Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Inner Sea Faiths (PFRPG)

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Across the Inner Sea region, few things are as ubiquitous as faith and religion. However, among the myriad nations and cultures, worship and devotion isn't limited to only the area's most widely acknowledged deities. Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Inner Sea Faiths sheds light on 15 lesser-known deities who nonetheless offer great power to their followers, granting spiritual might to any characters willing to offer devotion. Inside this book you'll find details about these gods' histories, dogmas, and practices, all designed to enrich your campaigns with divine lore, including:

  • In-depth articles about the Inner Sea region's more esoteric divinities, from Achaekek, god of divine punishment and patron of the deadly Red Mantis assassins, to Besmara, the lusty queen of pirates and tamer of the fierce beasts that dwell beneath the waves, to Milani, vehement enemy of tyranny and slavery, to Naderi, goddess of romantic tragedy and forbidden love.
  • Guidance on how to play an adventurer or create an NPC devoted to a particular god, including the clothing, texts, and holidays sacred to the faithful, as well as aphorisms common among their ranks.
  • Obediences and boons that can empower all worshipers of each divinity, especially those with levels in prestige classes devoted to their faith.
  • Details about each divinity's standing in the Great Beyond, as well as a look into the gods' personal extraplanar realms.
  • Insight into the fascinating creatures that serve each divinity, including the unique astral deva who heralds Kurgess, the Strong Man, and the veiled trumpet archon who heralds Sivanah, the Seventh Veil.

Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Inner Sea Faiths is intended for use with the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game and Pathfinder campaign setting, but can easily be adapted to any fantasy world.

ISBN-13: 978-1-60125-825-0

Note: Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Inner Sea Faiths is an extra-large volume, totalling 96-pages rather than the standard 64-page format.

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Great follow-up to Inner Sea Gods

*****

Read my full review on Of Dice and Pen.

I love this book just as much as I love Inner Sea Gods, and it has seen a lot of use in my games. It is full of evocative and flavourful information that can form the basis of all kinds of characters and adventures. I particularly like that it uses its full space for this information and doesn’t feel the need to include numerous new feats and spells. I now have ideas for about fifteen new campaigns that I will probably never have time to run, but it’s fun to have the ideas anyway!


A Great Addition

*****

While the book is basically Inner Sea Gods: Part 2, I'd argue it is an even better addition to the system. While Inner Sea Gods updated the old AP articles and put them in one place for people to find, this book serves to breath life into many of the minor deities of the Inner Sea that hadn't gotten one before.

Honestly, it has given me more ideas for characters, villains, and adventures than anything I can recently recall. Whether you are more often a player or GM, if you find deities and religions at all compelling I'd say this is the #1 campaign setting book you should pick up this year.


Please, sir, may I have some more?

****( )

I want to add my voice to the other positive reviews. Inner Sea Gods is also my favorite book that Paizo has published. ISF is a good book, but it is not as great as ISG. That may be due to constraints of length or other factors to which I am not privy.

I'm writing this review because I have read that these reviews help the developers know what to develop. I would very much like to see the deities and their cults receive more attention and more detail, so here we go.

The Good:

The lore this book contains is, without a doubt, the best part. If you don't care about the origins and motivations of deities and those who follow them, buy a different book. ISF, got me excited about deities like Besmara who I never before found interesting, while also giving me rich details about deities I already found interesting. Her section made me want to be a pirate. I think that's the highest praise that I can give as a consumer. The author(s?) of that section painted a vivid enough picture that a new perspective became compelling.

The Bad:

Some of the Obediences could have been better fleshed out. The best Obediences give you at least two options on how to appease your god: one needs to be something you don't need other people or specific locations. Some of these did not. Nobody wants their divine powers turned off because they couldn't find find someone to whom they could brag or whom they could bully.

Some of the Boons evoked the "who would want that?" (which may be a failure of my imagination and not the design) or "why is that so bad?" (Seriously, Mahathallah has better illusionists than Sivanah. Does that seem right to anyone?) Also, if you give a boon that effects Channel Energy, then let Exalted levels stack with Cleric levels for that ability. Let Sarenrae's exalted boon be your guide. If you don't, them you make that boon suck for your Exalted and unlikely to ever come up if you go straight cleric given how late access boons are without the appropriate prestige classes.

However many of the other Boons were good. (Besmara lets her evangelists summon sea monsters she has bullied and even coerce people themselves with her divine charisma. How cool is that?)

Some alignment appropriate deities did not have paladin or anti-paladin codes. Ghaulander is CE and is a god of disease. There is no doubt in my mind that he has anti-paladins and that they have specific beliefs. One of my favorite parts of ISG was the alternate paladin codes. Paladins have codes tailored to their patron makes so much sense, and makes them much more fun to play. You guys struck gold with that innovation. Keep mining it.

