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Now I know this is a stupid question but seriously what would a character with 20 levels in commoner be in a pathfinder world? Like I can figure out what an expert, warrior, or aristocrat could be theoretically be if they went 20 levels in their NPC class but for the life of me I cannot fathom what that looks like for a commoner. Is he like a peasant king, the penultimate farmer, what is he?
If anyone has any ideas let them fly I'm kind of interested to see what people come up with.
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Forrest Gump came to mind for some reason.
Carrying the biggest rake you've ever seen
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Eastwood in Gran Torino...
Farmer, Laborer, Beggar, etc.
He is the guy that is always there to do his job, and do it well, but doesn't go beyond what his job is. The guy at the inn that makes the stew, but if the guy cooking the roast is sick, don't expect him to try to cook the roast, he just makes the stew.
Or he's the guy with 20 levels of Commoner and 1 skill rank in 20 different Professions and Crafts. He can do a lot of things, but is only so-so in any of them.
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Someone who lived life exceptionally well, but someone who lived an unexceptional life. :-)
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They would probably be the grizzled labor slaves. They would have to be someone who was prevented from branching out but lucky enough to experience that much to make it to 20. Think Gally slaves in an exploration ship.
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I agree with the Pale Grin. A 20th level commoner is someone who has survived incredible circumstances and accomplished amazing things with little more than incredible luck and powerful friends. It's not an uncommon trope in fantasy--you could even argue that most of the hobbits from Tolkien's work are just very lucky commoners and experts who racked up a lot of levels over the coarse of the adventure, but never picked up much formal training of any sort.
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Street sweeper in City of Brass.
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Not afraid of housecats...at all.
Not afraid of housecats...at all.
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Miner is a good one- got it off the PRD.
A miner would have enough combat to level it with enough focus to just be a miner.
-S
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He probably owns Ye Old Magic Shoppe.
He would be able to defend himself pretty well and afford to own a shop and trade.
I think everyone* who experiences enough to level to 20 would eventually turn into an expert or warrior.
*with perhaps a negligible variance
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The most common man in the world.
and we're talking about mythic levels of commoness here, if in RL highest leveled people are like level 4, this guy would be common beyond belief.
seriously though, he'd be very skilled, at like one thing. like an ultra otaku.
OR, he'd be that guy who had like jobs in 6 or 7 different career fields.
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Now imagine a lvl 20/MT10 Commoner. I'd like to imagine it'd have Divine Source and become god of all commoners.
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on another route, maybe a commoner elected King after a political upheaval.
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Back in 3.5 we played a lvl 21 game.we had a knight who ruled a kingdom, the high priest of a god, an archmage, and me, the lvl 21 commoner.
All the nobles, and hight level people treated me like a common serf, I was nothing, no titles, just a farmer, cook, miner, the ignored me and were angered by my presence, the common folk on the other hand, spoke of me in hushed tones of wonder, myths of the serf that stood against his evil lord, with the help of some mighty adventurers, and went back to care for his village. If course it was all just tales, and the description changed from telling to telling.
Because everyone else was so....noble/high standing, they could never actually talk with the common folk in villages and such, it just wasn't done, the villagers would bow and be oh so respectful but clam up in fear of these people who's power rivalled the gods.
My character would go into wherever a few days in advance and talk with the commoners, the barkeeps, the stable hands and groomsmen, learn things that the higher society world just didn't know. Things like how a new colt was born...wrong and was killed, it scared the villagers, but the barons and lords didn't even give it a thought, the meaningless superstitions and fears of the poor and such..
It was actually really fun!
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I'm totally adopting Bob into my games now.
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The guy who doesn't know any magic, and isn't particularly skilled in the martial arts, and hasnt seen even a quarter of the things you have by level 3...but he's just such a tough SOB he can kick your ass throughout the vast majority of your adventuring career.
you just described a 10th level fighter or expert... because they'd be just as good at the 20th level common at things. no we have to go deeper.
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CR 18 and worth 153,600 xp
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Parent of 20 children, all of them under 18 years old.
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Level 20 Commoner
You beat me to it!
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Rumored to own the legendary Pancreas of Vecna.
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Does the level 20 Commoner speak common?
