zergtitan |
Sorry to hear your disinterest in this AP Turin22, I hope when they announce the AP after this one it will be more to your interests. (If I remember correctly Paizo tries to do one AP normal and one AP experimental each year, so the next one should be more sword & sorcery for you.) :)
Adam Daigle Developer |
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Sorry to hear your disinterest in this AP Turin22, I hope when they announce the AP after this one it will be more to your interests. (If I remember correctly Paizo tries to do one AP normal and one AP experimental each year, so the next one should be more sword & sorcery for you.) :)
That was the case at one point, but we haven't stuck super close to that in recent years. I will say that after Iron Gods we have something that will hopefully satisfy people looking for something more traditional fantasy.
Nate Z |
So I have to ask at this point...is it some sort of contract or something that Wayne Reynolds does the covers for the summer APs? Don't get me wrong, I love his work and will be right clicking when this appears on the Facebooks, but he's literally done every other AP since Jade Regent. I guess I'd just like more variety.
In any case: EEEEE!!! Iconic Gunslinger who's name I never remember how to spell even though she's probably my favorite features in the AP I'm most excited since I became a fan of the line!!!!!! :D
EDIT: Lirianne!
Neongelion |
zergtitan wrote:Sorry to hear your disinterest in this AP Turin22, I hope when they announce the AP after this one it will be more to your interests. (If I remember correctly Paizo tries to do one AP normal and one AP experimental each year, so the next one should be more sword & sorcery for you.) :)That was the case at one point, but we haven't stuck super close to that in recent years. I will say that after Iron Gods we have something that will hopefully satisfy people looking for something more traditional fantasy.
PLEASE not set in Varisia! That's about as standard fantasy as you can get.
mach1.9pants |
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"Every time a "D&D" RPG comes at a certain point, it answers with introducing Tech, and that's usually close to the end of it. Dark Sun/Spelljammer AD&D, Eberron D&D ..."
Not quite, for example Original D&D Vol 2 Monsters & Treasure mentions Robots and Androids. Sci Fi has been in from the beginning as, when D&D started, there was no Sci Fi - Fantasy split, it was all just fantasy.
However I am not a big fan of overt Sci Fi in my fantasy, but my kids who I game with love it. They also don't have an internal Sci Fi/Fantasy divide in their heads yet, just pure imagination.
Oceanshieldwolf |
And big ups for the cover, though the heroic vegepygmies seem to beysteriously hidden and obscured and strangely not the main focus of the picture... I like the darkness of them, is that shadow or are they...different?
Anyhoo, love the iconic figure (rocking skin tech-etching and uber-sidearm!), Damiel is channeling my favorite "X-man" Shatterstar and just because he is with his three female friends doesn't immediately make them his harem...
Love the dark cover color too.
Iron Gods!!!!
Cthulhudrew |
And big ups for the cover, though the heroic vegepygmies seem to beysteriously hidden and obscured and strangely not the main focus of the picture... I like the darkness of them, is that shadow or are they...different?
Could be- it looks like they're in some kind of laboratory. Maybe these are mutant vegepygmies?
Evil Midnight Lurker |
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The very first adventure ever published for Dungeons and Dragons involved infiltrating an evil temple that had been taken over by high-tech space aliens.
Arguments that science fiction has no place in D&D, or that the introduction of tech spells the end of an edition/product line, are simply, provably wrong.
Auxmaulous |
Oceanshieldwolf wrote:And big ups for the cover, though the heroic vegepygmies seem to beysteriously hidden and obscured and strangely not the main focus of the picture... I like the darkness of them, is that shadow or are they...different?Could be- it looks like they're in some kind of laboratory. Maybe these are mutant vegepygmies?
Well, the original vegepygmies on has their genesis on the crashed starship in S3 - Possibly the fires of creation could be a type of lab and the source of vegepygmies on Golarion?
It's possible that the vegepymies came about as a byproduct of engineering life or part of the process of creating other biomechanical organisms?
Just guesses at this point. I would assume a lab generating life.
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I am a big fan of Horror, Fantasy and Science Fiction. In everything I do I combine these three elements as much as possible. Traditional fantasy is getting more and more boring for me. I will not have anything to do a zombie or any other type of undead centered property as I prefer Lovecraft flavored horror or splatter punk style stories. Spelljammer, Eberron and Dark Sun are my top three favorite campaign settings for D&D with Ravenloft occupying the #4 spot on that list and probably Iron Kingdoms after that. A heads up to all 3rd Party companies. I can only speak for myself but I will find a way to purchase material supporting this AP. Heck, I'm probably going to go the extra mile and find some way to shoehorn Mythic into this. I did not finish Wrath of the Righteous, I only bought the appetizer entries for Mummy's Mask with no intention of going much further with that AP. But this AP is where my interests lay. This is what I want as a GM to run and as a player this is what I most want to play.
Oceanshieldwolf |
I am a big fan of Horror, Fantasy and Science Fiction. In everything I do I combine these three elements as much as possible. Traditional fantasy is getting more and more boring for me. I will not have anything to do a zombie or any other type of undead centered property as I prefer Lovecraft flavored horror or splatter punk style stories. Spelljammer, Eberron and Dark Sun are my top three favorite campaign settings for D&D with Ravenloft occupying the #4 spot on that list and probably Iron Kingdoms after that. A heads up to all 3rd Party companies. I can only speak for myself but I will find a way to purchase material supporting this AP. Heck, I'm probably going to go the extra mile and find some way to shoehorn Mythic into this. I did not finish Wrath of the Righteous, I only bought the appetizer entries for Mummy's Mask with no intention of going much further with that AP. But this AP is where my interests lay. This is what I want as a GM to run and as a player this is what I most want to play.
