Pathfinder Lost Omens: Knights of Lastwall

As far as we know has this been delayed?

No word so far. It's probably still too early to delay it if they haven't received it yet, so I would expect it to be on time unless they mention next month if it's being held up too.

Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:

As far as we know has this been delayed?

No word so far. It's probably still too early to delay it if they haven't received it yet, so I would expect it to be on time unless they mention next month if it's being held up too.

Too early to know. We don't expect it until late March for a late April release. We don't let things sit in the warehouse. They come in and we turn them around to international distributors. Normally. ;)

Can we hear the chapter titles?

Chapter 1: Introduction

That's kind of boring though, so why not the headers for each of the sections, too!

keftiu wrote:

Can we hear the chapter titles?

Chapter 1: Introduction

Chapter 2: Among the Knights
Chapter 3: Knights of Lastwall Options
Chapter 4: Knights of Lastwall Efforts

That's kind of boring though, so why not the headers for each of the sections, too!

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You’re awesome!

Super keen to see those Pantheons, and what the Knights are up to in the Broken Lands.

Other Archetypes - 80

Such a tease. Can we open that door some more?

Luis Loza wrote:

Other Archetypes - 80

Such a tease. Can we open that door some more?

It's only two to three pages for plural archetypes, so I wouldn't get toooo excited about there being a lot to reveal there.

keftiu wrote:

Can we hear the chapter titles?

Chapter 1: Introduction

Chapter 2: Among the Knights
Chapter 3: Knights of Lastwall Options
Chapter 4: Knights of Lastwall Efforts

That's kind of boring though, so why not the headers for each of the sections, too!

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Are the feats going to be reprints from older material or new?

This looks amazing!

cavernshark wrote:

Luis Loza wrote:

Other Archetypes - 80

Such a tease. Can we open that door some more?

It's only two to three pages for plural archetypes, so I wouldn't get toooo excited about there being a lot to reveal there.

You're underestimating my appetite for those pages. And making my argument for me! What's 1-3 archetype names between friends?

Unless something slipped by, all the mechanics except existing deities (Iomedae, Pharasma, etc.) in this book should be brand new.

hooray!!

Xethik wrote:

cavernshark wrote:

Luis Loza wrote:

Other Archetypes - 80

Such a tease. Can we open that door some more?

It's only two to three pages for plural archetypes, so I wouldn't get toooo excited about there being a lot to reveal there.

You're underestimating my appetite for those pages. And making my argument for me! What's 1-3 archetype names between friends?

Just to clarify, this doesn't provide new archetypes. Instead, it provides new feats for existing archetypes that are good fits for Knights of Lastwall like bastion and marshal.

New Marshal toys is an unexpected treat! If we can't get a full Warlord class, I'm very happy with this.

New class feats, and expansion feats for Bastion and Marshall? Dang, I'm gonna be so happy picking this up!

Thesre are not real chapter titles.. At least I don't think so.

I think that the presented chapter titles are supposed to be humorous.

Indeed. All aforementioned titles are completely fictitious and humorous in nature, meant to evoke jovial feelings of cheer and amusement. I apologize for any confusion this may have caused. I do not, never have, and is extremely unlikely to ever be privy to any information regarding the content and inner workings of Paizo's products or team.

Thank you for coming to my Knight Talk.
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That aside, thank you Luis for the actual chapter names and content. This is pretty exciting. I'm most interested in the Relationships and Equipment sections to be honest. New equipment is always fun for me, and I assume relationships will cover the Knights relations to other orders and organizations. And what I presume to be sections discussing the Knights activities through the Inner Sea Regions is a pleasant surprise indeed.

cavernshark wrote:

Xethik wrote:

cavernshark wrote:

Luis Loza wrote:

Other Archetypes - 80

Such a tease. Can we open that door some more?

It's only two to three pages for plural archetypes, so I wouldn't get toooo excited about there being a lot to reveal there.

You're underestimating my appetite for those pages. And making my argument for me! What's 1-3 archetype names between friends?

Just to clarify, this doesn't provide new archetypes. Instead, it provides new feats for existing archetypes that are good fits for Knights of Lastwall like bastion and marshal.

That sounds awesome!

We know the Knights are getting help from the Magaambya; I can't wait to see that get fleshed out!

Those new Pantheons (are we getting new individual deities?) are the most exciting bit of this for me by far, though. Arazni and Ragathiel are likely both getting some attention here, which should make a lot of their fans happy.

keftiu wrote:

Can we hear the chapter titles?

