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Might have a job! Waiting on callback #2.


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Might wanna rethink your interview attire.


Scintillae wrote:
Might wanna rethink your interview attire.

Depends on the job. Dress appropriately for the work involved. ;)

(I have no idea what work might be involved. Could be inside a nuclear reactor or waste treatment plant for all I know. I do know I wouldn't be caught naked in either of those places.)

Scarab Sages

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Vanykrye wrote:

So Friday night, after 6pm, one of the Ops managers from my office calls my personal cell. I decide to not answer. She texts me.

"Hey, just a quick question. How do I convert a jpeg to a pdf?"

Sigh. Fine. Reply.

Today I find out that she was asking for her kid's homework.

I have never before worked at a company where people thought it was perfectly acceptable to call their corporate IT personnel with that kind of stuff.

I have opinions about this.

Involving blunt objects.
And disabeling that persons account.


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Freehold DM wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
she was trying to be efficient. I would have gotten her one of those bodysuits from Dune.

No, I hated Dune.

One of the worst movies ever made, slightly above George of the Jungle 2 but below the first George of the Jungle.

Wooow never heard of anyone hating dune before.

David Lynch's Dune is best appreciated after snorting a couple lines of Jodorowsky with chaser big bong hit of Zardoz, man.


Woran wrote:
Anxiety went to deep sadness went to crying a bunch. Now I'm feeling a lot better.

Belated offers of hugs and cookies.

Edit: Glad you're feeling better today.


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Vanykrye wrote:

So Friday night, after 6pm, one of the Ops managers from my office calls my personal cell. I decide to not answer. She texts me.

"Hey, just a quick question. How do I convert a jpeg to a pdf?"

Sigh. Fine. Reply.

Today I find out that she was asking for her kid's homework.

I have never before worked at a company where people thought it was perfectly acceptable to call their corporate IT personnel with that kind of stuff.

Yeah, *I* just got irritated because an instructor called during my lunch hour with some mission-critical questions.

Valid, real questions, with a valid, real deadline, so he was absolutely right to interrupt my lunch.

And I was still irritated at it.

Which is why I will never work in IT.

Silver Crusade

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Freehold DM wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Y-WING FOREVER
I misread this as “Y-Fronts Forever,“ and I figured you were very passionate about old school underwear.
which is hilarious as I dont wear underwear.

NOW I'M FREEEEEEEEEE....

FREE BALLIN'...

(with great apologies to Tom Petty)

greatest feeling in the world.

Edit: Fourth greatest.

I love that you keep a ranking.

Silver Crusade

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Orthos wrote:
Might have a job! Waiting on callback #2.

YOU GOT THIS! OWN THAT S+@~!!!

Pardon my exuberant language.


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Callback got. Interview tomorrow at 1. Yaaaaaaaaaay!!


Orthos wrote:
Callback got. Interview tomorrow at 1. Yaaaaaaaaaay!!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOO


Freehold DM wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Y-WING FOREVER
I misread this as “Y-Fronts Forever,“ and I figured you were very passionate about old school underwear.
which is hilarious as I dont wear underwear.

NOW I'M FREEEEEEEEEE....

FREE BALLIN'...

(with great apologies to Tom Petty)

greatest feeling in the world.

Edit: Fourth greatest.

Chafin' away,

On the thin ice of a new day


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Orthos wrote:
Callback got. Interview tomorrow at 1. Yaaaaaaaaaay!!

My cousin and I agreed on a life-rule in college that any time you owned more computers than pants you had to get rid of some computers or buy some pants.

My boyfriend used that line during a job interview once, and swears that saying he had more computers than pants is what got him the offer. So maybe being naked when you posted about the call back is an Important Sign Of Some Significance.

Maybe you need to buy some pants.


G&++~@mit, I thought I'd never have to convolve two math functions again!


Orthos wrote:
Callback got. Interview tomorrow at 1. Yaaaaaaaaaay!!

Lets hope they won't expect you to stay nude for the interview...


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They say dress for the job you want, but I don't think my interviewer will take it kindly if I steal his clothes.


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
They say dress for the job you want, but I don't think my interviewer will take it kindly if I steal his clothes.

It could be a skills challenge.


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
It hurts your very soul when you're almost 40 and even fast food joints are rejecting you for jobs.

So... wrong mindset.

