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Vidmaster7 wrote:
The real reason is it distracts the enemy to giver her the edge.

Which is as stupid as 'waiting for the right symbol to fill it'. If there is one thing that full powered kryptonians don't need is cheap theatrics to distract and give them an edge. They're the most OP characters in the franchise :D


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I think we would have gotten a powered Max Lord in a future season if the show hadn't jumped to CW. I assume the actor was simply a casualty of the budget cut and location change associated with that move.


MMC,

Maybe but it might have also been the fact they decided since they got a full season, they needed to change things up.

But I do agree, more Maxwell Lord (especially with psychic powers/mind control powers) would be great.

Then again, maybe he's gone into the spy business and that's why he's not been seen.

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We could find out at a later date that Max has been throwing enemy after enemy at her to truly gauge her abilities, allies and support system before taking it all out.

Would be a very Max thing to do.


You want to take out a kryptonian eh. So you get a chain gun that fires kryptonite bullets. You set up a Crime with a innocent you fire chain gun ant innocent bystanders. Kryptonian gets in way to block attack. Boom victory is mine.

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Honestly if I were J'onn I'd task Wynn to design a bracelet that held a miniaturized device keyed to identifying the Kryptonite radiation signature with a 100 ft range. Kara would always have it on.

Of course that would get in the way of plot/suspense moments though.


But my bullets are covered in lead! when they hit they would shatter then the kryptonite would take effect and she wouldn't know until it was to late!

*evil laugh* best part is i'm a nobody so she won't see it coming while if lex was doing it she would know that something is up.


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Vidmaster7 wrote:

But my bullets are covered in lead! when they hit they would shatter then the kryptonite would take effect and she wouldn't know until it was to late!

*evil laugh* best part is i'm a nobody so she won't see it coming while if lex was doing it she would know that something is up.

Where does a nobody get Kryptonite?

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That's the thing. Kryponite should be harder to come by that weapons grade plutonium.


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I don't know guys for some of those old shows and comics it seems like everybody had kryptoite. But that is OK Some super villain is bound to give me some once I tell them my plan. they will probably pay me too.

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Mark Thomas 66 wrote:
That's the thing. Kryponite should be harder to come by that weapons grade plutonium.

That was something that has always bugged me about the Superman movies/TV shows. Kryptonite should be the rarest thing going on this planet, but yet every villain seems to have some, and in assorted colors. Smallville especially was terrible about this. I understand the need to have it, otherwise nothing could stop the House of El, but man...

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Synthetic kryptonite?


Synthetic Kryptonite is kind of unreliable I've noticed. Or did you not see what happen to poor Metallo, Hama?

Anyways I don't think Max needs that to handle Supergirl. He's got the brains and the power to do that.


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Thomas Seitz wrote:
Synthetic Kryptonite is kind of unreliable I've noticed. Or did you not see what happen to poor Metallo, Hama?

Or Superman III? (Hint: the missing ingredient is not tar.)


Damon,

Good point. I was just thinking of recent incidents, not previous ones.

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Cylyria wrote:
Mark Thomas 66 wrote:
That's the thing. Kryponite should be harder to come by that weapons grade plutonium.
That was something that has always bugged me about the Superman movies/TV shows. Kryptonite should be the rarest thing going on this planet, but yet every villain seems to have some, and in assorted colors. Smallville especially was terrible about this. I understand the need to have it, otherwise nothing could stop the House of El, but man...

Though Smallville explained it in episode 1 with thier mini Armageddon meteor shower that rained Kryptonite down on the planet in fire and death.

I still say the twist that his arrival killed Lana's parents was pretty tragic/brilliant.


Regardless of what happened with Krypton, and thus later on kryptonite, I'm interested to see how Supergirl does in its third season with this Reign character.


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Saturn Girl has been cast.

So every episode, Martian Manhunter could have solved things in 30 seconds. This meant they had to come up with a reason his telepathy doesn't work.

So adding a more powerful Tepe makes so much sense. As much as I love her, and her team, she will have to be more misused than Firestorm to keep the power level down.

