Mon-Supergirl, Tues-Flash/Legends, Weds-Arrow...Legends and Flash on Tues isn't spread out. CW was very close to my having to drop Legends when they pulled that. Because I'm not dropping SHIELD, and I can only record two shows simultaneously. (x:57-X+1:03 and X+1:57-X+2:03 where X is a primetime hour are simultaneous.)
Having shows on Mon, Tues, Wends, is pretty spread out. It used to be M/T/W/Th but Riverdale kind of screwed that up and legends lost it TH spot and was bumped to Tuesday..
Honestly I'm a little surprised they ARE as spread out as they are... They used to try to combine genre's and spinoffs on the same day. Things like Supernatural and Vampire Diaries... and then Vampire Diaries and the Originals back to back...
I think when Black Lightning shows up, we'll probably have that on Thursdays and move some other shows around.
But I do agree that having TWO CW/Arrowverse shows back to back can be stressful for those of watching other comic inspired shows.
I'm hoping Riverdale is a one season and done thing. It's really dragging something fierce and doesn't feel like it has the legs for a second season.
Phantom,
It might be. I dunno. I never thought One Tree Hill would last as long as it did...
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I read that Riverdale is planning a season two that could feature Sabrina the Teenage Witch, and possibly supernatural zombies from the other side of the river, making it more of a genre show, and following in the recent types of plots the comic has gone with.
Doesn't mean it will get renewed, but the showrunners are planning for a season 2 in a way which sounds like it wouldn't drag as much.
Joel, It might do that. But honestly I don't care. Right now this is the least important comic adaptation thingie I care about.
Does episode 11 of season 2 double as a 4th of July and Christmas episode?
Also, does the trend of them making bad decisions when it comes to when, where, and with whom they bed down with continue?
NPC,
It's a trend yes and also yes.
My guess: little from column A little from column B
Also, does the trend of them making bad decisions when it comes to when, where, and with whom they bed down with continue?Does not that make the team an accurate depiction of real life people, or am I just projecting?
Maybe, but do you go into high risk missions and decide to stop in the middle and get it on?
Maybe, but do you go into high risk missions and decide to stop in the middle and get it on?Also, does the trend of them making bad decisions when it comes to when, where, and with whom they bed down with continue?Does not that make the team an accurate depiction of real life people, or am I just projecting?
When else do you get it ON? ;)
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yeh I'm with John on this one. Adrenaline fused On-ing is the way to go.
Green,
It's a pretty interesting idea having the Crime Syndicate. Not sure that's where they're going with that. But it would give each of the shows something to tie them together.
BTW apparently Rip Hunter is building a new set of Time Master only this time it's a Time BUREAU!
Green,
Well after this latest screw up...he's not wrong!
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Best of the WB trailers, so far. It had stuff from the past season, without being a clip-show recapping the last episode (like the Arrow trailer), and a decent amount of imagery from at least one future episode, to whet the appetite. A former Tantu totem user, to challenge Vixen? Someone, perhaps Vixen, saying 'Legends never die,' possibly ironically, since it's already been Chekov's-gunned that she's the Legend whose death would literally mess up time (which means that, for reasons of narrative drama, she's *got* to come close to death at least once...). The show continues to have slightly more characters than I'm happy with, but also to be the most fun of the WB DC shows. Perhaps that's part of it. With so many characters, including deliberate knuckleheads like Mick Rory, on the team, the Idiot Ball gets passed around a bit more, and it's less 'Oh Barry, you idiot.' every single episode, so no one person looks like a total dunce. :)
The Flash trailer was 'meh' (hey, let's resolve the big dramatic ending 5 minutes into the new season and squander the potential to use this time to focus on characters not-Barry!) and the Supergirl trailer was dire, IMO, showing practically nothing of what she'll face in the upcoming season.
I'm not even sure what's going on with Arrow. They are showing one of the characters that was left unconscious in a building *right next to a bomb* alive, while a bunch of the characters who were in the open, able to dash into the water, and nowhere near visible bombs, seem to be missing in action. I don't even know what the showrunners are thinking. Nobody watched Arrow to see Oliver, hero-Dad, or his ickle spawn, whose name I've forgotten, again.
