I believe "Supergirl X" is properly called Overgirl.
Can we get some spoiler tags in here, folks? There are people involved in the thread who haven't seen the episode(s) in question. Thanks.
Damon,
Yes. She is.
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Can we get some spoiler tags in here, folks? There are people involved in the thread who haven't seen the episode(s) in question. Thanks.
I don't think much has been spoiled except that there is a kryptonite arrow that shows up. Everything else can be seen in the trailers, and thus are public knowledge. You may not have seen the trailers, but if it's in a trailer, it's not a spoiler.
Which is not to argue with you, it's to reassure you at least if you've only read this thread, really very little has been revealed.
Bigger question: what happened to Overman? Aside from "we can't afford Tyler for this."
DQ,
That second theory might work if she had arrived earlier. Plus you're right about we're not talking about stuff that wasn't already in the trailers.
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There were folks in the other threads discussing things that weren't in the trailers, hence my statements.
BUT, that being said, and thanks to having just binged all four episodes on the CW app...
I'm not okay with the death of Professor Stein. There were so many other ways to make that happen that didn't involve killing him off.
And Gideon has brought characters back to life in the past, so there's an in-universe error, there, and it's irking me.
And I totally didn't tear up during the scenes with Jefferson at the end. I don't know what you're talking about.
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That's as may be, but...
Maybe it's my lifelong love of Superman speaking, but there's always a better way than killing them off.
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I put my thoughts on the Legends of Tomorrow spoiler in the Legends of Tomorrow thread... where it might be easier to follow. In short here, I agree it was unnecessary, though moving.
In Supergirl aspects, I really liked that Alex got a plot, and she got to be both badass and a dork, as she is and should be.
DQ,
It makes more sense, since this was crossover and not Supergirl.
Alex's role in this crossover was much better. Though I still wish they had Winn and Cisco meet up.
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Can I just say Supergirl's throwback reference to a particular piece of dialogue in Superman 2 was brilliant. I laughed so hard I had to play the scene back because I missed what came after.
Jem,
That was a good Easter egg.
Who was the person I was talking to that predicted the whole alex and black canary hook up?
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Alex and White Canary. I said it'd be a good confidence rebuilding boost for Alex.
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Oh sorry White canary I mean. I Had the right face in mind. Just mixed up the name.
Former Black Canary, now White Canary. Easy to mix up.
And we have a lot of colours still up for graps^^
Least its not as bad as the hulks. Their is a full rainbow of them in both masculine and feminine variety.
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As least there aren't as many hulks as lanterns.
Black Hulk is something NOBODY wants.
The plus side with the lanterns is it kind of makes sense and the comics always are visually impressive to read. Bigger variety since lanterns can all fight in their style while all the hulks are just same power set but a different mood.
Hmm their is a cross over for you. lantern hulks. only problem is their colors wouldn't match up. Green definitely needs the red ring, red hulk yellow ring, you could at least give a-bomb the blue ring they can match.
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The leader gets the Orange ring.
I think it would be hilarious if the actual effect of Red K was making Kryptonians trip balls and every effect shown so far were just Superman's hallucinations.
The leader gets the Orange ring.
I think it would be hilarious if the actual effect of Red K was making Kryptonians trip balls and every effect shown so far were just Superman's hallucinations.
That would be amazing.
I'm pretty sure Silver K makes Kryptonians trip.
But yes the color variations on Hulks is pretty weird some times.
Can I just say Supergirl's throwback reference to a particular piece of dialogue in Superman 2 was brilliant. I laughed so hard I had to play the scene back because I missed what came after.
I must have missed that.
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Can I just say Supergirl's throwback reference to a particular piece of dialogue in Superman 2 was brilliant. I laughed so hard I had to play the scene back because I missed what came after.I must have missed that.
When Supergirl was hovering outside of evil supergirls spaceship.
It was the best scene of that part.
Okay, I did hear that line, I just didn't remember it from Superman 2.
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Okay, I did hear that line, I just didn't remember it from Superman 2.
Oh yes! When Superman regains his powers and makes his triumphant 'save the day' return. Epic moment Superman II.
I'm 90% convinced that line was the only reason to make Kara II a 'general' in the first place :)
So...Reign is coming now. How much death you think we'll get tonight?
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So...Reign is coming now. How much death you think we'll get tonight?
Nowhere near the amount that a character like her SHOULD be causing. And if there is a fair amount of death, it will be like the Daxomite invasion...not shown, but just implied. The CW shows don't really have the balls to do otherwise.
I'm disappointed in the way they turned her evil. I would have greatly preferred having Sam go over to the dark side of her own volition. Now it seems inevitable that they going to go with a tired rehashed redemption arc focusing on Sam's love for Ruby...almost certainly ending with Sam heroically sacrificing herself for some inane reason.
The "turning evil" scene also would have, in my opinion, benefited from some sort of SFX to show SOMETHING affecting Sam. The way the scene looks now, it's like a random stomach cramp turned her evil.
Kosh,
I think it's more brain-washing and genetics but eh.
Kosh,
I think you got a reasonable amount of death. Reign is a bad ass. The medical staff is doing the same thing wrong that happened in Superman Returns, where are all of the full spectrum light to re-energize Supergirl. It should be so bright in there that they need welding googles to be able to see. Sun light and oxygen is what she needs.
