Pathfinder Adventure Path #184: The Ghouls Hunger (Blood Lords 4 of 6)

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How many underground ghoul nations are there anyway now that I think about it?

Pretty sure it's THE underground ghoul nation, given the mention of priest-king.

Pretty sure it's THE underground ghoul nation, given the mention of priest-king.

(this is joke at me not knowing anything about darklands lore because I'm waiting for non 3.5 darklands book and never read that one. Aka I have no idea if reference is obvious or if there are lot of them x'D

Darklands is my biggest hole on pathfinder lore knowledge x'D)

Yessss becoming a member of local government!

Do not deprive yourself of all the good things that have been written about the Darklands of Golarion for years, whether in setting books or in adventures. The setting is edition-agnostic after all.

Yessss becoming a member of local government!

And now I wonder about the loot system for this AP :-(

The PCs should be "less-than-good-hearted," so I think the loot system will be ok.

Downtime mechanics for PCs in a position of power and state authority is a fun treat.

did they announce the author yet?

The PCs should be "less-than-good-hearted," so I think the loot system will be ok.

I take bribes and use them for the betterment of the living gebbite minority. Starting with myself.

And here is another idea for a PC in this AP :-)

did they announce the author yet?

According to the Wiki

Zombie Feast - Mike Kimmel
Graveclaw - Jason Tondro
Field of Maidens - Jenny Jarzabski
The Ghouls Hunger - Leo Glass
A Taste of Ashes - Brian Duckwitz
Ghost King's Rage - Jessica Catalan

Grumpus wrote:

did they announce the author yet?

According to the Wiki

Zombie Feast - Mike Kimmel
Graveclaw - Jason Tondro
Field of Maidens - Jenny Jarzabski
The Ghouls Hunger - Leo Glass
A Taste of Ashes - Brian Duckwitz
Ghost King's Rage - Jessica Catalan

These were revealed at Gen Con, I believe. Jessica Catalan has done some of my favorite 2e work; I’m so eager to see her handle an explosive finale for this, potentially involving Nex.

Pretty sure it's THE underground ghoul nation, given the mention of priest-king.

Has Nemret Noktoria even been mentioned in 2E yet?

I think so? We had a Darklands adventure in Extinction Cure so it might have come up or in one of the Lost Omens books.

Ohhh Kabiri gets some love

Rysky wrote:

Pretty sure it's THE underground ghoul nation, given the mention of priest-king.

Has Nemret Noktoria even been mentioned in 2E yet?

Extinction Curse mentioned a cult of ghouls sworn to the empyreal lord Tanagaar who are fighting against it; it was in the backmatter on cults.

Ohhh Kabiri gets some love

*shudder*

Evan Tarlton wrote:

Rysky wrote:

Pretty sure it's THE underground ghoul nation, given the mention of priest-king.

Has Nemret Noktoria even been mentioned in 2E yet?

Extinction Curse mentioned a cult of ghouls sworn to the empyreal lord Tanagaar who are fighting against it; it was in the backmatter on cults.

Here's hoping we learn more about Tanagaar's Arrows!

I would also love to get a gazetteer of Nemret Noktoria while we're at it! Going begging. LOL

I would also love to get a gazetteer of Nemret Noktoria while we're at it! Going begging. LOL

From the offices of Expectation Management, while I did put some fun Kortash Khain stuff in here (for example—he thinks of himself as too good to "breathe" surface air, so when he must speak, he does so via a ghoul head/torso he carries around to telepathically command it to talk for him, and calls this thing his "Voice"), the entire adventure is set in/under Mechitar. It doesn't go to Nemret Noktoria, and no significant Nemret Noktoria info is included. Maybe in some far future adventure though, if folks are interested!

theLegend76 wrote:

I would also love to get a gazetteer of Nemret Noktoria while we're at it! Going begging. LOL

From the offices of Expectation Management, while I did put some fun Kortash Khain stuff in here (for example—he thinks of himself as too good to "breathe" surface air, so when he must speak, he does so via a ghoul head/torso he carries around to telepathically command it to talk for him, and calls this thing his "Voice"), the entire adventure is set in/under Mechitar. It doesn't go to Nemret Noktoria, and no significant Nemret Noktoria info is included. Maybe in some far future adventure though, if folks are interested!

