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Saw mine again, he passed the cull but, sadly, he is not top 32...

Already thinking in a new one!

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Are you there Groetus? It's me, Quibblemuch.

Looking over these items, it occurs to me that I have been playing with exceedingly cheap GMs. In 20 years, the most expensive item any of my PCs has owned was a portable hole (20,000gp). That is not even close to the mean crafting price of the items I am seeing. Now I know, I did destroy that portable hole by putting it in a bag of holding, so maybe I don't deserve nice things, but I thought that's what you wanted, G. Anyway, could you maybe eat a few more of the expensive items so my PCs don't feel so threadbare? Thanks G., you're the best.

See you soon!

Grand Lodge RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16 , Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8 aka Jrcmarine

Anyone else bothered by the star trek item?

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quibblemuch wrote:

Are you there Groetus? It's me, Quibblemuch.

Looking over these items, it occurs to me that I have been playing with exceedingly cheap GMs. In 20 years, the most expensive item any of my PCs has owned was a portable hole (20,000gp). That is not even close to the mean crafting price of the items I am seeing. Now I know, I did destroy that portable hole by putting it in a bag of holding, so maybe I don't deserve nice things, but I thought that's what you wanted, G. Anyway, could you maybe eat a few more of the expensive items so my PCs don't feel so threadbare? Thanks G., you're the best.

See you soon!

Pricing a wondrous item is always tricky. If you follow the guidelines and examples for other items you almost always wind up with something so expensive no one will buy it over the christmas tree items.

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Treyson wrote:
That's exactly the reason why I left for a while. It's even more nerve-wracking post-cull.

My degrees are both in Mathematics. Why? Because I didn't want to write. I disliked it, and didn't feel I was good at it. There is an irony that in my Engineering job, I spend all day reading and writing, and virtually no time actually Engineering.

With that said, I have very little illusions about my ability to write an actual "Super Star" Wondrous Item. Let alone, a monster, an encounter, a module, etc. I've dabbled, I have a "blog" in the Kingmaker section recounting our campaign from my PC's (Zahir) perspective, but the nice thing about that, is that as Zahir is a human, he can write colloquially in his own journal, just as I would, and not have to worry about proper formatting, costing, game mechanics etc.

So, I don't have the butterflies. I made an entry, because I enjoy trying to add to the world. I enjoy the spirit of friendly competition, and because "maybe there's a chance!"

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So I keep seeing an item. Monsters in a Can really. I'd love to vote against it, as I'm not its biggest fan.

Problem: it's well written, not overpowered, appropriate to the world, and worst of all, it keeps getting pitted against items that don't meet these conditions.

Maybe someday I'll get to vote it down!

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Jrcmarine wrote:
Anyone else bothered by the star trek item?

The ensign one that is clearly a joke item? Yeah it bothers me it survived the cull when 2 of my friends did not. One forgot you can not copy past a formatted item into the contest without adding the coding and his fairly cool item didn't survive. The other did a healing item that used a table, apparently that was a no no for the voters.

I still have a few friends in the hunt, as am I. Glory awaits for 32.

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Ground penetrating radar in a magic item?

Grand Lodge RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16 , Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8 aka Jrcmarine

GM i was referring to the other Star Trek item that does a lot of damage.

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Hmmm, this item literally makes you blind but not blind

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Well, someone likes his LEGO...

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Best glove pairing ever. I guess you'd be busy preventing your hands from killing each other.

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
quibblemuch wrote:

Are you there Groetus? It's me, Quibblemuch.

Looking over these items, it occurs to me that I have been playing with exceedingly cheap GMs. In 20 years, the most expensive item any of my PCs has owned was a portable hole (20,000gp). That is not even close to the mean crafting price of the items I am seeing. Now I know, I did destroy that portable hole by putting it in a bag of holding, so maybe I don't deserve nice things, but I thought that's what you wanted, G. Anyway, could you maybe eat a few more of the expensive items so my PCs don't feel so threadbare? Thanks G., you're the best.

See you soon!

Pricing a wondrous item is always tricky. If you follow the guidelines and examples for other items you almost always wind up with something so expensive no one will buy it over the christmas tree items.

Granted. Yet the various source books do seem to manage a reasonably fair distribution. And the items I have liked best have tended to be lower-priced and simpler - things I could actually see using in play regularly, instead of something that I might never afford until I could already solve game problems by sheer dint of being very high level.

Some of the issue, of course, might also arise from feeling a pressure to create an "awesome" item to stand out from the competition where "awesome" is seen as a directly proportional to the numerical value attached to the item. All part of a culture of numerolatry.

De gustibus non est disputandum.

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What is with all the Cat Lord items? Am I missing something?


People submitted various cat-lord's items because ring of the master cat would be automatically disqualified, both as a ring and an artifact.

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Fairy vs Ghost related phenomenon?

RPG Superstar 2014 Top 32 , Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Marathon Voter Season 9

had a Cake vs Candle, hey,its not my birthday

also a curtain vs window, an interior decorators dream.

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Bleh, im still only a star voter. WHEN WILL THE MADNESS END!

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I've done quite a few PM reviews now. A few common themes and issues found in nearly all of them for you to all consider and think about are...

a) Leading off with a boring power. (I have done this too, just hopefully not this year >.<)

b) Burying the cool power in the middle (neither first nor last) (Guilty as charged, too often too)

c) Trying to do too much with one item. (Yup, done this too)

d) Not thinking far enough to what could be different with this item - i.e. looking for the something special. This is different to a) in that this is referring to doing the obvious rather than showing something ingenious and new (Yup, "been there, done that" as they say) - innovation, unexpected surprises - strive for these in your item designs.