I dunno if they sqaundered it. They didn't actually SHOW Barry so much as someone in a Flash outfit. It could be Wally from the Future. Maybe.
Arrow is confusing but I think the fact we have two Black Canaries (well one and dark half version) does make me wonder how THAT will play out. But yes William (Oliver's son) is clearly not a huge draw.
But mostly I agree that of the shows on CW, Legends has some serious stuff to contend with. I'm just not convinced it's JUST the Tantu user.
I mean maybe Per Degaton? We'll see I guess.
Comic-con trailer
Call out to Bwana Beast at 1:51?
Damon,
He's in there! :) How much of an impact is unclear.
Legends of Tomorrow Loses Series Regular Victor Garber
Maybe now would be the time to bring Ronnie Raymond back from the void.
Maybe but I'm not convinced either of them is smarter than Stein....
Yeah pretty much Bjorn. Oh well.
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Ok.... That was a fun premier. I love the new Time Bureau and I'm a huge fan of them addressing... pretty much everything I've complained about for 2 seasons.
I mean.. they can still screw things up horribly... but I'm curious to see where we go from here.
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Love Vixen's very brief appearance. That would be a pretty awesome power-up, if it's something that's going to remain (and not an indication that she's totally off the rails...)
Some of the comments from the Time Bureau people came across as a little on-the-nose with their snottiness, and it felt a little meta, as in the writers were telling us, the viewers, that we were idiots for liking these people and their periodic doofishness.
I don't know if it's just my eyes, but it seemed like the makeup people were not on the job. A couple of the actors (Caity and Franz) had some weird skin stuff going on. The camera would zoom in for a close-up and I'd be like, 'pull back, Porkins! You're too close!'
Set,
Blame the camera guys more than the makeup guys.
The comments I felt were the writers' way of talking to the critics about stuff that happened in the shows other season.
John Constantine is I think only showing up for a two part episode. Not the rest of the season.
And yeah...some of the set up here was kind of dumb. But then a lot of Legends is kind of dumb...
Alright yes I think John will just be a guest character, much like he was in Arrow.
As for Greenie's points:
1) My guess? Team Arrow doesn't need more Canaries and the fact Sara might just wanted to try her hand at being normal.
2) He gave the company to Felicity to run. When went into bankruptcy.
2b) My guess? He couldn't find an opening at Google.
3. True. and 3a) also true.
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I'm still upset constantine was cancelled on a cliff hanger.
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I'm just annoyed with NBC for giving us a show and then taking it away.
You're not supposed to be Fox, NBC!!! *shakes his fist*
I know the Firestorm special effects are expensive to use too much, but the way they constantly keep Jax and Stein separated is ridiculously contrived. I'm kind of hoping when Victor Garber leaves they do the thing kind of like in the comics where Stein is physically destroyed and just in Jax's head all the time, and Jax can just be Firestorm whenever he wants to (of course then they'll have to find other silly reasons for him not to, but still). Garber can always record ADR elsewhere to be the voice in Jax's head.
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Frankly, I'd prefer if they just have Jax stop being Firestorm entirely if they can't afford the effects (or write challenges for a flying fireball-throwing transmuter). He's useful as the ship's mechanic, and it's not like Rory contributes much more than 'dude with a fire gun that mysteriously never burns anyone.'
Rather than deal with the eye-rolling contrivances as to why Firestorm won't be in this episode, I'd be fine with them just getting rid of the option entirely, and save the effects budget (and writing challenges) for why Nate can't 'get hard' this week or why Ray's suit isn't working or whatever. :/
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I'm actually with Set. If they can't make a heavy hitter like Firestorm useful or at least do more than blow things up, it's not really Firestorm.
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I agree I had hope when he started to transmute but they might as well get rid of him at this point. Which is sad really cause he was the main reason I was originally excited about the Legends.