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further casting info and speculation:

A powerful pyschic villain called Psi has also been cast (actress Yael Grobglas, from Jane the Virgin, who's great in that show). So more psychic threats means the more psychic characters get stuff to do rather than written out.


Well psychic characters are generally the only ones that can do something to Kryptonians...

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Which reminds me of the fact that I kind of like Arrowverse Kal being susceptible to some things Kara isn't given that because of his upbringing, despite being fully Kryptonian, the residual self image of his psyche is Clark Kent form Smallville Kansas.

I like the fact that being more human makes him a little less psychically invulnerable.


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All I know is Arrowverse Kal is still WAY better than DCEU Kal.


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Thomas Seitz wrote:
All I know is Arrowverse Kal is still WAY better than DCEU Kal.

In other news, the sky is blue and water is wet. The sad thing is, Henry Cavill can act. And he doesn't have to have a 5 o'clock shadow. So his portrayal is not his fault.


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Thomas Seitz wrote:
The sad thing is, Henry Cavill can act. And he doesn't have to have a 5 o'clock shadow. So his portrayal is not his fault.

Agreed. That's how I felt about Brandon Routhe. He was an excellent Superman in a horrible script. Spacey too. Great Lex but there's only so much you can do with a script like that.


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A friend and I hashed out a rewrite for Superman Returns over lunch once. The guy with the chain gun? John Corbin. His crew were hired by Lex to distract Superman while he was stealing that Kryptonite.
But one of the bullets bounces off Supes, and catches Corbin in the heart. After he is declared dead, Lex snags the body, and resurrects him.
In the third act, instead of "Lex Luthor, in the New Continent, with a Kryptonite Shiv", Lex sics Metallo on Superman. So he is running for his life through a maze that is steadily draining his powers, from a man who could kill him.

The only casting choice I didn't like in the movie was Lois. She looked too young. I don't much care for Parker Posey, but Lex's moll is traditionally annoying, so it works.

And the fact that Routh is a good actor is a major reason why it annoys me that his character has become the butt monkey of Legends.


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The only casting choice I didn't like in the movie was Lois. She looked too young.

Fact!! Not only looked too young... she WAS too young. Lois should always be a full fledged adult succeeding in the business world. Margot Kidder was 30 when Superman came out... Terri Hatcher was 29 when her show started... This script not only had her as Pulitzer prized writer for a major newspaper but was also set for FIVE YEARS AFTER the original movies with a 5 year old boy...

Who do they cast?? a 23 year old. Bare numbers alone means that Superman had to have knocked her up and flown away when she was only 17-18... I have no problem with Kate Bosworth.. but MAN was she miscast.

If they were going for a brand new story with an early lois... or going a smallville origins route... than yeah, 23 would be fine... but to write it as AFTER all the other adventures took place, deep into a family and career?? Lois should have been at least mid-30's maybe even 40's.. That's what they did with Amy Adams at least (though I can't believe was 39 in Man of Steel.... WOW... )

I loved most of the casting, but yeah... Lois was bad.


Like you said, not her fault. She did a passable job. Not great, but ok. Just was not the right actress for the part.

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I will say that Man of Steel, and especially the extended version of BvS actually emphasize both Clark and Lois' abilities as investigative reporters, with Lois having cultivated numerous high level contacts and "unnamed" sources.

Clark actually pounding the pavement to look into the Gotham Bat before confronting him as Superman.


But seriously was kara's plan really to melt that psychics head from behind? Did she just assume she would miss? That is pretty hardcore all I'm sayin.

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Since losing Mon-El she's not having anybody's $#!+

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Vidmaster7 wrote:
But seriously was kara's plan really to melt that psychics head from behind? Did she just assume she would miss? That is pretty hardcore all I'm sayin.

I know, right? Super-breath, Kara. Just knock her around, don't burn a hole through her noggin!

Ew, now I wonder if super-breath after eating bagels and lox would be extra incapacitating...


Set,

I always assumed Kryptonians could negate scent if they tried REALLY hard. Maybe.