Oh each and every one who asked for a review, I can say they exhibit the necessary technical skills and attention to detail, what they need to do to shine more now is look for the special, the gonzo, the wow factor and not get hung up on technicalities (biggest culprit - ME).

Hope that's useful to a few of you.

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Anthony Adam wrote:

I've done quite a few PM reviews now. A few common themes and issues found in nearly all of them for you to all consider and think about are...

a) Leading off with a boring power. (I have done this too, just hopefully not this year >.<)

b) Burying the cool power in the middle (neither first nor last) (Guilty as charged, too often too)

c) Trying to do too much with one item. (Yup, done this too)

d) Not thinking far enough to what could be different with this item - i.e. looking for the something special. This is different to a) in that this is referring to doing the obvious rather than showing something ingenious and new (Yup, "been there, done that" as they say) - innovation, unexpected surprises - strive for these in your item designs.

Oh each and every one who asked for a review, I can say they exhibit the necessary technical skills and attention to detail, what they need to do to shine more now is look for the special, the gonzo, the wow factor and not get hung up on technicalities (biggest culprit - ME).

Hope that's useful to a few of you.

It was. Many thankies for the review.

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Yes, thank you for the review, Anthony! And for all the advice you have throughout the forums!


Great idea with mediocre mechanics... Wait, again?

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I can't believe I just saw *another* new tooth item.

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Anthony Adam wrote:
I've done quite a few PM reviews now. A few common themes and issues found in nearly all of them for you to all consider and think about are...

To be clear, you haven't done a review of my item. But if you had, I'm pretty sure you'd have ended up saying most of the same things about it.

Very good advice.


I saw a least three and probably more.

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pH unbalanced wrote:
I can't believe I just saw *another* new tooth item.

Im going to create a PC with a mouth full of bling that just does a cone of charm person whenever he smiles.

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Drejk wrote:
People submitted various cat-lord's items because ring of the master cat would be automatically disqualified, both as a ring and an artifact.

I still love the first two Gord books. I've reread them more times than I can count.

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Jacob Trier wrote:
SCSi wrote:
Voting for all these magical items brings me back to the days of high school. When I blew a crapload of cash (to me back then) at my local gaming store on all the volumes of the 2nd ed Encyclopedia Magica and spending hour upon hour reading the vast amount of awesome magical items that were in those books. Stuff that I would have never of thought of myself but would be so cool if my PC would have. Makes me wish Paizo would take all the good items (that didnt win the competition, but are well written nonetheless) and make a similar volume of books. Theres way too much creativeness in this competition without having it shared in a few tomes to be passed down to your gamer kids.
A bunch of items from various years of RPG Superstar were included in Ultimate Equipment. It was just a small percentage of all the Top 32 items, but as far as I know, it is the only place Paizo have published any of the material from the contest, apart from the winning module obviously.

While not Paizo-published, precisely, there was the article from KQ # 16 that reprinted a selection of the top 32 items from RPGSS '10. (A number of which then went on to later publication in UE)


Cthulhudrew wrote:
Drejk wrote:
People submitted various cat-lord's items because ring of the master cat would be automatically disqualified, both as a ring and an artifact.
I still love the first two Gord books. I've reread them more times than I can count.

Spoiler:
I have never read Gord books. I was referring to Ancient Domains Of Mystery, where it is (quite possibly inspired by Gord books) the artifact that you get from cat lord if you hadn't killed any feline before you met him. It's a challenge, really, because chances of meeting hostile cat on your way to meet him are quite high.

Argh. I saw great channeling item but hadn't copied it to my keep folder. I hope I will see it again.

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Knot vs. Knot! A challenge worthy of Alexander the Great!


Are there three cat-lord items or more?


*scratches at the timer*

Liberty's Edge Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8

If you keep scratching at the timer, you're only going to get more Cat-Lord items.


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Noooo!


Spell-in-a-can versus more flavorful (crypto) spell-in-a-can.


Rogues-need-not-apply item. At least it won't pickpocket party members like the real rogue.

I think it might be a bit too costly for its abilities. A bit.

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Heh. Both items have their own command word.

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Second time I've seen my item post-cull. While there are some things I would change about it, I don't believe there to be any problems or formatting errors in the item itself. And right now, that's enough for me.


Jrcmarine wrote:
GM i was referring to the other Star Trek item that does a lot of damage.

Oh, not the replicator then.

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Maybe I should be writing a monster but nope, I'm voting.

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James Risner wrote:

857 votes since cull, 525 unique items, 25 remaining known that I have yet to see. That makes 550 items minimum.

If you have seen unique items since the cull that are not on the post cull item list on the other thread could youadd them too it maybe (or PM the person who is keeping that list with a list of items you've seen post cull that are not on it)... so that people who might be checking that list to see if their item made it through can have a load taken off their mind.

I know I have not seen my item post cull while voting, and only know it made it through the cull because of the list on that thread.

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At least 3 items that, when worn, risk metal poisoning for the user.


Once per day for 1d4 round it does what for what price? Meh.

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Well, it could be written as Straw Hat, no harm in wording, but, as is i like more.

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Like the gloves, don't like much aerosols...

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Rather a nice nap than cover my hands with poisonous metal.

Silver Crusade Dedicated Voter Season 7

Lots of baseball-type gloves... if you catch my drift...

Silver Crusade Dedicated Voter Season 7

Where is the on/off button on this thing that keeps it from killing you?


That one item with name that makes me think of item I submitted for JBE contest... It wasn't accepted, BTW.

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