…okay, that rules.

theLegend76 wrote:

I would also love to get a gazetteer of Nemret Noktoria while we're at it! Going begging. LOL

From the offices of Expectation Management, while I did put some fun Kortash Khain stuff in here (for example—he thinks of himself as too good to "breathe" surface air, so when he must speak, he does so via a ghoul head/torso he carries around to telepathically command it to talk for him, and calls this thing his "Voice"), the entire adventure is set in/under Mechitar. It doesn't go to Nemret Noktoria, and no significant Nemret Noktoria info is included. Maybe in some far future adventure though, if folks are interested!

Oooooo Suweet! Expectations exceeded. That is awesome, and what a narcissist! LOL I'll take every little tidbit you throw me. Nock me a Tanagaar's Arrow!

Has this hit any subscribers yet? I'm curious to hear how folks like it.

Hmm…the statement that we won’t be hearing anything about Nemret Noktoria, it has me wondering if we’d ever get a Lost Omens: The Darklands book?

It would be interesting to run a campaign where folks never go above ground, or in a flip of delving into the dark below, there is a quest of breaching the blinding land above.

Hmm…the statement that we won’t be hearing anything about Nemret Noktoria, it has me wondering if we’d ever get a Lost Omens: The Darklands book?

It would be interesting to run a campaign where folks never go above ground, or in a flip of delving into the dark below, there is a quest of breaching the blinding land above.

Worth noting that Nemret Noktoria got a page in Book of the Dead, as did a few other undead-heavy regions. I wouldn't read too much into the absence of a backmatter article on it here - it's pretty far away from Geb (underneath Osirion, if memory serves?), so much of the info there isn't too likely to factor into this AP.

I do have a thread on hyping up a hypothetical Darklands LO book, if that's a discussion you're interested in!

Has this hit any subscribers yet? I'm curious to hear how folks like it.

I’m sad to say it’s a pretty big step down from book 3, at least for me.

keftiu wrote:

Has this hit any subscribers yet? I'm curious to hear how folks like it.

I’m sad to say it’s a pretty big step down from book 3, at least for me.

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Sad to see the inevitable dungeon-delving rear its head in a political troubleshooter narrative.

Anything extra fun in the backmatter articles? I'm curious if the Kabriri section has any morsels, or if any new Archetypes are in this one.

The Kabriri section is a fantastic piece of lore. There are a lot of downtime activities in the backmatter for activities to improve reputation with different factions. There are a lot of really fun higher level feats added to the ghoul archetype which now make me want to have a ghoul PC in it. There’s also a powerful rare Kabriri-based spell and a ritual, but that’s it as far as backmatter material goes.

The Kabriri section is a fantastic piece of lore. There are a lot of downtime activities in the backmatter for activities to improve reputation with different factions. There are a lot of really fun higher level feats added to the ghoul archetype which now make me want to have a ghoul PC in it. There’s also a powerful rare Kabriri-based spell and a ritual, but that’s it as far as backmatter material goes.

Ghouls definitely felt like the most fun of the Undead Archetypes, so I'm glad to hear they got some more love. Thank you for the replies!

No problem! Yeah, ghouls were already my favorite of the archetype and the options in this book just make them even better.

Anyone happy to share what new creatures are in the Toolbox?

Anyone happy to share what new creatures are in the Toolbox?

Benjamin Tait wrote:

Anyone happy to share what new creatures are in the Toolbox?

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does the goul priest king get a statblock?

I just got this and saw the art on the first page of Chapter 1 and...now I can't un-see this! Either this was an intentional reference or one heck of a brilliant coincidence! XD

I just got this and saw the art on the first page of Chapter 1 and...now I can't un-see this! Either this was an intentional reference or one heck of a brilliant coincidence! XD

Coincidence as far as I know.

I just got this and saw the art on the first page of Chapter 1 and...now I can't un-see this! Either this was an intentional reference or one heck of a brilliant coincidence! XD

A reference to what? A random artwork from Deviantart? What kind of sense would that make?