[Emphasis mine] Yup. I'm already looking forward to Legendary Games plug ins…
IRON GODS
Haladir |
Vegepygmies on the cover!
A throwback to the 1980 AD&D adventure Expedition to the Barrier Peaks, which first introduced them to the game!
On another note... will Space Amiri appear in this AP?
James Jacobs Creative Director |
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Vegepygmies on the cover!
A throwback to the 1980 AD&D adventure Expedition to the Barrier Peaks, which first introduced them to the game!
On another note... will Space Amiri appear in this AP?
Nope; Space Amiri isn't part of this AP.
She won't use her sword for much longer though...
zergtitan |
Haladir wrote:Vegepygmies on the cover!
A throwback to the 1980 AD&D adventure Expedition to the Barrier Peaks, which first introduced them to the game!
On another note... will Space Amiri appear in this AP?
Nope; Space Amiri isn't part of this AP.
She won't use her sword for much longer though...
Can't wait to see the next cover! :)
Nick O'Connell |
Haladir wrote:Vegepygmies on the cover!
A throwback to the 1980 AD&D adventure Expedition to the Barrier Peaks, which first introduced them to the game!
On another note... will Space Amiri appear in this AP?
Nope; Space Amiri isn't part of this AP.
She won't use her sword for much longer though...
Does that mean the iconics will be shown using space technology?
Cthulhudrew |
Does that mean the iconics will be shown using space technology?
One already is on the cover of this issue (Lirianne), as well as on the cover of the Technology Guide. (Again, Lirianne. Between the Iron Gods AP and the picture of her and Alain in Rasputin Must Die! it seems like she gets all the wonderful toys.)
Adam Daigle Developer |
Adam Daigle Developer |
Adam Daigle Developer |
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And....
I apologize for firing off this off-topic tangent.
... Steers...
I've made it a goal to include at least one robot and one alien creature among the four to five monsters that appear in each volume. There are some fun creatures coming down the line in the months following the release of this Adventure Path volume.
James Jacobs Creative Director |
James Jacobs wrote:Does that mean the iconics will be shown using space technology?Haladir wrote:Vegepygmies on the cover!
A throwback to the 1980 AD&D adventure Expedition to the Barrier Peaks, which first introduced them to the game!
On another note... will Space Amiri appear in this AP?
Nope; Space Amiri isn't part of this AP.
She won't use her sword for much longer though...
For Iron Gods? Yes. We're already showing that, in fact; note the weapon the gunslinger's using on the cover of "Fires of Creation."
Nick O'Connell |
Nick O'Connell wrote:For Iron Gods? Yes. We're already showing that, in fact; note the weapon the gunslinger's using on the cover of "Fires of Creation."James Jacobs wrote:Does that mean the iconics will be shown using space technology?Haladir wrote:Vegepygmies on the cover!
A throwback to the 1980 AD&D adventure Expedition to the Barrier Peaks, which first introduced them to the game!
On another note... will Space Amiri appear in this AP?
Nope; Space Amiri isn't part of this AP.
She won't use her sword for much longer though...
Nice:)
Haladir |
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I do not want Tech in my Fantasy World - and the only way to not be pestered by in for half a year in my mailbox is to stop my subscription!
A different setting for this and I would have just shrugged it off and kept going. But I fear more plots being twisted the Sci-Fi way from now on and I won't support that.
I completely respect your opinion on this, but I do want to address couple of points...
1) Blending sci-fi and fantasy elements has been a part of the genre pretty much since the beginning. Borroughs' John Carter of Mars series. Doc Smith's Lensman. Cherryh's Chronicles of Morgaine. McCaffrey's Dragonriders of Pern. Leiber's Fafhrd & the Grey Mouser series. Vance's Dying Earth. Star Wars. Heavy Metal magazine. Bakshi's Wizards. Gygax' Expedition to the Barrier Peaks.
2) Golarion may be a "kitchen sink" game world, but part of the charm is that it's modular. Don't want scisf elements? Don't ever send your PCs to Numeria. The individual areas don't really interact much unless the GM wants them to.
But I totally understand if you want to pass on this AP and its supporting materials. I'm not a huge fan of Asian flavored adventuring, so I don't allow the Asian-themed classes at my table. I waited until Jade Regent was over to start my AP subscription.
Good luck, and hope to see you on the boards!
James Jacobs Creative Director |
Rysky |
Oxades Moronacus |
Haladir wrote:Vegepygmies on the cover!
A throwback to the 1980 AD&D adventure Expedition to the Barrier Peaks, which first introduced them to the game!
On another note... will Space Amiri appear in this AP?
Nope; Space Amiri isn't part of this AP.
She won't use her sword for much longer though...
Does this imply that Amiri will find Thundarr’s Sunsword? I want the Sunsword!
xobmaps |
...note the weapon the gunslinger's using on the cover of "Fires of Creation."
Drats, I was just about to ask if anyone else noticed Lirianne had a crystal laser gun in volume ONE, but was ninja'd by James Jacobs just a few hours ago.
This may well be the first adventure I allow gunslingers in when I run it (not if, I WILL run this eventually), since I have never wanted to retool an adventure to have appropriate loot for the class.
Oh, and while I am thinking about it: WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT.
This and WotR are why I subscribed.
James Jacobs Creative Director |