Know who they hire at fast food joints? Young kids either in or just out of high school so they can look "hip" and "cool" (the places, not the kids). It's 100% an image thing. Starbucks is the same. When was the last time you were served at a fast food/coffee place by someone over 30?

It's not that "even fast food joints are rejecting you". It's that you're on the reverse end of one of the most flagrant examples of ageism of any industry in the world, and it's generally accepted because they're low-end jobs that pay under $20/hour.

If I were you and I were looking at retail, I'd look at grocery stores and, if you have one, a Target.

I've heard good things from the people around here who work at Trader Joe's, Safeway, and Target.

I have heard nothing but nightmares coming out of Wal*Mart and K*Mart. Apparently having "Mart" in the name makes you a horrible place to work.

But as things re-open, I think grocery stores will see an upswing, and even though grocery store customers are horrible, they're still nowhere near as bad as fast food customers.


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Speaking of "the job I want", it's not what I'm doing today.

Life is pretty easy when you have a set of standards that everyone adheres to. We're handed a PowerPoint template. We're told, "Use the fonts in the template. Do not change them. Use the arrows in the template. Do not change them. Use the colors in the template. Do not change them. If you violate any of these rules, we may refuse to publish your content."

So:
(1) My colleagues (current and former) ignored the rules and changed stuff... for no good reason. I mean, seriously. "I think this arrow looks better in a 3.75 thickness instead of a 4 thickness, so I'll go ahead and change it."

(2) Production services ignored their threats and published the courses anyway.

I've inherited a course where pretty much every slide is another standards violation. So I'm getting paid to change fonts and resize arrows.

I guess it's killer work if you can get it, but holy **** is it boring!


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What I really like about this prospective job is that they have an option for work-from-home once you're trained enough to be let off the leash, and will provide the computer and mechanisms needed to do said job. Given they want me up and at the office by 6:30 AM on most days that will be an immense improvement to my available sanity.

As it is, I imagine I will be reinvigorating my caffeine habit.


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So, this may offend some, but it tickles the living carp of of me.

I'm taking my annual ethics training:
As part of it, you're supposed to help various people with ethics problems. And anyone can pass this training without listening to or even reading anything. Why?

Because the "bad guy" is always the white male. They have a hugely diverse cast, with many nationalities represented, but it doesn't matter. The villain of the story will always be the white male in all training this group produces. If there are multiple white males, the criminal will be the older one. Always.

It's just kind of funny.


NobodysHome wrote:

So, this may offend some, but it tickles the living carp of of me.

** spoiler omitted **

This seems counterproductive for the intended purpose.

I'm normally prone to roll my eyes at accusations of "virtue signaling" but....


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Orthos wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

So, this may offend some, but it tickles the living carp of of me.

** spoiler omitted **

This seems counterproductive for the intended purpose.

I'm normally prone to roll my eyes at accusations of "virtue signaling" but....

"Amit, Kendra, John, and Wu were at a conference..."

"It was John! Whatever John proposed was unethical!"
"But... you haven't even listened to the scenario yet!"
"It doesn't matter! I hate John, that dirty, corrupt, so-and-so!"
"Well, let's just look... oh. Um. You're right! OK. Next scenario..."


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Orthos wrote:
I'm normally prone to roll my eyes at accusations of "virtue signaling" but....

Is that where I put on a hat and drive in the left lane at 50 mph with my left turn signal blinking?


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NobodysHome wrote:
Orthos wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

So, this may offend some, but it tickles the living carp of of me.

** spoiler omitted **

This seems counterproductive for the intended purpose.

I'm normally prone to roll my eyes at accusations of "virtue signaling" but....

"Amit, Kendra, John, and Wu were at a conference..."

"It was John! Whatever John proposed was unethical!"
"But... you haven't even listened to the scenario yet!"
"It doesn't matter! I hate John, that dirty, corrupt, so-and-so!"
"Well, let's just look... oh. Um. You're right! OK. Next scenario..."

I keep thinking that's stupid until I realize just how many times I have been not just the only black man in the room or even the building but the only non white person for miles upon miles around.


Freehold DM wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Orthos wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

So, this may offend some, but it tickles the living carp of of me.

** spoiler omitted **

This seems counterproductive for the intended purpose.

I'm normally prone to roll my eyes at accusations of "virtue signaling" but....

"Amit, Kendra, John, and Wu were at a conference..."