Chapter 1: Introduction

Chapter 2: Among the Knights
Chapter 3: Knights of Lastwall Options
Chapter 4: Knights of Lastwall Efforts

That's kind of boring though, so why not the headers for each of the sections, too!

** spoiler omitted **

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You are the bomb diggity Luis! This all looks amazing!

keftiu wrote:

Can we hear the chapter titles?

Chapter 1: Introduction

Chapter 2: Among the Knights
Chapter 3: Knights of Lastwall Options
Chapter 4: Knights of Lastwall Efforts

That's kind of boring though, so why not the headers for each of the sections, too!

** spoiler omitted **

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Oh hey, I recognize some of those chapter titles!

New Marshal toys is an unexpected treat! If we can't get a full Warlord class, I'm very happy with this.

Trust me, I would go kill Tar-Baphon by myself for an actual honest-to-Artemis Warlord Class. Especially if I got to design it. ^_^ Until then, though, I hope what you find here will be to your liking!

keftiu wrote:

Can we hear the chapter titles?

Chapter 1: Introduction

Chapter 2: Among the Knights
Chapter 3: Knights of Lastwall Options
Chapter 4: Knights of Lastwall Efforts

That's kind of boring though, so why not the headers for each of the sections, too!

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I want you to know that this specific post is what finally broke the camel's back and got me to sub to the LO line. I LOVE the Knights of Lastwall and was really tempted to sub just to get the book early. Now not only do I NEED to get it early (I hope I get lucky and end up towards the front of the line lol) but I also need it physical now too!

Please Paizo, hire Isabelle to make an awesome Warlord class.

I will give monies for that.

When will there be more information on this similar to how Book of the Dead has had information given out.

I am almost more excited for this than Book of the Dead.

When will there be more information on this similar to how Book of the Dead has had information given out.

I am almost more excited for this than Book of the Dead.

Book of the Dead isn't even out yet; they try to hype each thing in its own time.

That said, there's significantly less to spoil in a Lost Omens book than there is a rulebook release.

Please Paizo, hire Isabelle to make an awesome Warlord class.

I will give monies for that.

Agreed. Take all of my mons.

Just to clarify, this doesn't provide new archetypes. Instead, it provides new feats for existing archetypes that are good fits for Knights of Lastwall like bastion and marshal.

Did Sentinel get some ? Just kidding :-D

My inner GM cries because options bloat.

My inner powergamer screams MOAR.

And now you got me interested in this book.

Luis Loza wrote:

Just to clarify, this doesn't provide new archetypes. Instead, it provides new feats for existing archetypes that are good fits for Knights of Lastwall like bastion and marshal.

Did Sentinel get some ? Just kidding :-D

My inner GM cries because options bloat.

My inner powergamer screams MOAR.

And now you got me interested in this book.

Expanding old archetypes instead of creating new ones feels like it would counteract bloat.

The Raven Black wrote:

Luis Loza wrote:

Just to clarify, this doesn't provide new archetypes. Instead, it provides new feats for existing archetypes that are good fits for Knights of Lastwall like bastion and marshal.

Did Sentinel get some ? Just kidding :-D

My inner GM cries because options bloat.

My inner powergamer screams MOAR.

And now you got me interested in this book.

Expanding old archetypes instead of creating new ones feels like it would counteract bloat.

Actually, I feel these 2 archetypes did not really need the boost of new options compared to other less powerful archetypes.

Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:

When will there be more information on this similar to how Book of the Dead has had information given out.

I am almost more excited for this than Book of the Dead.

Book of the Dead isn't even out yet; they try to hype each thing in its own time.

That said, there's significantly less to spoil in a Lost Omens book than there is a rulebook release.

Signpost: These product pages now include spoilers for the back cover text, masthead, and detailed table of contents. Art will be showcased on Paizo LIVE in April, if not sooner.

Does Ragathiel and his church have a mention in this book?

I would be surprised if they didn't.

Why can't I subscribe to this?

Why can't I subscribe to this?

You should be able to soon. We have to manually update that. Thanks for pointing it out. I will reply when you can.

The Purity of Violence wrote:

Why can't I subscribe to this?

You should be able to soon. We have to manually update that. Thanks for pointing it out. I will reply when you can.

Updated. Now you can.

cavernshark wrote:

Xethik wrote:

cavernshark wrote:

Luis Loza wrote:

Other Archetypes - 80

Such a tease. Can we open that door some more?

It's only two to three pages for plural archetypes, so I wouldn't get toooo excited about there being a lot to reveal there.

You're underestimating my appetite for those pages. And making my argument for me! What's 1-3 archetype names between friends?

