RDM42 |
We are brainstorming over here on ways we can get the spam at bay. Currently it's been pushed back by some higher priority projects, but we appreciate all the ideas being brought up. Hopefully we can implement something soon. In the meantime, thank you for helping us isolate these accounts :)
Make it so a new account can only respond to threads not post new ones until they reach a certain time period or post count?
Or during this possible "probation period". Be it a week a day whatever - they can only post x number of threads meaning the spamming is detected by content but it isn't a flood?
FuelDrop |
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Chris Lambertz wrote:We are brainstorming over here on ways we can get the spam at bay. Currently it's been pushed back by some higher priority projects, but we appreciate all the ideas being brought up. Hopefully we can implement something soon. In the meantime, thank you for helping us isolate these accounts :)Make it so a new account can only respond to threads not post new ones until they reach a certain time period or post count?
5 minutes later random threads will be getting filled with spam. Not a great solution, sorry.
Charles Scholz |
They spawn faster than I can flag them. Definately a bot.
Also, they are slowing down the Games Forum.
I just noticed, the spam is mostly in the Games Forum.
I wonder if the bot is targeting forum names that have "Forum" in them.
If that is the case, could a change of name solve the proplem?
Lissa Guillet Assistant Software Developer |
Ross Byers RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32 |
Also, found this while searching on a lark.
No posts, no reviews, just a profile page filled with the same spam.
This profile is still there.
Joana |
He's ba-ack. 30 posts in 10 minutes so far....
EDIT: 61 posts in 20 minutes.
EDIT again: 90 posts in 30 minutes.
EDIT again: 104 in 40 minutes. He's slowed down. :P
Lissa Guillet Assistant Software Developer |
NobodysHome |
Just to go out on a limb and try to be constructive, I know that you're limited by the account management software you're using, but is there some kind of "trial user" setting you can use?
- Trial users may make only one post per 30 minutes (adjustable based on complaints from REAL trial users)
- Trial users become real users after 30 days.
I don't know. They could still work past that, but it would at least take effort, and this seems more like someone who's just messing with Paizo because it's easy.
Or we take the "spamming this board isn't worth it" approach and get 50-60 dedicated Paizo users who will open communications via e-mail/phone and just waste oodles of the spammers' time. My favorite-ever phone solicitation was some poor guy who had to read me a 2-minute prepared speech. So I said, "What?" and he was required to repeat it. I said, "What?" again and he hung up on me and never called back.
If we have the time, wasting other peoples' time can be useful.
Charles Scholz |
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Just to go out on a limb and try to be constructive, I know that you're limited by the account management software you're using, but is there some kind of "trial user" setting you can use?
- Trial users may make only one post per 30 minutes (adjustable based on complaints from REAL trial users)
- Trial users become real users after 30 days.
An alternative could be those trial users can't start a new thread for 30 days. I don't know if their bot allows them to post to existing threads.
NobodysHome |
NobodysHome wrote:Just to go out on a limb and try to be constructive, I know that you're limited by the account management software you're using, but is there some kind of "trial user" setting you can use?
- Trial users may make only one post per 30 minutes (adjustable based on complaints from REAL trial users)
- Trial users become real users after 30 days.An alternative could be those trial users can't start a new thread for 30 days. I don't know if their bot allows them to post to existing threads.
Really quite the awesome idea. Thanks, Charles!
Lissa Guillet Assistant Software Developer |
Is this the reason the server goblins have been showing up more often?
I don't believe it is, but I've not investigated it fully. We had some reboots and that mucked some stuff up as well as a small bit of hardware failure. There's been some process changes and basically a lot is going on under the hood that has changed and that may mean some adjustment further down the line. But now that I've got a handle on some other problems I'm going to be looking into that problem a little later today. Basically, the servers are getting overloaded occasionally, and I believe a lot of that is from restarts where we pull in a lot of data right up front. It may mean we have to change the way we are doing that or figure a better way to deal with it or maybe even expand hardware.
But dealing with spammers is also priority and we'll see how that interacts. It could be that there is an excess of traffic being generated from spammers checking our site or something. We are however aware and trying to work though it.
Orfamay Quest |
But dealing with spammers is also priority and we'll see how that interacts. It could be that there is an excess of traffic being generated from spammers checking our site or something. We are however aware and trying to work though it.
How do the IP request patterns look? Are you getting unusual waves of hits from Ruritania?
Sorry, let me rephrase that. You may find it useful to look at see if these outages are related to waves of hits from some unusual spot. Obviously it's way out of line for me to ask to see your IP logs, but I don't think it's inappropriate to suggest a possible line of investigation.
In_digo |
Just to go out on a limb and try to be constructive, I know that you're limited by the account management software you're using, but is there some kind of "trial user" setting you can use?
- Trial users may make only one post per 30 minutes (adjustable based on complaints from REAL trial users)
- Trial users become real users after 30 days.I don't know. They could still work past that, but it would at least take effort, and this seems more like someone who's just messing with Paizo because it's easy.
Or we take the "spamming this board isn't worth it" approach and get 50-60 dedicated Paizo users who will open communications via e-mail/phone and just waste oodles of the spammers' time. My favorite-ever phone solicitation was some poor guy who had to read me a 2-minute prepared speech. So I said, "What?" and he was required to repeat it. I said, "What?" again and he hung up on me and never called back.
If we have the time, wasting other peoples' time can be useful.
One small problem could be spammers making accounts on a regular basis, and allowing them to sit for a month to run the time out. Perhaps make it based on number of posts instead of a time limit. If an account makes enough posts without being flagged for spam, they could break out of the trial.