The village elder who isn't a leader but is still very respected.
That's close to what I once used (12th level) as the elder and most experience Camel Keeper in a Desert of Desolation 3.5 game. Not the owner of a pack, not a chief at all, not so strong, not so smart, not so nice but somewhat wise and everybody knew that he was the one to ask about camels and most everything that's 'camel-ish': it's milk, gear, meat and the deserts.
He was around 80-something and the players enjoyed the characters' presence in the stories.
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I personally imagine Hodor from ASOIAF, but a bit more intelligent. No particularly useful skills, not really 'trained' in anything and no magical ability to speak of . . .
But simply a powerhouse. Seems nigh-unto invincible to the other common folk, but easily defeated by somebody with a bit of know-how, training, or mystical ability. (So, your typical level 8+ adventurer)
I mean, let's break it down with a typical stat array and capability:
STR: 14 (+1 Level)
DEX: 12 (+1 Level)
CON: 14 (12 +2)
INT: 10 (+1 Level)
WIS: 11 (+1 Level)
CHA: 10 (+1 Level)
Since most Commoners are peasants, laborers, farmers, etc. the most likely candidate for the stat boost would probably be CON. By either luck or inheritance, he would have come into a couple of magical items to represent a high NPC wealth. The actual 'value' part of his wealth would mostly go to hiring underlings, purchasing land, and paying for equipment. For giggles, let's give him a Cloak of Resistance +5 and his stat boosts would most likely be evenly divided as most of us - rather than focusing on improving one aspect - typically grow a little in all of them. To survive this long without any special skills, he's probably pretty beefy, so any feats not related to his profession are probably going to be those that represent a natural conditioning or predisposition to being hard to kill. I've also kept them to (predominately) General Feats to avoid too many prerequisites.
So how does this look ultimately?
Jon Everyman
Level 20 Commoner
HP: 140 (20d6 + 80)
AC: 12 T: 12 FF: 10
Melee: Unarmed Strike +12/+7 (1d3 + 2)
or
Club +12/+7 (1d4 + 3)
Ranged: Sling +11/+6 (1d4 + 2)
FORT: +15 REF: +12 WILL: +11
Feats: (10 + 1(Human)) Toughness, Endurance, Diehard, Improved Unarmed Strike, Skill Focus (Profession), Great Fortitude, Alertness, Fleet, Deft Hands/Deceitful/anything that gives a flat +2 bonus to some skills, Survivor, Catch Off Guard.
The last feat is a toss up, but I chose Catch Off Guard to represent his resourcefulness, despite not being formally trained in any actual 'weapons'. If you want to make him more of a brute, put the bonus in STR and give him Power Attack. (So 1d3 + 9. Absolutely brutal to a 1st Level anything) If you want to make him less of a combatant, take out the IUS, Catch Off Guard, and replace with Knowledge feats. His saves are godlike to an inexperienced would-be poisoner, but pretty weak for a typical level 20 adventurer. He is easy to hit, but good luck taking him down permanently.
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Samwise Gamgee, for sure.
Seems to me like a commoner would never reach 20th level without having branched off into an adventurer class. How would a farmer get the xp needed to even reach 6th or 10th?
Perhaps he was cursed with a long life and lived 500 years. Even then...
But it's a fun topic.
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One of those Old New Englanders that sits on the porch and is completely unfazed by everything.
"What'd them little fellers want, Frank?"
"Well, Bob, the one with the big ray gun asked for dee-rections to Pluto, but I done told him he needs to get back into space first and then worry about where he's goin'"
"Ah'yup."
"Looks like rain later, huh?"
"Ah'yup."
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Seems to me like a commoner would never reach 20th level without having branched off into an adventurer class. How would a farmer get the xp needed to even reach 6th or 10th?
Perhaps he was cursed with a long life and lived 500 years. Even then...
But it's a fun topic.
Actually he is just the common sort of farmer, who have been plagued with rats on his farm. Not enough to call adventurers to clean up, and he doesn't have a cat. But there is always enough of them, for him to kill 5 rats in solo combat each day.
Having worked his farm for 20 years, with an average of 5 rats killed every day, he has gotten enough xp for him to reach lvl 20.