Archpaladin Zousha wrote:

I just got this and saw the art on the first page of Chapter 1 and...now I can't un-see this! Either this was an intentional reference or one heck of a brilliant coincidence! XD

A reference to what? A random artwork from Deviantart? What kind of sense would that make?

It was a fairly popular meme recently.

Zaister wrote:

Archpaladin Zousha wrote:

I just got this and saw the art on the first page of Chapter 1 and...now I can't un-see this! Either this was an intentional reference or one heck of a brilliant coincidence! XD

A reference to what? A random artwork from Deviantart? What kind of sense would that make?

It was a fairly popular meme recently.

Ah, I see. Well... this art was ordered many months ago, only further cementing its status as a coincidence then, I guess.

It's very iconic type of composition in fantasy art tbh :D (that's why it made for good meme format I guess?)

Zaister wrote:

Archpaladin Zousha wrote:

I just got this and saw the art on the first page of Chapter 1 and...now I can't un-see this! Either this was an intentional reference or one heck of a brilliant coincidence! XD

A reference to what? A random artwork from Deviantart? What kind of sense would that make?

It was a fairly popular meme recently.

Oh, I must have missed that completely.

Zaister wrote:

Archpaladin Zousha wrote:

I just got this and saw the art on the first page of Chapter 1 and...now I can't un-see this! Either this was an intentional reference or one heck of a brilliant coincidence! XD

A reference to what? A random artwork from Deviantart? What kind of sense would that make?

It was a fairly popular meme recently.

In what context? I don't mean to derail things, feel free to private message it if you prefer but I also missed it.

I googled "Master's Blessing" after hearing that it was a meme and understood it from google pics

I love the way clicking on "7 new" in the message listing for a Product Discussion thread tries to force me to review the entire last page of the thread, instead of taking me directly to the first new message. NOT!

The software goes directly to the first new message in a non-Product Discussion thread. Why the difference? Also why, in the Product Discussion threads, does it always ask me to log in. I'm *already* logged in!

Edit add: It also takes me to the top of the page when I post a reply to the thread.

I love the way clicking on "7 new" in the message listing for a Product Discussion thread tries to force me to review the entire last page of the thread, instead of taking me directly to the first new message. NOT!

The software goes directly to the first new message in a non-Product Discussion thread. Why the difference? Also why, in the Product Discussion threads, does it always ask me to log in. I'm *already* logged in!

Edit add: It also takes me to the top of the page when I post a reply to the thread.

Manually changing the number by one in the url (the number after "#") usually work to teleport me to the right place. My guess is that it's a bug about the posts loading dynamically, and loading a little bit slower in a product page (maybe because it tries to load the review tab first?), and thus, the "scroll to the post" tries to fire before the post is loaded.

That makes sense. Must be a hard bug to track down, since it's been around at least as long as I have and I've been around here for eight years.

Edit: just tested this theory. Increasing the number by one had no effect, it still went to the top of the page. Decreasing the number by one, it went to the last message for about 0.1 second and then bounced immediately to the top of the page.

Stupid software. :-(

Hello,

When do you expect the availability of the foundryVTT module for The Ghouls Hunger ?

I do like they avoid statting Kortash Khan since besides him being level 23 creature, 2e doesn't have mythic equivalent yet (though I know that doesn't prevent mythic npcs or monsters being adapted to 2e) and his nature as mystic theurge means he had two long spell-lists and I don't think this is right book for introducing concept of caster that casts both arcane and divine spells :D (though 2e undead bloodline is divine list instead)

I do like sneaky reference of him being "a true hierophant of his faith" though and that he is "a force against that cannot be defeated save by the most mythic and legendary of foes." xD I love sneaky nod backs like this

Hello,

When do you expect the availability of the foundryVTT module for The Ghouls Hunger ?

It went live on Launch Day, yesterday. Not at midnight, but that day.

Oh right, forgot to mention in review I think this book has another example of effects of the post no slavery policy (as in one of encounters has indentured undead servants of one guy who are noted to have about one year of debt left)