There were some editing and grammar errors, but it only confused or annoyed me a couple of times. It's only a minor complaint.

The Odd:

Achaeckek is now a full god (with 5 Domains) rather than a demigod. It seems a bad call on the pantheon's part to let him get bigger than a demigod. He is an assassin after all. :-p

What Improvements I Would Like:

ISG was so great because it gave feats and spells specific to each religion. This book could have greatly benefitted from such additions along with the missing Heralds. I know some of these gods got feats in ISG, but I want more. I understand that there might have been space constraints. I would have paid more. If this book had been ISG Volume 2, I would be giving it 5 stars, and want to give it 6. Seriously, I would be grateful to have the honor of giving you $10 more.

TL;DNR?

Consumers: buy this book for the excellent lore, but temper your expectations: many of the boons are either not as cool or not as thematic as they were in ISG.

Developers: please make more books in this vein, but more in the style of ISG. ISG seemed to sell well. You guys have a market here. Please exploit it and take our money. It's not like you don't have more gods to detail.


Inner Sea Gods Minus A Star

****( )

Honestly, how much you will like/use this book depends on the mileage you got out of Inner Sea Gods.
Take whatever rating you would put Inner Sea Gods and subtract a single star: That is the rating of this book.
I LOVE ISG, so this book is still of great value to me.
However, it falls a bit short of it's predecessor.

Why's that?
Each minor god get's the ISG treatment, but only to a degree.
*We open up with a Deific Obedience and some boons, all of which are flavorful but many of which are near impossible to complete regularly (Good luck finding two unblemished white roses and a nearby stream every day you adventure).
*We then get a sidebar about the god, paladin and antipaladin codes for the god, but oddly not for every god that could have paladins/antipaladins (What makes an antipaladin of Ghlaunder special?).
*The next portion is fairly straitforward:
Understanding the God, the Church, Temples and Shrines, *picture of a worshiper*,a Priest's Role, Adventures, Clothing, Holy Text, *Picture of the deity*, Holidays, Aphorisms, Relations with Other Religeons, Realm, Planar Allies. Nothing too odd.
*Variant casting abilities for the faithful are mentioned at the tail end of A Priest's Role, except for the dragon gods, who have none mentioned.
*Heralds for those who have been printed in Adventure Paths (Brigh, Milani, Besmara, Zyphus) are referenced to the appropriate AP; other heralds are described but not stated.
*The sidebars from ISG about deity appropriate spells, items, feats, etc is completely absent.
*Mechanical resources beyond Deific Obedience are also absent; players looking for faith specific magic items will need to dig through ISG (though it looks like each minor god does get at least one magic item there) and conjurists looking to invoke their god's servitor race or herald will need to work with their GM more than Core Deities.
These points all drag down the overall usefulness of the book.

That said, this book DOES provide some wonderful background information of each minor god.
no longer will we be tormented with figuring out just what to call followers of Zyphus (the answer is Zyphens).
Dahak is fleshed out into something other than a draconic parody of Rovagug.
The mysterious Alseta and Naderi are finally unveiled! (The mysterious Sivanah is still mysterious. That's her shtick).

Oh, and Achaekek assassinates another building...


Great Info on More Deities

*****

Inner Sea Gods is perhaps my favorite campaign setting book for Pathfinder, so seeing several of the "lesser" deities get the same treatment in Inner Sea Faiths was very exciting for me. The book contains deific obediences and evangelist/exalted/sentinel boons for each of 15 deities, and aside from that, the book contains pure setting info for the gods. I do like deity-specific items and spells, but I was more excited to see information about the history and worship of these deities. Alseta and Naderi were the ones I was most interested in, but I was also excited to see more about Achaekek, Sivanah, Hanspur, and Groetus. There's at least one deity of every alignment, so there should be something for a variety of play choices.


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Announced! Cover image is a mockup and subject to change.


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Nice a book about all of the minor deities and their Obedience!


Woot! Looking forward to this book and hopefully more Besmara info.


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Will we learn more about the elusive Peacock Spirit?


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Looks good.

Dark Archive

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So essentially this is the same as INNER SEA GODS only for the lesser known deities like
Achaekek
Alseta
Besmara
Brigh
Ghlaunder
Groetus
Gyronna
Hanspur
Kurgess
Milani
Naderi
Sivanah
Zyphus
and two others (probably Droskar, Apsu or Dahak)!?


Getting Apsu and Dahak would be great (and incredibly handy for any Triaxus-related adventures/campaigns).

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Zaister wrote:
Will we learn more about the elusive Peacock Spirit?