Great episode.
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Maybe Krypton didn't blow up in Earth-1's verse, and the Kryptonite is from a meteor.Without Krypton exploding, there's no good reason for a chunk of Kypton to have an adverse affect on Kryptonians.
That explains why it didn't appear to be very effective on Overgirl. :)
(Superman/Krypton lore has changed over the years, but I don't see why the planet exploding is why the mineral is dangerous. I thought it was that Earth's yellow sun gives them powers, and the native mineral skews/blocks/screws up the alien solar effect upon them. But I'm sure there's a billion versions of what Kryptonite is/isn't supposed to do, so.)
On Reign, what I like is that Reign IS in fact initially choosing her targets as influenced by what SAM thinks, so she isn't a pure sleeper personality. Sam thinks the gang is bad, Sam thinks Edge needs to die, so that is what sparks Reign to act---and indicates Sam could regain control over her Reign persona over time.
It takes provocation by Supergirl to decide to fight her, Reign didn't seek her out to confront her.
Yeah, at the end I did not get why they didn't have a billion sun lamps on Kara. They should know by now that's what she needs.
(Superman/Krypton lore has changed over the years, but I don't see why the planet exploding is why the mineral is dangerous. I thought it was that Earth's yellow sun gives them powers, and the native mineral skews/blocks/screws up the alien solar effect upon them. But I'm sure there's a billion versions of what Kryptonite is/isn't supposed to do, so.)If I recall correctly it wasn't always the planet exploding, but the sun and it was the irradiating of the planet's minerals made them deadly.
All I know is Reign has to be more than just Kryptonian to do that kind of damage. But I could be wrong.
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That was pretty damn good rendition of Batman v Superman.
Seriously, way Reign is presented in visuals and in contrast to Supergirl, including how they first rooted her as Kara's friend, and with the cape & cowl, she pretty much is Batman. And like BvS, this also had shades of Death of Superman in it, minus the obvious element.
And that fight was one for the ages. And it was smart to make this happen on Christmas, added some darkness in it's own way. Good television.
Kal,
But what does that actually MEAN?
Yeah, we really have no clue or indication that CWU Kryptonians were the xenophobic, empire-building technocrats that they have alternately been and not been in the comics (depending on writer and continuity).
The original comic-book World Killers were built to take out Kryptons foes and rebellious worlds, before the Raoists pulled them back and into a life of isolation.
If these Kryptonians were never like that (which Kara's tales of going to other worlds and seeing all these cool things out there in outer space would seem to indicate), then why would they build World Killers?
Which, of course, also begs the question of - if there was Kryptonian space travel and interplanetary commerce - why was it so hard to get people off of Krypton, and what happened to all those other Kryptonians who were off-world when their planet blew up, but... hey... what do I know?
Yeah, we really have no clue or indication that CWU Kryptonians were the xenophobic, empire-building technocrats that they have alternately been and not been in the comics (depending on writer and continuity).
The original comic-book World Killers were built to take out Kryptons foes and rebellious worlds, before the Raoists pulled them back and into a life of isolation.
If these Kryptonians were never like that (which Kara's tales of going to other worlds and seeing all these cool things out there in outer space would seem to indicate), then why would they build World Killers?
Which, of course, also begs the question of - if there was Kryptonian space travel and interplanetary commerce - why was it so hard to get people off of Krypton, and what happened to all those other Kryptonians who were off-world when their planet blew up, but... hey... what do I know?
The folks behind Reign seemed to pretty clearly be an extremist cult...I don't think you can assume there activities are going to be indicative of the Krypton of Kara's upbringing. If Krypton was more warlike in the past, that could very well be hundreds (hell thousands) of years before Kara was born.
Thanks Kal for at least admitting you don't know. I don't either.
[shrugs]Maybe it was the Kryptonian version of Christmas and everyone was home for the holidays[/shrugs]
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The folks behind Reign seemed to pretty clearly be an extremist cult...I don't think you can assume there activities are going to be indicative of the Krypton of Kara's upbringing. If Krypton was more warlike in the past, that could very well be hundreds (hell thousands) of years before Kara was born.
That's very much the impression I got from the talk about Reign on the show. (I know nothing about the comic book version of Reign, so that's probably helpful to me.)
Long before Kara's time, according to what the show said, Kryptonians were polytheistic and 'savage,' and Reign comes from that group, that follow something that came about long before Rao became the singular deity (and Kryptonians apparently became a bit more tolerant of both each other and other species).
In the movie/Man of Steel continuity, Krypton used to have a presence all over different star systems (explaining why they had outposts and scout ships scattered as far as Earth), but had retreated inwards and become more insular stay-at-homes as their civilization began to retract (perhaps the low birth rates that tend to accompany greater wealth and education, taking it's toll?), to the degree that there didn't seem to be any functioning spacecraft left (since there was no point to have them, so that they had to whip one up on the spot for baby Kal) when Krypton blew up.
Why Jor-El and Lara couldn't whip one up with room for themselves as well, who knows. "No, no, we'll just stay here and die, for like, no reason at all, and hope the benighted savages we are shooting you at don't blow you out of the sky, or eat you when you land. It's in the script. Nothing for it, really."
Ditto Kara's parents. "No, you go on dear, we'll catch the next train..."