
Ecaterina Ducaird |

At least it's not a 5000gp diamond....
We save the diamonds for the number of people casting "Raise Thread" around here. Either that or for resto's for the wis damage inflicted reading Pally fall and alignment threads.
Though given the cost of Taliskers 30y old... anyone remember the GP -> dollar conversion that someone ran up based on beer? Or what thread it lived in?

Xaratherus |

There's no guaranteed number. In a lot of instances it's less dependent on number of FAQs and more dependent on the complexity of the topic\answer or what the designers are currently focused on.
Keep in mind last week was Gencon, so they're probably playing catch-up on their regular work (as someone who's attended a [non-gaming] convention as an employee I can definitely attest to there being little to no time for your regular workload while it's going on).

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How many more FAQ's do we need? Geez...
There's no guaranteed number. In a lot of instances it's less dependent on number of FAQs and more dependent on the complexity of the topic\answer or what the designers are currently focused on.
Keep in mind last week was Gencon, so they're probably playing catch-up on their regular work (as someone who's attended a [non-gaming] convention as an employee I can definitely attest to there being little to no time for your regular workload while it's going on).
I knew the delay was because of the con, I just wondered if there was a fixed number or not.
I believe that as far as a threshold number, we've already passed it. I forget who indicated that. That said, there isn't just catching up with regular work to do post-Gencon. There's also post-Gencon recovery to do.
This thread has 51 FAQ flags. That's more than enough. The Design Team will get around to it when they're able / when they feel like it. My reference for the number::
BTW, no need to bump this, 27 flags places it fairly high in the list of FAQ hotspots.

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Since GenCon, it's been over a month since the Pathfinder Design Team has answered anything.
It seems they like to do things in short, big bursts.
So, until the next burst pops up, we must be patient.
Now that I am back from GenCon and my post-GC road trip, I mean to post some meta-FAQs about how to best use the FAQ system.
It terms of how the FAQ flagging works, it doesn't matter if people create a new thread and flag it or if they go back to the original thread, make a new comment, and flag that—it all goes to the same place.

Xaratherus |
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Xaratherus wrote:Isn't it a Wildblooded variant of the Maestro bloodline?Ssalarn wrote:I'll have to take a look at the Modest Mouse Bloodline and see what it gives you.Xaratherus wrote:We should all float on, all right?I'm not sure whether or not my Bloodline gave me the spell to do that.....
If it's not already, give me a couple of days and I'll write it up, lol.

Mythic +10 Artifact Toaster |
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Ssalarn wrote:If it's not already, give me a couple of days and I'll write it up, lol.Xaratherus wrote:Isn't it a Wildblooded variant of the Maestro bloodline?Ssalarn wrote:I'll have to take a look at the Modest Mouse Bloodline and see what it gives you.Xaratherus wrote:We should all float on, all right?I'm not sure whether or not my Bloodline gave me the spell to do that.....
...please do

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I'm not sure I see the issue: "Bloodline" (and "Patron") are separate class abilities of the Sorcerer and Witch respectively. These class features happen to grant bonus spells as you take levels in the base classes, but not if you PrC out.
The overall design goal in PF is to reward you for staying single-classed and to punish multiclassing/PrCing - this is just another way of doing that.
And yes, it means that Sorcerers and Witches are weaker if they multiclass. They don't need any additional help anyway.

james maissen |
I'm not sure I see the issue: "Bloodline" (and "Patron") are separate class abilities of the Sorcerer and Witch respectively. These class features happen to grant bonus spells as you take levels in the base classes, but not if you PrC out.
Read the thread.
And the +1 spellcasting was to make you essentially the higher level as far as casting went, this conflicts with your other.. the question is which wins.
The wording is fairly clear. You gain certain things, none of which are the entirety of a class ability. The designation of class ability is a red herring.
Rather it is spells per day, increased effective caster level, and (if spontaneous) spells known.
People want to claim that there are spells known that aren't spells known, but even if they are spelled out as spells known, don't like it. It boils down to wanting a result rather than merely reading the wording.
-James

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Psyren wrote:I'm not sure I see the issue: "Bloodline" (and "Patron") are separate class abilities of the Sorcerer and Witch respectively. These class features happen to grant bonus spells as you take levels in the base classes, but not if you PrC out.
Read the thread.
And the +1 spellcasting was to make you essentially the higher level as far as casting went, this conflicts with your other.. the question is which wins.
The wording is fairly clear. You gain certain things, none of which are the entirety of a class ability. The designation of class ability is a red herring.
Rather it is spells per day, increased effective caster level, and (if spontaneous) spells known.
People want to claim that there are spells known that aren't spells known, but even if they are spelled out as spells known, don't like it. It boils down to wanting a result rather than merely reading the wording.
-James
And once again you attempt to be as dismissive as possible of the people who disagree with you. But we'll see who is wanting a result rather than merely reading the wording when it does get FAQ'd.

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Psyren wrote:I'm not sure I see the issue: "Bloodline" (and "Patron") are separate class abilities of the Sorcerer and Witch respectively. These class features happen to grant bonus spells as you take levels in the base classes, but not if you PrC out.
Read the thread.
And the +1 spellcasting was to make you essentially the higher level as far as casting went, this conflicts with your other.. the question is which wins.
The wording is fairly clear. You gain certain things, none of which are the entirety of a class ability. The designation of class ability is a red herring.
Rather it is spells per day, increased effective caster level, and (if spontaneous) spells known.
People want to claim that there are spells known that aren't spells known, but even if they are spelled out as spells known, don't like it. It boils down to wanting a result rather than merely reading the wording.
-James
And as some folks have pointed out, there are things that function as Spells Known without being explicitly stated as Spells Known. Bloodline Spells are on that list of things that aren't explicitly called out as Spells Known, with the exception of a few Bloodline Abilities that are separate from Spells Known. Hence the debate. The wording interpretation is open-ended, especially with some of the things that are included in some PrCs over others.

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Read the thread.
Don't need to. I know both sides. I just disagree.
And the +1 spellcasting was to make you essentially the higher level as far as casting went,
As far as CASTING. Not other class features. Nothing in the "Special" column gets advanced by a PrC unless specifically called out. Your argument is "the rules don't say I can't!" Which isn't how rules work.