"It was John! Whatever John proposed was unethical!"
"But... you haven't even listened to the scenario yet!"
"It doesn't matter! I hate John, that dirty, corrupt, so-and-so!"
"Well, let's just look... oh. Um. You're right! OK. Next scenario..."
I keep thinking that's stupid until I realize just how many times I have been not just the only black man in the room or even the building but the only non white person for miles upon miles around.

It's one of those things that, growing up in New York or California, you don't really think about. Then you travel and you realize it's really important.

So, for me, growing up all the PBS specials talked about how you could be proud to be black, or Asian American, or Latin American, or Italian American, but if you're a white kid just shut the **** up. We had a mix of races at school, and I think of the 3.4% black population of Albany I have half of them on my block. (OK, not really. But we have two black families on the block and a couple of Asian families. What surprises me more than anything else is the lack of Indian families on my block.)

The running joke among us white kids was to find a racially-mixed group to hang out with, then asking, "Where's my wheelchair?"

Because the white kid was always the one in the wheelchair.

I dunno; the kids around here got it.

Then you go somewhere else and you ask, "Er, where are all your blacks, Asians, and Hispanics?"


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NobodysHome wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Orthos wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

So, this may offend some, but it tickles the living carp of of me.

** spoiler omitted **

This seems counterproductive for the intended purpose.

I'm normally prone to roll my eyes at accusations of "virtue signaling" but....

"Amit, Kendra, John, and Wu were at a conference..."

"It was John! Whatever John proposed was unethical!"
"But... you haven't even listened to the scenario yet!"
"It doesn't matter! I hate John, that dirty, corrupt, so-and-so!"
"Well, let's just look... oh. Um. You're right! OK. Next scenario..."
I keep thinking that's stupid until I realize just how many times I have been not just the only black man in the room or even the building but the only non white person for miles upon miles around.

It's one of those things that, growing up in New York or California, you don't really think about. Then you travel and you realize it's really important.

So, for me, growing up all the PBS specials talked about how you could be proud to be black, or Asian American, or Latin American, or Italian American, but if you're a white kid just shut the **** up. We had a mix of races at school, and I think of the 3.4% black population of Albany I have half of them on my block. (OK, not really. But we have two black families on the block and a couple of Asian families. What surprises me more than anything else is the lack of Indian families on my block.)

The running joke among us white kids was to find a racially-mixed group to hang out with, then asking, "Where's my wheelchair?"

Because the white kid was always the one in the wheelchair.

I dunno; the kids around here got it.

Then you go somewhere else and you ask, "Er, where are all your blacks, Asians, and Hispanics?"

its why I am so grateful for conventions. It reminds me of what life outside of New York is like.

I remember going to conventions and EVERYONE knowing my best friend and I were from New York. Where else would we be from?


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You misunderstand. I didn't apply for a fast food job first. I applied for it after my standards had been demolished from being rejected for other jobs, both within the categories you mentioned and without.

I didn't start out looking at fast food. I ended up there after months of soul crushing rejection in everything else. Nobody gets up in the morning and says "WOW I REALLY WANT A JOB AT ARBY'S!"

And then I got rejected for that too.

Oh, and then they ask me to explain "gaps in my resume" -

I dunno, maybe "because I couldn't get a job" you dumbass f*%&.

of course I don't say that.

Mostly because you need an interview to actually talk to someone, and I don't even get those anymore.


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It reminds me of the ethics classes for law school and the MPRE (multi-state professional responsibility exam).

If you ever had any doubt about the answer to the question (because sometimes the multiple choice format is wonky) it was
1) don't take the money
2) decline to represent the client because of the possibility of a conflict (some view this as a subset of 1)
3) rat out your colleagues


Why would you apply at Arby's, they're all a+!*&&!s.


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NobodysHome wrote:
Orthos wrote:
I'm normally prone to roll my eyes at accusations of "virtue signaling" but....
Is that where I put on a hat and drive in the left lane at 50 mph with my left turn signal blinking?

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. >.>


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Nylarthotep wrote:

It reminds me of the ethics classes for law school and the MPRE (multi-state professional responsibility exam).

If you ever had any doubt about the answer to the question (because sometimes the multiple choice format is wonky) it was
1) don't take the money
2) decline to represent the client because of the possibility of a conflict (some view this as a subset of 1)
3) rat out your colleagues

Wow! You've taken my ethics training!


The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

You misunderstand. I didn't apply for a fast food job first. I applied for it after my standards had been demolished from being rejected for other jobs, both within the categories you mentioned and without.

