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They didn't use the eagles because doing so would have defeated the purpose of a stealthy mission—the eagles are conspicuous and would have been immediately targeted by the Nazgul or the crebain swarms, not to mention archers on the enormous walls. Realizing the danger, Sauron would have put all his guards on the volcano, making it impossible to get the ring in without landing. Additionally, the eagles were their own sentient race, and they were never keen on going into danger. And I do wonder how flight would have worked as the ring got heavier and heavier.
*Literally cannot help but do this*
Thank you.
*Saved ME from being compelled to do so*
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They didn't use the eagles because doing so would have defeated the purpose of a stealthy mission—the eagles are conspicuous and would have been immediately targeted by the Nazgul or the crebain swarms, not to mention archers on the enormous walls. Realizing the danger, Sauron would have put all his guards on the volcano, making it impossible to get the ring in without landing. Additionally, the eagles were their own sentient race, and they were never keen on going into danger. And I do wonder how flight would have worked as the ring got heavier and heavier.
*Literally cannot help but do this*
Thank you.
*Saved ME from being compelled to do so*
That's why you have Aragorn and company do what they ended up doing at the end anyway: assault the front gate to hold Sauron's attention. We know it worked, so why wouldn't it have still worked if they'd done it earlier while Frodo was air-dropping the ring into the Volcano?
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They didn't use the eagles because doing so would have defeated the purpose of a stealthy mission—the eagles are conspicuous and would have been immediately targeted by the Nazgul or the crebain swarms, not to mention archers on the enormous walls. Realizing the danger, Sauron would have put all his guards on the volcano, making it impossible to get the ring in without landing. Additionally, the eagles were their own sentient race, and they were never keen on going into danger. And I do wonder how flight would have worked as the ring got heavier and heavier.
*Literally cannot help but do this*
I was being 100% facetious. I also just finished Star Trek: Insurrection last night (just... wat) so my grip on humor is a little :\ and I kinda want to toss the entire cast of characters into a very dark pit... maybe with fire... and endless falling... possibly in an abandoned mine...
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Briefly back to LotR... I seem to recall this NSFW and exceptionally graphic-languaged thingy where Boromir ultimately suggests launching Frodo into Mordor... via catapult.
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That's why you have Aragorn and company do what they ended up doing at the end anyway: assault the front gate to hold Sauron's attention. We know it worked, so why wouldn't it have still worked if they'd done it earlier while Frodo was air-dropping the ring into the Volcano?They didn't use the eagles because doing so would have defeated the purpose of a stealthy mission—the eagles are conspicuous and would have been immediately targeted by the Nazgul or the crebain swarms, not to mention archers on the enormous walls. Realizing the danger, Sauron would have put all his guards on the volcano, making it impossible to get the ring in without landing. Additionally, the eagles were their own sentient race, and they were never keen on going into danger. And I do wonder how flight would have worked as the ring got heavier and heavier.
*Literally cannot help but do this*
Thank you.
*Saved ME from being compelled to do so*
*tries to resist for not even two seconds*
Because—and this is important—Sauron didn't know his enemies wanted to destroy the ring. He was consumed by selfish desire for power, and he assumed everyone else was, too (kind of sad, really). He was sure someone like Aragorn or Gandalf would take the ring and wield it against him. That's why the diversion worked. He didn't know the ring was in peril, but they needed him to go all-out away from the volcano, so the alliance of free peoples moved all their troops up to Mordor. They presented themselves as bait to give the sneaky hobbitses a chance.
But if Sauron had actually realized they were taking the ring to Mordor, it wouldn't have mattered if elves, dwarves, and the combined forces of Gondor, Rohan, Southerlings, Redwall and Narnia were gathered at his gates, every single f@@!ing minion would've been brought straight to Mount Doom to turtle the hell up. Because if The Ring goes into the fire, it's endgame. If Sauron sees one of Manwë's birds making a beeline for Doom, that is all that matters.
Speed and firepower wouldn't have been enough—the enemy had superior speed with the Nazgul and Crebain and superior firepower with his armies. The Fellowship was designed as a stealth team, specifically to keep Sauron unsure of what his enemy's real plan was. That's also why Aragorn contacted Sauron with the magic scrying ball thingy: To make Sauron think the ring was coming into possession of someone far, far from its true destination.