Just to clarify, this doesn't provide new archetypes. Instead, it provides new feats for existing archetypes that are good fits for Knights of Lastwall like bastion and marshal.

I'm glad to see you guys going in this direction, core archetypes getting further support like this is really compelling.

Sporkedup wrote:

Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:

As far as we know has this been delayed?

No word so far. It's probably still too early to delay it if they haven't received it yet, so I would expect it to be on time unless they mention next month if it's being held up too.

Too early to know. We don't expect it until late March for a late April release. We don't let things sit in the warehouse. They come in and we turn them around to international distributors. Normally. ;)

Delayed until late May, I see.

Sad news.

:(

Wonder if we'll start hearing more about this soon. I'd love a peek inside!

I'm not sure why I didn't realize this was delayed.

Wonder if we'll start hearing more about this soon. I'd love a peek inside!

Of course. We are working on blogs, exclusive previews, interviews, non-exclusive previews, and reviews for Starfinder Drift Crisis and Pathfinder Knights of Lastwall, just as we are doing for Pathfinder Book of the Dead and the launch of new Starfinder Society Year. Also Paizo LIVE and PaizoCon. Thank you, kindly.

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Do you know if we'll have stats and info on Veena Heliu as well as Keyron Saiville and Ren Dendarvi?

Wait, is this the Ryan Costello from Know Direction?

Yup, that's him!

Didn't think he was into second edition at all.

Didn't think he was into second edition at all.

And people wonder why I'm so pedantic and insistent when I try to squash this completely wrong take on my opinion of Pathfinder 2e, a game I still play despite not even hosting a Pathfinder podcast anymore.

Eleanor was on Deadly D8 recently to talk about LO Knights of Lastwall (among other things).

Some highlights, some of which might have been known already:

It will be good to see some new stuff for the marshal, but I hope in the future we will see full warlord/commander/marshal/tactician class anyways

Didn't think he was into second edition at all.

No, you've known; multiple users have informed you of the fact, such as in this post from May 2021, in addition to your own admittals that your understanding is obsolete. Here's just one of his blog posts that dive into things he loves about 2e:

The action economy, obviously, but it really needs to be considered how good that is. There’s a reason 2e works better than 1e with three actions house ruled in. This is the foundation on which a great game was built. It makes thinking about your turn much easier, because you aren’t juggling as much between the concept of what you want to do and the mechanics of making it happen. [...]

Confining characters to three actions at all levels also helps with higher level play. As a fan of martial characters, 1e made any turn that I couldn’t stand still and full attack feel like a punishment. The higher the level, the more you lost not squatting. Being able to move and still attack twice, or more twice as far and still get an attack, adds dynamism and complexity to a martial’s turn.
Moreover, I like 2e spellcasters. The oracle specifically is a class I’ve played in both editions, and while I struggled with the experience in 1e, I love it in 2e. Similarly, the 1e paladin was never a class I paid much attention to, but as you’ll see in the new KD Adventure Series – Trouble In Otari Part 1, the champion’s focus spells give the class a lot of flavourful flexibility. There’s no combat in episode 1, but in later episodes you’ll see me mix up casting and fighting in such a satisfying way.

Now please stop harassing this man with false claims.

Thomas Keller wrote:

Didn't think he was into second edition at all.

No, you've known; multiple users have informed you of the fact, such as in this post from May 2021, in addition to your own admittals that your understanding is obsolete. Here's just one of his blog posts that dive into things he loves about 2e:

Ryan Costello wrote:

The action economy, obviously, but it really needs to be considered how good that is. There’s a reason 2e works better than 1e with three actions house ruled in. This is the foundation on which a great game was built. It makes thinking about your turn much easier, because you aren’t juggling as much between the concept of what you want to do and the mechanics of making it happen. [...]

Confining characters to three actions at all levels also helps with higher level play. As a fan of martial characters, 1e made any turn that I couldn’t stand still and full attack feel like a punishment. The higher the level, the more you lost not squatting. Being able to move and still attack twice, or more twice as far and still get an attack, adds dynamism and complexity to a martial’s turn.
Moreover, I like 2e spellcasters. The oracle specifically is a class I’ve played in both editions, and while I struggled with the experience in 1e, I love it in 2e. Similarly, the 1e paladin was never a class I paid much attention to, but as you’ll see in the new KD Adventure Series – Trouble In Otari Part 1, the champion’s focus spells give the class a lot of flavourful flexibility. There’s no combat in episode 1, but in later episodes you’ll see me mix up casting and fighting in such a satisfying way.

Now please stop harassing this man with false claims.

I don't really think it's harrassing to forget a post from a year ago.