No. This book focuses pretty much only on the deities listed on pages 175–181 of Inner Sea Gods, plus Apsu and Dahak.

Silver Crusade

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Besmara, Milani, Groetus, sold.

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yessssssssss :D

Especially looking forward to more on Naderi. And Alseta, if only because so little is known about her...

Sovereign Court

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Will the sections on Brigh, Zyphus, and Milani be significantly different from their sections in Reign of Winter, Iron Gods,and the Hell's Rebels Player's Guide?

(Same for Groetus/Besmara, except that they've never had Obediences before.)


Sweet, excited to see more on Hanspur and Zyphus.


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James Jacobs wrote:
Zaister wrote:
Will we learn more about the elusive Peacock Spirit?
No. This book focuses pretty much only on the deities listed on pages 175–181 of Inner Sea Gods, plus Apsu and Dahak.

Too bad, but thanks for the information!

Editor-in-Chief

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Kalindlara wrote:

Will the sections on Brigh, Zyphus, and Milani be significantly different from their sections in Reign of Winter, Iron Gods,and the Hell's Rebels Player's Guide?

(Same for Groetus/Besmara, except that they've never had Obediences before.)

There will be revisions, but we've had no reason to do overhauls on any of the deities you've mentioned.

Sovereign Court

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F. Wesley Schneider wrote:
Kalindlara wrote:

Will the sections on Brigh, Zyphus, and Milani be significantly different from their sections in Reign of Winter, Iron Gods,and the Hell's Rebels Player's Guide?

(Same for Groetus/Besmara, except that they've never had Obediences before.)

There will be revisions, but we've had no reason to do overhauls on any of the deities you've mentioned.

I see. Thank you! ^_^

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Also, this is the first time we've ever experimented with a 96-page campaign setting.

We're very interested in hearing what people think about the format, price, and size.

Editor-in-Chief

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In related news, this will be Amanda Hamon-Kunz's first Paizo project as development lead from start to finish.

Look forward to previews and (probably a few discrete spoilers) from her in the lead-up to this book's release.

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Discrete, or discreet? ^_^

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I, for one, welcome the new 96-page format and grudgingly bear the small price hike. The Campaign Setting line always felt like it could use some more horizontal dead tree space.

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NAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEERRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!

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Rysky wrote:
NAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEERRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!

same

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And now we're gonna have Obediences! Ooooo my "Earn your happy ending!" characters are gonna love this :3


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Interesting.


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96 pages! Woot!


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Ha, HA! Yes, finally I will be hearing of the mighty Kurgess!


Now I find something else to look forward to. I'm getting this one just for the info on Kurgess, Gyronna, Hanspur, and Zyphus.


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Interesting.
Looking forward to more info on Achaekek, Alseta and Besmara for my PFS gaming...

-TimD

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Kalindlara wrote:
Rysky wrote:
NAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEERRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!
same

Folks might also be interested to know that Naderi is one of the deities in this book with tight ties to some of the core deities, particularly Shelyn, as we've mentioned in Inner Sea Gods, but not limited to the Eternal Rose. We'll be exploring those divine relationships as well as the relationships that tend to manifest among the different deities' followers as a result.

In general, if your character worships one of the deities in this book, you'll get a good idea of how that character would see himself or herself in the context of the Inner Sea's other major religions. And minor religions, as applicable.


F. Wesley Schneider wrote:

Also, this is the first time we've ever experimented with a 96-page campaign setting.

We're very interested in hearing what people think about the format, price, and size.

Since this book will be 96 pages, will we still be seeing a Player's Companion book for March? I only ask since no new player companion book was announced along with the other products.

Silver Crusade

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Amanda Hamon Kunz wrote:
Kalindlara wrote:
Rysky wrote:
NAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEERRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!
same

Folks might also be interested to know that Naderi is one of the deities in this book with tight ties to some of the core deities, particularly Shelyn, as we've mentioned in Inner Sea Gods, but not limited to the Eternal Rose. We'll be exploring those divine relationships as well as the relationships that tend to manifest among the different deities' followers as a result.

In general, if your character worships one of the deities in this book, you'll get a good idea of how that character would see himself or herself in the context of the Inner Sea's other major religions. And minor religions, as applicable.

Sweet!


Groetus ???.....SOLD !!!

But PLEASE come up with a good Oracle Mystery and curse for his Oracles !!!!

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nighttree wrote:

Groetus ???.....SOLD !!!

But PLEASE come up with a good Oracle Mystery and curse for his Oracles !!!!

That's kinda beyond the scope of this book, alas.


Y'all always have me sold on religion books :DDD


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So will Razmir finally get his time to shine?