I was being 100% facetious. I also just finished Star Trek: Insurrection last night (just... wat) so my grip on humor is a little :\ and I kinda want to toss the entire cast of characters into a very dark pit... maybe with fire... and endless falling... possibly in an abandoned mine...
Yeah, and to be clear, it's still a narrative flaw that they never really touch on the eagles while using them as deus ex machina so much. I just can't help but unleash this whenever anyone makes that joke.
My sister (a much bigger Tolkien nerd than I am) and I have a running gag related to this: "Why didn't they just send a balrog?"
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Briefly back to LotR... I seem to recall this NSFW and exceptionally graphic-languaged thingy where Boromir ultimately suggests launching Frodo into Mordor... via catapult.
No, see, this wouldn't have worked, because the Nazgul would have caught him and guys help I can't stop
Okay, look, the tl;dr of it is that a rapid flight to Mount Doom was just too risky to be worth it. Sending the friendly Maia, some high-level martials and some rogues was a safer, steadier bet, though as Gandalf said: There never was much hope.
Okay, I'm done derailing now. Honest.
Briefly back to LotR... I seem to recall this NSFW and exceptionally graphic-languaged thingy where Boromir ultimately suggests launching Frodo into Mordor... via catapult.
Wasn't that a chapter Tolkien cut? Spitballing In Rivendell? There was also a suggestion from someone (Glorfindel?) that they coat the ring in butter and let the halflings have at it after which, Gandalf was to have yelled "YOU SHALL NOT PASS!"
Wait, when did this turn into the "Flog a Dead Horse" thread?
It didn't. Dead Horse isn't here, is he?
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It didn't. Dead Horse isn't here, is he?
I haven't seen him around lately.
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He is the "soil" in which fears are rooted.Sara Marie: Cosmo, as usual, you have found the root of my fears.Wait, isn't Cosmo supposed to be the root of your fears? Or has he outsourced?
Ha! Those pamphlets I handed out are already taking effect.
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Diego: Can we have a "Answer the phone like Batman" day?
Diego: And when someone calls to ask "Why haven't I received my order yet?
Diego: We can use our Christian Bale voice and say "WHERE IS IT?!?" and hang up.
In my college freshman dorm (back in the '80s), there was a public phone in the common room that only made on-campus calls.
It was red.
If the phone rang, you were supposed to pick it up and say (in your best Adam West inpression) "Yes, Commisioner?!"
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Sara Marie: "Every time you make a rule, you take away a choice. And choice, with all its illuminating repercussions, is the fuel for learning."*
Chris: my choice involves sweet cleansing fire
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Purveyor of bovine intoxicants.katina: your cow will be SLIIIIIIGHTLY less tipsy than our cowsDesignated Cattle-Driver?
Korova Milk Bar?
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katina: your cow will be SLIIIIIIGHTLY less tipsy than our cows
An udder round?
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I don't have beef with it. Sorry for horning in on the discussion, though. I'll hoof to do better next time. But hay its all in fun right?
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You guys won't heifer learn, will you?
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There isn't much else to do when it's Friesian out.
This must be stopped. When will someone get up the gumption and take the bull by the horns?!?
This must be stopped. When will someone get up the gumption and take the bull by the horns?!?
The problem with that is that we were talking of matters of cows, not bulls. Dare ye go there?
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KC's Law of Pun Variance: The length of a pun war is directly proportional to the likelihood of it expanding beyond its original subject, always expanding to the next largest grouping—from fish to marine creatures to the ocean, from cows to bovines to farm animals, etc. The sole exception is bears. It is entirely impawsible to run out of bear puns.
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I came pretty clawse
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I'll de-fur to the experts.
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Those 2 things are the same thing.
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Dear Dora,
It's happening again...
*Sobs forever*
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The best part is that Diego hates puns but loves cows, so I suspect he finds cow puns to be dairy upsetting.
This is a cow-rule and unmoosual punishment.
Poor Diego.
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No easy teat.
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So...
I've skimmed the most recent posts and this is only two percent of the whole milk discussion.
Clearly, more pun-ishment is required.