I didn't start out looking at fast food. I ended up there after months of soul crushing rejection in everything else. Nobody gets up in the morning and says "WOW I REALLY WANT A JOB AT ARBY'S!"

And then I got rejected for that too.

Oh, and then they ask me to explain "gaps in my resume" -

I dunno, maybe "because I couldn't get a job" you dumbass f$+$.

of course I don't say that.

Mostly because you need an interview to actually talk to someone, and I don't even get those anymore.

I'd double-favorite for the Arby's knock, but they won't let me.

Hmmm...

How big's the town? The last time I needed an "I need a job" job I went to the local stores and talked to the owners until I got a below-minimum-wage, under-the-counter job at a video store.

The problem is,
(1) You need a town that's big enough that there's a "shopping street" with a bunch of local places that hire locals to work 'em.
(2) Until COVID-19 is gone, hiring's going to be dead in the water for such places.

I'll keep thinking. Other than getting stuck being an eternal Uber/Lyft/GrubHub drone, I'm thinking local places with decent owners, but I've never even been to Ohio to my knowledge, much less know anyone/anything about it.

Silver Crusade

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NobodysHome wrote:

So, this may offend some, but it tickles the living carp of of me.

** spoiler omitted **

It is lazy, but it’s also the easiest solution to a conundrum.

They want their examples to be diverse (good), but there are only so many example scenarios to present. There is a real risk that a given representation will be the only of its kind - tokenism. That token representation becomes particularly problematic if that token representation turns out to be the criminal. The surest way to ensure your token representation is not accidentally resulting in a scenario where 100% of that demographic are criminals is to make sure none of them are.

There are better ways to handle it, but most companies producing that kind of content don’t bother.

Your other comment reminded me of the smiling, perfectly diverse group of students on the college brochures. In my experience the places that go to the biggest lengths to appear diverse are the ones least successful at actually attaining diversity.


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Celestial Healer wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

So, this may offend some, but it tickles the living carp of of me.

** spoiler omitted **

It is lazy, but it’s also the easiest solution to a conundrum.

They want their examples to be diverse (good), but there are only so many example scenarios to present. There is a real risk that a given representation will be the only of its kind - tokenism. That token representation becomes particularly problematic if that token representation turns out to be the criminal. The surest way to ensure your token representation is not accidentally resulting in a scenario where 100% of that demographic are criminals is to make sure none of them are.

There are better ways to handle it, but most companies producing that kind of content don’t bother.

Your other comment reminded me of the smiling, perfectly diverse group of students on the college brochures. In my experience the places that go to the biggest lengths to appear diverse are the ones least successful at actually attaining diversity.

Oh, I know darned well why they do it. I *did* grow up in the Bay Area. It just amuses me that they're so flagrant about it.

It is very much like the PBS shows of the 1990s and 2000s, where every group of friends had to have at least one representation from every major ethnic group, making them hilariously homogeneous in their heterogeneity.


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NobodysHome wrote:
How big's the town?

Our entire county has less than 50,000 people, most of whom live in Athens, the city the county is named after, many of whom are college students out of town since the Uni shut down (there was almost a huge protest over that, cause a lot of graduating seniors won't graduate now, but of course police threatened to arrest anyone on the street the night of the protest, because that would be peaceful gathering, and we know how the police feel about that.) The suburb in particular I live in has about...2000 people I wanna say.

And to answer the Cap's question, "because everyone else said no".

Continued in spoiler, because I have told this story before I think.:
Truth is since I had my mental breakdown in 2015, every job has paid less than and been s%@@tier than the previous. At one point I was making less (not even adjusting for inflation) than I had for the previous decade.

Turns out nobody wants to hire a guy who has panic attacks when he is at work, because it reminds him of a previous panic attack he had while he was at work, because it reminds him of a previous panic attack he had while he was at work...

Oh, but according to the government, who denied me any disability based assistance on four separate occasions, because both bipolar disorder and panic attack disorder aggregating to agoraphobia require "minor adjustments" for me to hold a normal life, I should be able to handle this just fine. No problems.

If said adjustments are leaving the house for less than an hour a day, an average of 2 days a week, and immediately repeating to your fiance "I WANT TO GO HOME" within half an hour of stepping away from your comfort zone, yeah, I guess minor adjustments sounds about right.

On the plus side, quarantining hasn't really changed my life in the slightest. If anything, the previous stimulus check saved my bacon the last two months.