Sovereign Court

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Amanda Hamon Kunz wrote:
Kalindlara wrote:
Rysky wrote:
NAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEERRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!
same

Folks might also be interested to know that Naderi is one of the deities in this book with tight ties to some of the core deities, particularly Shelyn, as we've mentioned in Inner Sea Gods, but not limited to the Eternal Rose. We'll be exploring those divine relationships as well as the relationships that tend to manifest among the different deities' followers as a result.

In general, if your character worships one of the deities in this book, you'll get a good idea of how that character would see himself or herself in the context of the Inner Sea's other major religions. And minor religions, as applicable.

I knew that she was also being courted by Urgathoa and Zyphus. I'm looking forward to seeing how this all develops!


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Razmiri Priest wrote:
So will Razmir finally get his time to shine?

No


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James Jacobs wrote:
nighttree wrote:

Groetus ???.....SOLD !!!

But PLEASE come up with a good Oracle Mystery and curse for his Oracles !!!!

That's kinda beyond the scope of this book, alas.

In terms of a mystery, I would suggest the Apocalypse Mystery in the Fire Giants section of the Monster Codex.

Here :)

the curse doesn't need to be anything in particular.

Silver Crusade

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Awesome product.

Zyphus needs some updating due to some lore issues that caused controversy when he was introduced in the AP line.

Sovereign Court

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DM_aka_Dudemeister wrote:

Awesome product.

Zyphus needs some updating due to some lore issues that caused controversy when he was introduced in the AP line.

?

Silver Crusade

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Kalindlara wrote:
DM_aka_Dudemeister wrote:

Awesome product.

Zyphus needs some updating due to some lore issues that caused controversy when he was introduced in the AP line.

?

The article in question I believe named him the god over abortions... yeah...


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DM_aka_Dudemeister wrote:

Awesome product.

Zyphus needs some updating due to some lore issues that caused controversy when he was introduced in the AP line.

What Controversy? *picking up Iron Gods and looking at Zyphus article*


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Rysky wrote:
Kalindlara wrote:
DM_aka_Dudemeister wrote:

Awesome product.

Zyphus needs some updating due to some lore issues that caused controversy when he was introduced in the AP line.

?
The article in question I believe named him the god over abortions... yeah...

oh. not good.

Paizo Employee Publisher, Chief Creative Officer

Starglyte wrote:
F. Wesley Schneider wrote:

Also, this is the first time we've ever experimented with a 96-page campaign setting.

We're very interested in hearing what people think about the format, price, and size.

Since this book will be 96 pages, will we still be seeing a Player's Companion book for March? I only ask since no new player companion book was announced along with the other products.

Nope. We're skipping March in the Player Companion as a trade-off for this book, essentially.

It's an experiment!

Sovereign Court

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Oh good, less Player Companions! Thank you!

Not sarcastic. That line has been feeling very rushed and reaching-for-ideas at times, despite Owen's excellent work. I love the line enough to own every one, but... I felt like it was burning itself out. ^_^

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Player Companions should go bimonthly with 64 pages and alternate with 96 page Campaign Setting books. Owen is doing arguably amazing job with the line and recent books such as the incredibly amazeballs Dirty Tactics Toolbox and Monster Summoner Handbook spark the question of what could Owen do given more horizontal dead tree space.

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Looks like a buy from me - I've always been interested in some of the "less advertised" deities, especially Besmara, Milani (who both already have articles), and Naderi (who is was a psychopomp Usher previous, in my head-canon). Hanspur may be interesting, as well.

I wish a couple of the Tian Xia gods could get in, but unlikely given it's the Inner Sea.

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DeciusNero wrote:
I wish a couple of the Tian Xia gods could get in, but unlikely given it's the Inner Sea.

Oooo I wouldn't mind an Outer Sea (is that a thing?) Gods hardcover that goes over the other pantheons like Tian Xia and Osirian (Obedience for Sekhmet PLZ and THANKIES)

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Fantastic news. I for one am more than willing to pay for a bigger book. Hope that becomes the norm in the future.


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Gorbacz wrote:

Player Companions should go bimonthly with 64 pages and alternate with 96 page Campaign Setting books. Owen is doing arguably amazing job with the line and recent books such as the incredibly amazeballs Dirty Tactics Toolbox and Monster Summoner Handbook spark the question of what could Owen do given more horizontal dead tree space.

I concur on all accounts. At the least I think bi-minthly pcs would be good.


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Rysky wrote:
Oooo I wouldn't mind an Outer Sea (is that a thing?) Gods hardcover that goes over the other pantheons like Tian Xia and Osirian (Obedience for Sekhmet PLZ and THANKIES)

Osirion's in the Inner Sea region, but I feel this. Faiths of Distant Shores, maybe?

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