I think if you as a DM are targeting bags of holding in PF1, you are probably a really bad DM?
So you made an npc with sunder feats, and walked up to someone and directly attacked their bag with probably a pretty hard check. Even if you succeed, you are probably going to die, since you spent one or two turns doing functionally nothing other than robbing some character of gold.
There is no in game reason for an opponent to do such an act, and is just a dm trying to mess with players. That kind of dming gets a big F from me
Hello, I saw some good spell nerfs, but I think Wish and Miracle are still dumb, but now even more dumb because they are free?
Note: saying they are level 10 spells are not an excuse, that just means PF2 goes to level 18 and pretends level 19 and 20 play is functional
Unless the spells are actually organized I wont look any harder (alphabetically and not by level??? wtf)
Color spray nerf is good, an aoe save or die is lame.
Simulacrum nerf: it no longer exists. This is a pretty good nerf, the spell was broken in concept.
Prismatic wall: this nerf is pretty good, playing around one used to be pretty dumb, but now you can actually maybe go through one!
I actually don't know what to do other than add riders to fireball and lightning bolt so they do stuff in addition to damage. Maybe lightning bolt makes you lose one action on a failed save, or fireball gives you a penalty to hit from all the burning and explosion.
Buffing damage so that fireball one shots everything is probably not what you want lol
Strong martial characters usually delete an equal cr opponent in one full attack. It isn't a one shot but they really do lower the amount of bad guys doing bad stuff.
Let's say instead of casting fireball, I cast web. Now instead of the 4 guys being able to do a full attack, cast a spell, only like, 2 or 1 guys can. It's why the control spells in pathfinder are so good, and why blasting in pathfinder is probably going to be bad forever
Ryan Freire wrote:
Hello, if they broke their own rules for PF1, why do you think they wont do that in PF2? It's the same company with the same lead designer.
Paizo's business strategy is to make as much content as possible. You can try your best to avoid crazy stuff but things will slip through (Remember sacred geometry?)
Okay as someone who doesn't crunch numbers that much...why exactly were the occult classes and manifestations broken?
It used to be that paladins could detect evil without magic runes appearing. lots of people rp'd it as an "Icy stare" or whatever, it was fun.
That's impossible now, and I think pretty sad.
Hello.one problem with blasting in pathfinder is HP does not affect how dangerous an enemy is.
If you open with a fireball that does 30 damage to 4 guys, wow that was 120 damage! In some ways though, it is like you did nothing because each guy still gets his turn, can cast spells or attack and be just as effective.
I will also say that blasting is powerful in Pathfinder, probably 9.5/10 powerful, because of Dazing and Persistent spell. It's actually worse game design overall than blasting being just regular bad, because the correct build is esoteric and basically a secret from most players, while at the same time being absurdly powerful
Have you looked at npc wealth my dude? you can do scry and fry at level 9 if you feel like it.
Also, yeah scry can fail, but then you can just try again until it works, that's not a big deal
Hello @deadmanwalking. For the business strategy stuff: If paizo releases books at the same rate, same amount of feats, everything, then the amount of broken combos will approach the same level of pathfinder 1.
I do agree that spells being all or nothing is bad gameplay. When I looked at wizard spells for my own games I Tried to add a minor effect on a made save, while toning down the result on a failed save.
I do NOT agree that making like, wish or miracle 10th level solves the problem. It just pushes the problem to a later level. Let's say wish is the only broken spell in PF2, but you get it at level 19 or whatever. It just breaks the last 2 levels instead of last 4. That's technically an improvement but is it really solving the problem with wish?
So I really like playing Pathfinder, but there are a massive amounts of problems with the system. I'm really excited for Pathfinder 2 as an update, so I'm really hoping the dev team gets PF2 right.
The most powerful abilities in pathfinder usually revolve around a couple of key concepts:
2. Controlling Space
Even from level 1, this is readily apparent. A wizard walks up to some goblins and functionally kills them all with a color spray, but a fighter has to hack and risk injury one at a time. A levels 10+, it becomes absurd. A wizard can throw save or die fireball with dazing spell, and be protected from attacks with emergency force sphere. Or if you want to win immediately, you can cheat out a geas with limited wish, maybe without even paying with blood money!
I understand that combos are going to exist that are powerful, and because of Paizo's business of releasing books monthly, it's going to be hard to keep control of everything. It's the same problem MTG has, they print so many cards that infinite combos sneak through all the time. I really want to want to stress that right now Pathfinder is (I know this is thrown around a lot for minor balance issues but it is really true here) broken as written. Anzyr has what a high level wizard looks like in one of his posts and it is use the rules of Pathfinder as written, and pretty much as intended.
Spells like limited wish and wish that let you cheat out very long cast time spells are too good. I am kind of horrified that there will be a 10th level of spells because of how crazy the 7 8 and 9 spells already are.
Metamagic is too powerful in Pathfinder currently. Quicken is incredible action economy and Dazing spell turns you in a save or die machine.
Many status effects are essentially a save or die. If you nauseate someone, they are basically dead because they only have move actions. Stunned is the same thing, blind for many creatures makes them worthless, exhausted is brutal, dazed might as well be dead. The powerful status effects are functionally the same as having your character just be dead. Please be careful!
If you put an ability on an outsider, such as wish, that also means you are giving it to wizards. If you leave planar binding in the game, any time you print an outsider you are giving wizards access to a new body with spells. If you give the outsider a spell above their caster level, like wish, you are letting wizards get wish a lot earlier in the game than generally intended.
There is a lot of minutiae about why spells are too good so I tried to cut it down a bit. I did a re balance on my own for my games but I am worried for PF2. I'm not even getting into the issue wizards have with class identity and flavor. If you have an questions you can ask me and I can get into a bit more. Hopefully all these issues are addressed in PF2 and I can feel happy picking a wizard!
If you replace 2 rounds with 1 character's turn, that's more like Wrath of the Righteous.
Wrath I rate as tier S difficulty to gm and have a real game with a sense of danger or tension
Atheism in golarion has a specific meaning, closer to the 2nd one (you believe gods are real but they do not deserve worship).
Not believing gods are real would be extremely rare, as there is physical proof of their existence
Vic Wertz wrote:
Thanks for this, I thought it was crazy that there was some legal reason for not having it be turn based on a grid
She is a very powerful character who could solo the first book. The rules are horribly mangled with her around.
Trying to downplay her doesnt really work because she is central to phaendar as the local celebrity. She also has a big monlogue in the middle of the book..
Its really sad imo, because of how great the rest of the book is.
Boomerang Nebula wrote:
I play with that too, but i don't cheat. I hate fudging dice.
Some things i view as not cheating:
If the rules for a situation suck and you have to make something up, that's probably fine if its reasonable
Some monster has a sweet special ability because of story reasons, or is customized in some way.
Its the opposite. Regular summoner is much more powerful, synthesis starts off slightly better
Here is a video on how much it costs to make games.
The dev was asking for 1.5 million, which was less than half of what he actually needed. What you played at paizocon was specially curated to be used there to advertise the game.
Making a videogame costs a lot. Its also a well known kickstarter strategy to make the funding goal way less than what you actually need (I forget why this works but it does work)