But super breath/icy breath would have been a better choice sure than heat vision.


I mean it made a hole in the metal pillar that it hit instead of her so she can't even say she was going easy on her.


Again, icy breath works better.


I will admit I was overly excited when I heard Carl Lumbly's voice

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coming out of J'onn's father.

I love the continued use of legacy actors in the Arrowverse (though I'm still kind of confused by them recasting Kara's mother with Erica Durance.)


Kal,

My understanding is that Kara's mom's original actress couldn't make the commitments to being able to be used. Erica, on the other hand!

But yes, Carl Lumbly's voice and David Harewood's MM are my two favorites.


So President Perfect the Alien is building a wall? Does this even remotely make sense in the same world that granted extra-terrestrials sanctuary?

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I think in the first ep, Press Sec Cat Grant reported the Speaker of the House (or similar) was pushing for the wall. So the idea does exist in-world, but is not supported by President Wonder Woman.

That said, while I think speculative fiction can be a great means of reflecting on social issues of the real world, doing it this anviliciously is not perhaps sending the message in the most effective way. I think it distracted from the rest of the dialogue, which was more than adequately addressing the dad's fears, both founded (his experiences as an immigrant) and unfounded (his belief Maggie was "torturing" him by "choosing" to be a lesbian). What he said about experiencing discrimination I could understand and connect to much better than when I was trying to remember how their very different political situation was referencing ours.


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Yeah I agree DQ I didn't understand the I was discriminated against and now I'm going to discriminate against you because you "chose" to be a discriminant-able(?) minority. While I was born that way.

I personally just choked it up to me not understanding how dumb people like that think.

I will say in the writers defense that it probably means they don't understand the point of view their writing from and that may not be a bad thing in this case. bad for story but good on them as people.


Great actor. I understood his character's POV - even if I don't agree with large parts of it. That one statement was their required Writers' Politics for the episode.

And that is the part that bothers me. The other three shows don't usually feel the need to do it every episode.


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Kalshane wrote:
I will admit I was overly excited when I heard Carl Lumbly's voice

Yes, Carl Lumbly was a blast from the past, especially since he voiced J'onn J'onzz in the animated Justice League and Justice League Unlimited series.

Other voices I miss hearing: William Marshall and Brock Peters, both deceased.


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I wouldn't mind some Clancy Brown about now...or else THE Batman: Kevin Conroy. :)


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Clancy was General Eiling until Grodd got a hold of him.


Still could love to get that back.

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Man I wish Lena had shot him. That would have been way more fun. (I liked the ep tho.).

On another note, I have never wanted children but if I were lucky enough to have someone like Alex Danvers as a girlfriend I'd be like "okay kids it is!"

That said, Maggie was right to stand her ground if that's what she wanted, but I didn't like how manipulative she was being.


Well let's be honest, Maggie's had a rough time of it being a lesbian. So for her to do that, is not unexpected.

But regardless, I do hope this isn't the end of a great couple.

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Thomas Seitz wrote:
Well let's be honest, Maggie's had a rough time of it being a lesbian. So for her to do that, is not unexpected.

Most lesbians and queer women have a rough time of it at some point. Not really an excuse to be that manipulative.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm trying to find a wormhole to Earth-38 because there's a lady who needs consoling. :)

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But regardless, I do hope this isn't the end of a great couple.

Unfortunately, the reason this storyline happened is because Floriana Lima didn't want to stay with the show. The producers would have kept them together if she had stayed.

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;_;


*thumbs down*

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DeathQuaker wrote:
Thomas Seitz wrote:
Well let's be honest, Maggie's had a rough time of it being a lesbian. So for her to do that, is not unexpected.
Most lesbians and queer women have a rough time of it at some point. Not really an excuse to be that manipulative.

Let's be honest, too...Maggie attempting to manipulate Alex isn't exactly out of character. She's done it several times in the past. For as much as a certain segment of the fanbase railed against Mon-El and declared his and Kara's relationship to be toxic, they always seemed to ignore the fact that Maggie seems to default to lying and manipulating Alex whenever it suits her.

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