But all this is on top of some severe depression setting in, and my daughter teething, which are horrible things to happen at the same time.

Which brings it's own problems:

Especially because I have had the "I really would hit the Control+Z combo if I could" thoughts, which make me feel like a f&@+ing horrible person, because I love my daughter more than I thought was humanly possible to love anything - and it doesn't make the thoughts go away. I feel like the most selfish monster in the world for even thinking it. Which leads to more depression...which leads...well...I think you get the point. Then she smiles at me and it goes away...for the two minutes until she starts screaming like she's being murdered for the next twenty.


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

You misunderstand. I didn't apply for a fast food job first. I applied for it after my standards had been demolished from being rejected for other jobs, both within the categories you mentioned and without.

I didn't start out looking at fast food. I ended up there after months of soul crushing rejection in everything else. Nobody gets up in the morning and says "WOW I REALLY WANT A JOB AT ARBY'S!"

>_>

<_<

But I like Arby's


You just need to change your name to Victor and get a job as a Facebook Troll or secret shopper.

If anyone stops and asks if you need anything just whisper conspiratorial like "I was never here".


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Reasons for gaps on a resume.

Florida is seriously f*%*ed up
Self actualization
Personal reflection
Florida is f~#%ed up
Caring for a family member
Killing f%@~ers on Xbox
Supporting your wife/girlfriend's career
Delusions of academic success
I mean, come on, have you ever been to Florida.


Sigh,
The only time I ever came close to $20/hour was before Katrina, when I was in Overtime.
I only ever actually HIT $20/hour in HOLIDAY overtime.

Still, when your paid hourly, and your working 80 to 90+(something) hours a week, the paychecks are lovely.
And since you obviously dont have time to go and SPEND any of it, your bank account looks lovely too!

This stay at home stuff is the ONLY time I have been happy to be on Salary.
Ever.

;)


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~remembers my time in Florida~ yes.


captain yesterday wrote:
The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
It hurts your very soul when you're almost 40 and even fast food joints are rejecting you for jobs.
I've been rejected by every fast food place except McDonald's, and I spent my two months there primarily being sexually harassed.

Holy cow WTF. Lawsuit man.

Fast food I think just doesn't like hiring older people in general if that makes you two feel better?


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Freehold DM wrote:
The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

You misunderstand. I didn't apply for a fast food job first. I applied for it after my standards had been demolished from being rejected for other jobs, both within the categories you mentioned and without.

I didn't start out looking at fast food. I ended up there after months of soul crushing rejection in everything else. Nobody gets up in the morning and says "WOW I REALLY WANT A JOB AT ARBY'S!"

>_>

<_<

But I like Arby's

;) Me too freehold shhh shhh. (curly fires are good.)


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spoiler Like NH style spoiler:
Friday should be interesting we got it cleared by corporate and some of us at work are going to be wearing BLM masks. Should be interesting as we get a lot of ... whats the term? Oh yeah Hicks staying with us.


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captain yesterday wrote:

Reasons for gaps on a resume.

Florida is seriously f#%%ed up
Self actualization
Personal reflection
Florida is f+@~ed up
Caring for a family member
Killing f%&~ers on Xbox
Supporting your wife/girlfriend's career
Delusions of academic success
I mean, come on, have you ever been to Florida.

Black Ops. Not the video game, but CIA stuff. Did I say CIA? No. Definitely not. You must have misheard me. I never worked for the CIA. *wink* No, I did not just wink. *wink wink* Why are you staring at my eye like that? I have never winked at someone in my entire life. *cough*need to know *cough* Sorry, it's kind of dusty in here. Reminds me of Afghanist---hounds. Afghan hounds. My uncle had one and your office smells like it. In a good(?) way.

I'll see myself out.


But also, yeah, the 10 months I lived in Florida were not my favorite.


I have nothing overly mean to say about Florida in the least bit.


Vidmaster7 agent of hydra wrote:
Florida is where old people go to die...

*glares threateningly*


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My wife sent me a heartwarming text that read, “If you're sleeping, send me your dreams. If you're laughing, send me your smile. If you're eating, send me a bite. If you're drinking, send me a sip. If you're crying, send me your tears. I love you!”

I replied, “I'm on the toilet, please advise…”


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The other day my 6 year old son asked me "Dad, what are condoms used for?"
I said "To avoid uncomfortable moments like these."

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